Cifuentes OUT

[Chelmofox]

14 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

I'm not sure if this is rhetorical but he has 5 goals in 7 games, 3 in 6 in the league

 

Had 11 in 1300 minutes last season 

 

I think if you put current Daka in the U21s he would get a quarter of that at best

Aware of Evans record last season.  Didn’t think it was as strong this one and he didn’t take his opportunities preseason for sure.
 

What about the Soumare question?

[studentofthegame]

5 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

The only argument I've heard for keeping him is that the issues run deeper than just his management. While that's definitely true, that's not really a reason to keep him. He's not what we need right now IMHO. 

Exactly!

 

If the argument is "because other things are shit" then that doesn't absolve him of the blame for his part on it

 

The manager is basically the only thing we can actually do something about right now, we can't sack the playing squad, top is never sacking Rudkin, sadly it takes time for an owner to **** off

 

So right now our only root to improving is to have a manager capable of squeezing something out of this team

[coolhandfox]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Agree. Our pressing and movement is not good.

Structure with and without the ball, patterns of play, set pieces.

 

Not one player has improved under him.

 

Talks a very good game, but thats about it.

[Chelmofox]

1 minute ago, TamuffFox said:

That's it...drop Vesty and Jakub but bring in BDCR!!! Ffs 

Actually, Vesty is a massive part of the problem and too many supporters are blind sided by it. He must be dropped. Ultra slow build up play gets us nowhere. We have literally built the team around Vestergaard. 
 

Bobby as a 10 makes sense until page comes back or Ramsey is fit. But it really highlights slim pickings right now. 

[studentofthegame]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

Aware of Evans record last season.  Didn’t think it was as strong this one and he didn’t take his opportunities preseason for sure.
 

What about the Soumare question?

I don't really know what your question was?

 

I already told you Skipp is a better player than Soumare, Soumare should never be stepping on the pitch for us again, he is a dreadful waste of space and worst of all he is a lazy dreadful waste of space

 

At least Skipp puts a bit of effort in and tries

 

Personally though I would play neither seen as James best position is deeper alongside Winks and he is being wasted out of position in the 10

[splinterdream]

7 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Doing the same thing over and over, gets you the same results. Change it up.

 

                         Begovic.

 

Ricardo.     Faes.      Nelson      Aluko

 

                   Winks.     James.

 Fatawu.            BDCR.              Monga

 

                        Mavididi

No offence, but you haven't really changed it up, you've swapped some players, and theres no evidence those players will make it better. Monga hasn't been great, Ricardo won't play Tuesday after 90 mins today, Jakub hasn't really done much wrong, faes has been awful and vestegaard has been our best player this season.

 

I think Marti needs to go back to basics, get the squad organised, perhaps play 2 banks of 4, our strikers have zero confidence so we need to play direct football and concentrate on winning the second ball, and we need to work out how we can stop being so predictable with fatawu who looks fed up with being double man marked 

[studentofthegame]

24 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Oh no dispute here but this is the type of manager KP want, a technical continental style manager who Barca leanings. We want someone to come and and grab the club by the scruff of the neck. We won’t get that type though.

Which is why it is time for KP to **** off, well it has been time for a while

 

I want them all gone, I want King Power gone, I want top gone, I want Rudkin gone

 

Sadly the only realistic one is Cifuentes right now, so I will take what I can get

[Tielemans63]

2 minutes ago, nnfox said:

This forum is actually nuts.

 

The club is in a terrible place and fans calling for the manager to go is frankly making the situation even worse.

 

22/23 - relegated with a squad that should have been competing for European football and then we lose Kasper, Maddison, Barnes, Tielemans, Evans, Soyuncu.  They are replaced by Hermansen, Winks, Coady, Fatawu and Mavididi

23/24 - promoted, but lose KDH and Maresca and we are SKINT. 

24/25 - We buy Skipp(?), BEK and Ayew and bring in Cooper as manager - we were always going to be up against it.  Cooper goes.  RVN comes in - another zero cost manager.  Results are terrible all season, players bereft of any confidence.  Relegated

25/26 - Another manager - Marti.  He PAYS HIS OWN COMPENSATION to join us late in pre-season.  Sees BEK, Vardy, Mads, Justin, Ndidi and McAteer leave.  We spend ZERO money on bringing players in.

 

Fans believe that we have some kind of golden generation of youth players that can somehow dismantle one of the toughest leagues in football.  This season we've seen Monga quite a bit - he has a long way to go to fulfil his potential and I'm not convinced he strengthens the team right now.  Page looked decent in one game and out of his depth in the other, Nelson looked extremely shaky, Alves is a way off yet.  As for Evans, Aluko and others - maybe, just maybe, they're not quite ready yet and everybody needs to be patient with the core of a youth team that finished 10th in their youth league last season. These players are not about to set the Championship on fire, even if their potential is high.

 

The squad is dire but there's NO MONEY to buy anyone.  We demonstrated we have no money yet we're suggesting that before we're even half way through the season we should sack a manger and therefore have even LESS MONEY to improve the squad.

 

It's plainly obvious that we are in desperate need of a proper striker that can actually score goals.  It's plainly obvious that we need some creativity in the middle of the park.  It's plainly obvious that we need to move more than a couple of players on.  It's plainly obvious that the DoF is incompetent.  It's plainly obvious that the owner is clueless.  It's plainly obvious that we are desperately short of cash.

 

Believe me...  We have 99 problems, but Marti ain't one.

 

 

All of this is true...however I don't see much to suggest Marti is the guy to fix some or even any of those problems. Marti is one more among the almost infinite number of problems the club has right now. 

 

He doesn't get a free pass in my opinion. 

[whoareyaaa]

6 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

I don't really know what your question was?

 

I already told you Skipp is a better player than Soumare, Soumare should never be stepping on the pitch for us again, he is a dreadful waste of space and worst of all he is a lazy dreadful waste of space

 

At least Skipp puts a bit of effort in and tries

 

Personally though I would play neither seen as James best position is deeper alongside Winks and he is being wasted out of position in the 10

Skipp is dog shit, 20 million pounds of dog shit he runs around chasing shadows.

[filbertway]

13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

 

Regarding the booing during the match, Matt Elliot on comme was discussing it today, and he was very assertive in saying it absolutely does not help the players during he match, it is a large negative, but he also said he saw why and the fans should be allowed to air their discontent at how the club is performing.

So yeah, boo, as they need to hear it, but also recognise we then contribute to the problem.

Eggs and omelettes.

Easy way for them prevent or stop the booing to be fair. 

 

Plenty of people to give them a thumbs up and clap to reinforce that these levels are fine though.

[winteriscoming]

He had the chance at the start of the season to put his stamp on the club and build it around the young players coming thru. 
Instead he went for the safe option of playing shit experienced players. 
1 win in 9 is absolutely pathetic. 
I agree with the majority that the managerial appointment isn’t the major issue within in the club. 
It is above him and until Top sells up nothing will change but Marti really hasn’t helped himself. 

[studentofthegame]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

Skipp is dog shit, 20 million pounds of dog shit he runs around chasing shadows.

It's like you can't actually read

 

At no point has anyone suggested he is good

 

The fact is he is better than Soumare, but neither of them should be starting as mentioned in my last line

[whoareyaaa]

2 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

It's like you can't actually read

 

At no point has anyone suggested he is good

 

The fact is he is better than Soumare, but neither of them should be starting as mentioned in my last line

You're saying he is better than Soumare, 100% not.

[Clever Fox]

1 minute ago, studentofthegame said:

It's like you can't actually read

 

At no point has anyone suggested he is good

 

The fact is he is better than Soumare, but neither of them should be starting as mentioned in my last line

But he isn't better than Soumare that's the point. Skipp isn't even non league standard.

[funkyrobot]

11 minutes ago, studentofthegame said:

I don't really know what your question was?

 

I already told you Skipp is a better player than Soumare, Soumare should never be stepping on the pitch for us again, he is a dreadful waste of space and worst of all he is a lazy dreadful waste of space

 

At least Skipp puts a bit of effort in and tries

 

Personally though I would play neither seen as James best position is deeper alongside Winks and he is being wasted out of position in the 10

Skipp is the latest player to drastically improve his reputation by not actually playing. The lad has been useless in a LCFC shirt. Soumare is not the answer in midfield but unfortunately Skipp is definitely not the answer in midfield. Therein lies the problem. We have Winks and James and that’s literally it for senior midfielders that can put in a shift. 

[ceebeefox]

1 hour ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

The system is the problem.

 

We have the players for a 3-5-2 (or variation of) and we are persisting with a formation that does not suit us.

 

Our strikers have ONE goal all season and yet he hasn’t realised that all 3 play better in a front 2. 
 

We’ve had trouble at centre back all season - if you haven’t got 2 to play in a back 4 go to a 3.

 

Lack of players out wide, play 2 rather than 4. 
 

IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

And play Fatawu at LEFT wingback and Ricardo right and tell them to stay up and let the 3 centre halves handle the one forward they’ll usually be up against Hamza in front sweeping round to cover left and right. We haven’t got any full backs so I don’t want to see any again this season.

[And Joachim goes throoough]

3 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

Tell me someone realistically we could get who’s better? 
Pearson isn’t coming back. 
We need that type of rebuild but who? 
I think we have to look at Wellens, Challinor and those type of lower league managers with something to prove. 
Unfortunately we won’t look abroad like we should. 

He’s abysmal, can’t believe people are defending him

[kingfox]

21 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Take that to its natural conclusion. Not every team can have less than 50% possession can they?

No, but why are the teams that usually dominate possession all started average to shit 🤔

 

You could easily hop onto a Southampton or Norwich forum right now, and the comments would be pretty much identical to many on Foxestalk today. 
 

The teams who get classed as playing tippy tappy football all seem to be experiencing problems. 

[Muzzy_no7]

We look absolutely cack with and without the ball. He’s had more than long enough to demonstrate that he knows what’s he’s doing and show progress.

 

He isn’t playing the youth and is persisting with total plonkers.

 

Incompetent, tactically inept…GET HIM GONE

[winteriscoming]

2 minutes ago, And Joachim goes throoough said:

He’s abysmal, can’t believe people are defending him

I’m not defending him but these clowns will appoint someone worse. 
Guaranteed to be Russell Martin. 

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, kingfox said:

No, but why are the teams that usually dominate possession all started average to shit 🤔

 

You could easily hop onto a Southampton or Norwich forum right now, and the comments would be pretty much identical to many on Foxestalk today. 
 

The teams who get classed as playing tippy tappy football all seem to be experiencing problems. 

For sure, we are seeing a seismic change, it’s just a bloody shame it’s caught us unprepared.

[Ian Nacho]

Whilst he certainly isn't doing himself any favours, this squad is just horrible. Hardly anything positive about it. 

[Tommy Fresh]

This season really needed a manager willing to try and 'force' players out, and have the backing of the club to do so, meaning we could actually do a proper rebuild.

I don't think Marti has that in him and I don't think he'd have the backing of the club regardless.

[Guppys Love Child]

10 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I’m not defending him but these clowns will appoint someone worse. 
Guaranteed to be Russell Martin. 

If that ever happens then its an LCFC Sabbatical for me then until the 'B-TEC Rodgers," gets the sack.

Marti as a manager needs replacing but Brussell Martin is NOT the answer and NEVER WILL BE....

....

[Fox1norfolk]

15 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

We look absolutely cack with and without the ball. He’s had more than long enough to demonstrate that he knows what’s he’s doing and show progress.

 

He isn’t playing the youth and is persisting with total plonkers.

 

Incompetent, tactically inept…GET HIM GONE

Lose on Tuesday he will be sacked  on Wednesday