Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 7 minutes ago, teblin said: Smith if he brought Walsh as an advisor would probably get people on board. Uninspiring but it’s where we are at. It’s about as inspiring as we can hope for I’d say. But it just demonstrates how limited their thinking is. Go for someone who they’ve employed before etc. I’d get behind get though and you could point to his work at Villa as being what we’re after now.
Gwyn Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Just now, winteriscoming said: He was. Everyone has to start somewhere. He’s done very well at Lincoln with limited resources and has experience of developing young players. Wasn't Rafael Benetiz a PE teacher also?
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 6 February Popular Post Posted 6 February (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sly said: Mourinho was a translator once. It really annoys me when people say this. Mourinho was hired as an interpreter because he was already a coach. As a kid he came through the academy system of a top flight Portuguese club, tried to make it as a player, realised he wasn't good enough and gave up on playing to take up coaching instead. He started as a youth coach (again, at a top flight club in Portugal) and worked his way up. Oh and he was also the son of a professional, top flight footballer who knew the professional game inside out. He was already a recognised coach, that's why Robson hired him in the first place, he wanted someone that was multi-lingual AND a coach. This idea that Mourinho was just some nerd that spoke a few languages and he somehow stumbled upon being a genius manager is as ridiculously over-stated as the idea that Jamie Vardy suddenly went from pub football to the Premier League as if he hadn't spent his entire youth getting coached to be a pro in Sheffield Wednesday's academy. Edited 6 February by Finnegan 5
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 6 February Posted 6 February How credible are the stories that Pearson wants to come back, but we’re flirting again with Dean Smith?
EnderbyFox Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Don't worry lads - after Dean Smith has turned us down we only have a few former ex-managers in Rudkins phone book until we get to Nigel
Guest Posted 6 February Posted 6 February I thought Dean Smith, while an improvement on Rodgers in that he actually had some interest in doing the job, was properly crap here. Seemed nice but it was real no tactics just vibes stuff, go out there and do your best lads, you're quick so we'll play you on the wing. Maybe that's the sort of thing we need, I don't know anymore. 1
Finnegan Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 3 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said: Don't worry lads - after Dean Smith has turned us down we only have a few former ex-managers in Rudkins phone book until we get to Nigel Gary Megson is out of work... 1
teblin Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Maybe again another name being dropped to soften the blow of someone else being appointed.
Number 6 Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Smith did shake things up and certainly gave us a chance to stay up which didn't seem to exist under Rodgers. This seemed to be mostly a recognition that he only had a limited number of games and so was willing to try something different. I would say the success was, at best, mixed though. We only managed wins against Wolves and an on the beach West Ham. The matches against those around us in Leeds and Everton only garnered draws. And we put in an absolute shit show of a performance against a depleted Fulham side.
inckley fox Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 10 minutes ago, Sly said: He’s also done a very good job at Lincoln, the FA previously and was highly thought of at Leeds. Mourinho was a translator once. Everyone starts somewhere and I don’t think he’d be the worst appointment. He’d be more ideal in the summer though I’d imagine, if that is the option we persue. I think Mourinho was also a PE teacher! I don't see any relevance in that whatsoever, and it makes people look a bit silly to keep bringing it up. I wasn't a fan of Cooper, but I found his frequently-referenced Forest links and physical attractiveness about as relevant as his failure to pick Will Alves. And the idea of Russell Martin horrifies me, but I couldn't care less about him being a Buddhist or a vegan. The semi-nude calendar shots, or whatever they were, grate on me a bit more (and probably shouldn't!) but generally we don't need to go down that road of raking up totally immaterial reasons for not wanting someone. Martin's very, very dodgy record and Skubala's inexperience... Okay, we can talk about that. But Skubala being an ex-PE teacher is completely uninteresting to me, much like Rodgers having worked in a warehouse or O'Neill as a salesman. I'd need to look into Skubala a bit more to fully form an opinion, but - as with Smith - perhaps the issue is more whether he'd want to touch us with a forty foot pole, or whether we'd pay the compensation, rather than whether or not we should be interested. 2
alanf0x Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Christ. Dean Smith. Would only take this with Fuchs as first team coach and Walsh as director of football
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 6 February Posted 6 February I could believe Dean Smith as it's an easy appointment. Anything to make Nepo Baby and Toenails' lives easier.
Popular Post tickler28 Posted 6 February Popular Post Posted 6 February (edited) They wouldn't touch Nige....to opinionated and controversial for their tastes....not on brand for KPFC anymore might upset someone by telling them the truth Edited 6 February by tickler28 5
MrsJohnMurphy Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 3 minutes ago, alanf0x said: Christ. Dean Smith. Would only take this with Fuchs as first team coach and Walsh as director of football Smith, King, Fuchs & Walsh? We can only dream 1
HankMarvin Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Has anyone credible said it apart from football insider
inckley fox Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 11 minutes ago, Finnegan said: It really annoys me when people say this. Mourinho was hired as an interpreter because he was already a coach. As a kid he came through the academy system of a top flight Portuguese club, tried to make it as a player, realised he wasn't good enough and gave up on playing to take up coaching instead. He started as a youth coach (again, at a top flight club in Portugal) and worked his way up. Oh and he was also the son of a professional, top flight footballer who knew the professional game inside out. He was already a recognised coach, that's why Robson hired him in the first place, he wanted someone that was multi-lingual AND a coach. This idea that Mourinho was just some nerd that spoke a few languages and he somehow stumbled upon being a genius manager is as ridiculously over-stated as the idea that Jamie Vardy suddenly went from pub football to the Premier League as if he hadn't spent his entire youth getting coached to be a pro in Sheffield Wednesday's academy. Okay, but he was still a translator. And a PE teacher before that. I'm well aware that he had some background in the game and that these things are irrelevant to whether or not he was a good manager. That's the point isn't it? Being an ex-PE teacher is neither here nor there for him or for Skubala. Huxley was a teacher too - did that mean he should have stuck to teaching literature? It's an utterly pointless observation.
splinterdream Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 13 minutes ago, Guest said: I thought Dean Smith, while an improvement on Rodgers in that he actually had some interest in doing the job, was properly crap here. Seemed nice but it was real no tactics just vibes stuff, go out there and do your best lads, you're quick so we'll play you on the wing. Maybe that's the sort of thing we need, I don't know anymore. Really? He earned a point at at St James against a flying Newcastle, he got us to a place where we were a peno away from surviving. We were a mess before he came, it was way too late.
Salieri Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 11 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Has anyone credible said it apart from football insider Don’t think so and you can still put a bet on now at odds of 33/1. Highly doubt there is anything in this.
Gazza M Posted 6 February Posted 6 February Thought Smith was pragmatic in his approach which I like. Not a text book manager like Marti was. Would welcome if true. 1
Finnegan Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 7 minutes ago, inckley fox said: Okay, but he was still a translator. And a PE teacher before that. I'm well aware that he had some background in the game and that these things are irrelevant to whether or not he was a good manager. That's the point isn't it? Being an ex-PE teacher is neither here nor there for him or for Skubala. Huxley was a teacher too - did that mean he should have stuck to teaching literature? It's an utterly pointless observation. A person being a PE teacher or not is irrelevant. You're right, it's a pointless observation. A person having an appropriate CV for the job they're applying for is not. The point is that Mourinho knew professional football inside out, had been in and around it since childhood and had worked as a coach for years before he was then picked up (aged 29) by one of the best managers in the world at the time, who then mentored him. Skubala's career to date (having never played the game at any significant level, even academy) is being a PE teacher who got in to football through youth coaching with a few academies, coaching England U18s, getting the Leeds U21 job and then being hired by Lincoln. He's had one job in professional football and whilst he's done it fairly well it would be an absolutely massive risk for us, in our current situation, to gamble everything on him. 1
Salieri Posted 6 February Posted 6 February 5 minutes ago, Finnegan said: A person being a PE teacher or not is irrelevant. You're right, it's a pointless observation. A person having an appropriate CV for the job they're applying for is not. The point is that Mourinho knew professional football inside out, had been in and around it since childhood and had worked as a coach for years before he was then picked up (aged 29) by one of the best managers in the world at the time, who then mentored him. Skubala's career to date (having never played the game at any significant level, even academy) is being a PE teacher who got in to football through youth coaching with a few academies, coaching England U18s, getting the Leeds U21 job and then being hired by Lincoln. He's had one job in professional football and whilst he's done it fairly well it would be an absolutely massive risk for us, in our current situation, to gamble everything on him. I think ‘fairly well’ is quite harsh, he’s doing a brilliant job at Lincoln tbf. I do agree that appointing him would be a huge gamble though, given our current plight.
Mike Oxlong Posted 6 February Posted 6 February (edited) I want someone I've never heard of, maybe a manager who took a team of amateurs to the Maltese league and cup double. All the known names are somewhat uninspiring albeit a reflection of just how far we have fallen Edited 6 February by Mike Oxlong 1
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