moore_94 Posted 21 August 2025 Author Posted 21 August 2025 1 minute ago, funkyrobot said: Think they are in about a pay per play deal for fans. You have to have a full kit, your own boots and pay them £2k for the privilege. The only criteria is your kit can’t be a snide DH Gate version. I would be tempted if only to two foot a couple of our own players 2 1
Ian Nacho Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. 2 2
LCFCCKEANO Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 (edited) McAteer is good and seems to be a great lad but for the money and pure profit it would make sense to sell him, Monga can play off both feet so could go either side and we have about 5 others who can play out wide. This is the sort of sale better ran clubs than ourselves do, get a nice sell on clause and replace with other resellable assets, have to imagine it would open a few more chances for someone like Alves who is marti has said will be more involved this season Edited 21 August 2025 by LCFCCKEANO
K789 Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 Just now, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. Thibk its more to do with the fact he's a lower level champ/upper level league 1 player. The away that spell 2 seasons ago and he's been absolutely pony 1
mozartfox Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 We are going to be left with Vesty, Faes, Winks, Skipp and Rudkin. What a great window. Bergovic the only incoming. If Carlsberg did transfer windows…….
Philkeavo Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 This is a heart v head moment. Heart says, average to good academy player who has always remained professional and worked hard for the team. Head says he is not as good as what we have in similar positions and is pure PSR profit. The sad dilemma is there are far worse disgustingly toxic players who are destroying the dressing room from within.
Clarkey123 Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 If it means we’re not forced to sell Abdul then it’s a no brainer. However, if we don’t plan to bring in any replacement then definitely keep.
adejo92 Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 16 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. No, because hes shit. 4
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 21 August 2025 Popular Post Posted 21 August 2025 4 minutes ago, brownboy93 said: Last time in the champo.. Fatawu : 43 apps 2,973 mins 7 Goals kasey (with a long injury) : 26 apps 1,307 mins 7 Goals stephy : 48 apps 3,718 mins 13 Goals I’d hate to play for our fans. So quick to be negative But in the same breath I’d probably sell him Now just for freshness and the psr crap That's fairly overly simplistic to be honest. Credit where it's due, McAteer managed 6 goals in about 12.9 lots of 90 minutes in the league, without taking penalties. That's not to be sniffed at for a wide player in his breakthrough season. It equates to 0.47 goals per 90 which is more than KDH and Mavididi. But you just can't ignore the sample size, Mavididi and Dewsbury Hall both scored double figures and started over 40 games each. It's also hard to ignore the cluster, with four of his goals coming in a four game period between match weeks 4 and 8 and him largely doing nothing else. He contributed 0 assists in the entire 23/24 season and wasn't even let down by bad finishers, he had an xA of 1 all year. This isn't surprising, given he managed less key passes per 90 minutes than Ndidi, Casadei, Ricky, Doyle, Marcal, Daka and Cannon as well as all the obvious suspects. He even made less passes in to the penalty area per 90 than Callum Doyle, a centre back in a short-passing system and less crosses per 90 than JJ and Wilf. Overall, his shot-creating actions per 90 minutes were more comparable to Hamza Choudhury than any attacking player. He came nowhere near Fatawu and Mavididi for succesful take-ons per 90 minutes, even ranking below Iheanacho (ouch.) His progressive carries and carried distance per 90 was below all other forwards with him managing roughly around half of what Fatawu and Mavididi managed, per game. In fact probably the only dribbling metric in which he ranked higher... he had more miscontrols per 90 than any other winger in the squad. I love Kasey's work rate, I love his aggression, I love that he's an academy product, but he's been dining out on one purple patch in September 2023 for his entire spell here. He's a League One player with a reasonably League One ceiling that we insanely turned down near 10m for. If he wasn't one of our own, he'd be the subject of incredible pelters, his combined goals and assists per 90 minutes in the Championship over 12 lots of 90 was 0.47. Patson Daka contributed 0.99 and was ridiculed as shit. Sell. 9 6
Blodge96 Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 20 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. I would say people are calling for him to be sold because he isn't good enough. PSR reasons is an added bonus. We've let far too many mediocre players run down contracts. McAteer is mediocre. 1
AKCJ Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 21 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. The main issue people have with PSR. Look at the reactions from Villa fans with Jacob Ramsey going to Newcastle. In an ideal world we'd keep him and he'd be here for years and years, he'd play here and there and would develop with us. But £5m-£10m goes down as pure profit and offers a lot of headroom. Difficult to turn that down when we're in a mess financially.
Fox85 Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 (edited) 31 minutes ago, moore_94 said: I would be tempted if only to two foot a couple of our own players Edited 21 August 2025 by Fox85
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 21 August 2025 Popular Post Posted 21 August 2025 25 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. I'd say the flip side of that is that if we weren't in such a mess, Kasey McAteer is exactly the sort of player we'd have sold years ago because selling your academy products is part of how you generate revenue in football. They clearly can't all make it and McAteer is a great example of one we should have sold to lower leagues for a couple of million because he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. But then Hamza is another one but instead of him playing X leagues below us, he has the ****ing armband 6
funkyrobot Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 17 minutes ago, mozartfox said: We are going to be left with Vesty, Faes, Winks, Skipp and Rudkin. What a great window. Bergovic the only incoming. If Carlsberg did transfer windows……. Don’t underestimate Rudkin, I could see him in a pair of boxfresh sondico, shorts at Cattermole height, possibly sporting a headband working his magic in the number 10 role.
kingfox Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 27 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. Take that side of things out of the equation and ask yourself this. Is Kasey McAteer good enough in 1 vs 1 situations? As Finners has also pointed out with those stats, the answer is a big hard no. There’s absolutely no point keeping McAteer when 1 vs 1 ability is one of his weak points.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 If we are not getting shafted in the deal, this is good business in principle. Kasey has been here for some time, and done ok. He isn’t a match winner. Our problem of hoarding players has left us with guys like Hamza in year 8, Iverson leaving on a free etc. Is Kasey McAteer going to be first choice this season - I hope not. Will this move bring in necessary head space and be beneficial for PSR. Yes.
FrankieADZ Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 if we could get 8/10mil for him id be all for it in all honesty, its all pure profit, and hes not going to be a starter by no means
Phenom Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 Similarly talented to Hamza (who we’ve kept too long). Definite sell if we get a decent offer.
RedSoxUK Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 29 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I'd say the flip side of that is that if we weren't in such a mess, Kasey McAteer is exactly the sort of player we'd have sold years ago because selling your academy products is part of how you generate revenue in football. They clearly can't all make it and McAteer is a great example of one we should have sold to lower leagues for a couple of million because he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad. But then Hamza is another one but instead of him playing X leagues below us, he has the ****ing armband Don't disagree with anything you've said above, but, keeping on to him hadls just opened a bid from Ipswich which is bound to be £8m + and not a few million. Likewise Ndidi we probably should have sent packing last season and we've taken £9m from him. Hamza could (maybe should have been gone on a free) and we could get offers up to £5m probably. And Thomas £3m + Think it pays to hold on to your academy assets a little bit longer till they've probably topped a price based on age / potential.
Finn Claw II Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 I think most of us on here would prefer to see the likes of Soumane, Skipp, Winks, BDR and even Hamza go before him but it’s much harder to get rid of your overpaid dross. I’d love to keep Kasey and sell the above but it isn’t going to happen. 1
DezFox Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 1 hour ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. We are a compete mess, to be fair hough this is the same at all clubs currently, a bi-product of PSR.
JimJams Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 1 hour ago, Ian Nacho said: Shows what mess the club is in when the majority are calling for a local lad to be sold just to raise some funds. Not due to his ability then?
HankMarvin Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 48 minutes ago, Finnegan said: It's also hard to ignore the cluster, with four of his goals coming in a four game period between match weeks 4 and 8 and him largely doing nothing else. Sounds familiar, yet it didn’t stop you banging the drum for Daka for a similar purple patch and not scoring in his final 6 starts of 23/34
Finnegan Posted 21 August 2025 Posted 21 August 2025 Just now, HankMarvin said: Sounds familiar, yet it didn’t stop you banging the drum for Daka for a similar purple patch and not scoring in his final 6 starts of 23/34 I've repeatedly said Daka's finishing from Elland Road onwards was awful and can't be excused. I've also repeatedly said we need a better striker this season and I hope he leaves. You probably need to work a little harder on your gotchas. 1
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