Sol thewall Bamba Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 I walked out of the away end behind two old dears genuinely giving it the "where were the people booing when we were in League 1". 1
jammie82uk Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 2 minutes ago, MattFox said: No we don’t have to suck this up We certainly do, even if Top left tomorrow due to current conditions nothing would change, we will still have the same players who multiple managers have failed to get a tune out of as they seem to want to laugh & joke about what positions they are asked to play like Faes did yesterday, our only sellable assets makes the team notably worse then it already is, People may laugh at this but we have to realize things can get even worse then they already are, if we are not really careful we could end up like Luton
izzymuzzet Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 I said after the Preston game that I'd be happy to see this season as an opportunity to build for the future. Clear out as much deadwood as possible, build the team around a core of academy products and develop a style that can win us promotion next season. We'll be recieving a points deduction so promotion looks unlikely anyway - why not use this season to build something? At the moment we're getting the worst of both worlds. Marti is still playing players who have repeatedly failed AND automatic promotion looks implausible. If we were to have a squad something like the following, while finishing 14th, I would be fairly content. I just want to see some kind of plan for the future. Jakub Ricardo Nelson Okoli Aluko Winks James Monga Ramsey Fatawu Carranza Begovic, L Thomas, Choudhury, Thomas, Evans, Hutchinson, Mavididi, S Thomas, Page 1
Pliskin Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 Support doesn’t mean you have to be eternally positive….. nor does it mean you have a responsibility to be positive about the club even when it’s on its arse. It’s a stupid old mentality that needs to die, it’s like telling someone to just trudge along doing the same things day in day out because it’s comforting and feels right. Behaving as you have suggested by just turning up and supporting regardless will not help anything, it will simply show King Power that everything is okay and those doing so will be complicit in our demise. It’s this kind of attitude that is landing us in the shit. The irony behind it all, is that we all applauded Sheffield Wednesday when they staged a protest on match day one, yet we criticise our fan base for being disgruntled at our own shoddy ownership? Look at what Sheff Wed have achieved, short term pain, but their diabolical o regime is over and they can see a future with a potential new buyer. The question is to all Leicester fans is do you want that? Do you want this club to end up like that? Because that’s exactly where we are heading, we can be proactive about it and force KP out, by boycotting and protesting, or we can just turn up every week “sing our hearts out for the lads” of which most don’t want to be here, and don’t give a shit about the club, and watch us slide into the black hole of football. 2
Harpenden Fox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 7 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: I walked out of the away end behind two old dears genuinely giving it the "where were the people booing when we were in League 1". It’s a reasonable question though. Did we used to boo in our last era of crapness?
phoneticerror Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 2 minutes ago, Harpenden Fox said: It’s a reasonable question though. Did we used to boo in our last era of crapness? The players in League One weren’t as bloody unlikeable. Makes a big difference mate.
ALC Fox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 Just now, phoneticerror said: The players in League One weren’t as bloody unlikeable. Makes a big difference mate. Not trying to be a boblet but we were also good in League One. There weren't many opportunities to boo. It was the relegation season before that had cause to boo. 2
beepee1984 Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 2 minutes ago, Harpenden Fox said: It’s a reasonable question though. Did we used to boo in our last era of crapness? The players put in a shift, not every Leicester team have been world beaters, but we did always use to display the "Foxes never quit" slogan. We had a poor team back then managed by a poor manager, but the players put the effort in. You saw the effect relegation had on the players, you saw them hurting when we lost The problem we have had over the past few years (almost since the start of 2021) is the players don't put the effort in especially when things get tough - yes we had a bit of a rebound under Enzo, but it is the players reactions when things are not going there way that is the problem and how often they really look like they don't care about the club. There has become an arrogance within the club where players think they are better than the club and that is the problem - that is why the fans dislike what they see so much We still have 3 international centre backs making Championship strikers look like Haaland week in week out
purpleronnie Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 4 minutes ago, ALC Fox said: Not trying to be a boblet but we were also good in League One. There weren't many opportunities to boo. It was the relegation season before that had cause to boo. I need to know what a boblet is....
ALC Fox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 Oddly enough - and it pains me to say it - but we can look at Coventry as a recent example of how things can turn. At one point they were falling like a stone, didn't have a home ground and there was every chance they could drop into the non-league. Now they're laying waste to the Championship and, although we have a long way to go, they'll be there or thereabouts by the end of the season. Sorting ourselves out in a playing sense and financial sense is a multi-season endeavour. It may well require a change of ownership as the current people running the club continually prove their incompetence. But we've always been an up and down club. Major decisions need to be made and we should absolutely be putting the pressure on to facilitate that, but we'll be back again at some point, punching up and giving the elite clubs a bloody nose.
izzymuzzet Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 19 minutes ago, Harpenden Fox said: It’s a reasonable question though. Did we used to boo in our last era of crapness? We stormed the league in 2008/09 and only lost 4 games all season, so no we weren't booing then. The previous season when we got relegated - loads of booing. It's a long time ago now but I recall the atmosphere when we lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday when Hume missed the penalty was pretty toxic. The ground was full as well. 1
RonnieTodger Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 The fans have sucked up decline for 5 years 1
lgfualol Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 I expect us to shit the league tbh, our squad still has good enough players. Even shit sides who put the work in can get promoted out this doggo league. Wont accept us being THIS SHIT unfortunately
coolhandfox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 Maybe a few shots on target and attacking football.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 I do think you’re right in terms of people still haven’t adjusted expectations of where we actually are now and that’s understandable first season back down. same time I don’t think you can blame fans kicking off over the turgid football and the same shite style ruud, even enzo put in (least he won games) we are shit, we’ve got one elite player who will probably be gone at January at this rate. Our defence is abject, midfield is generally relatively passable for a top 6 side and we’ve got the worse strike options in the league. Anybody thinking we should be pissing it is a bit delusional 1
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, izzymuzzet said: We stormed the league in 2008/09 and only lost 4 games all season, so no we weren't booing then. The previous season when we got relegated - loads of booing. It's a long time ago now but I recall the atmosphere when we lost at home to Sheffield Wednesday when Hume missed the penalty was pretty toxic. The ground was full as well. Looking back apparently the team got booed off for being held 0-0 at home to ten man Oldham when we'd dicked Walsall 4-1 in the snow at Bescot four days earlier and were 11 points clear at the top Edited 26 October 2025 by Mike the Metal Ed 1
murphy Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 38 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Support doesn’t mean you have to be eternally positive….. nor does it mean you have a responsibility to be positive about the club even when it’s on its arse. It’s a stupid old mentality that needs to die, it’s like telling someone to just trudge along doing the same things day in day out because it’s comforting and feels right. Behaving as you have suggested by just turning up and supporting regardless will not help anything, it will simply show King Power that everything is okay and those doing so will be complicit in our demise. It’s this kind of attitude that is landing us in the shit. The irony behind it all, is that we all applauded Sheffield Wednesday when they staged a protest on match day one, yet we criticise our fan base for being disgruntled at our own shoddy ownership? Look at what Sheff Wed have achieved, short term pain, but their diabolical o regime is over and they can see a future with a potential new buyer. The question is to all Leicester fans is do you want that? Do you want this club to end up like that? Because that’s exactly where we are heading, we can be proactive about it and force KP out, by boycotting and protesting, or we can just turn up every week “sing our hearts out for the lads” of which most don’t want to be here, and don’t give a shit about the club, and watch us slide into the black hole of football. Sheffield Wednesday fans didn't achieve anything. Chansiri didn't leave because of pressure, he left as the club went into administration and subject to a winding up order. 1
Harpenden Fox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 55 minutes ago, phoneticerror said: The players in League One weren’t as bloody unlikeable. Makes a big difference mate. That’s very true. I’m more on about the four years prior to relegation to League one, when, if memory serves, we got worse and worse
Harpenden Fox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 43 minutes ago, ALC Fox said: Oddly enough - and it pains me to say it - but we can look at Coventry as a recent example of how things can turn. At one point they were falling like a stone, didn't have a home ground and there was every chance they could drop into the non-league. Now they're laying waste to the Championship and, although we have a long way to go, they'll be there or thereabouts by the end of the season. Sorting ourselves out in a playing sense and financial sense is a multi-season endeavour. It may well require a change of ownership as the current people running the club continually prove their incompetence. But we've always been an up and down club. Major decisions need to be made and we should absolutely be putting the pressure on to facilitate that, but we'll be back again at some point, punching up and giving the elite clubs a bloody nose. Or Sunderland. I went to the SOL in March 24, and they were pretty awful. Now they’re second in the Prem. They do have a decent chairman though! 1
STEVIE B Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 (edited) 'Suck It Up', is a hard take, especially when we have some player’s clearly not motivated, not putting in the hard yards & seemingly unfit. Obviously, we all have different opinions, but it seems we’ve been in this rut for far too long now. Also, the disconnect between the fans, club & team has never been so stark, which is probably a by-product of the above. Edited 26 October 2025 by STEVIE B
Bourbon Fox Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: I walked out of the away end behind two old dears genuinely giving it the "where were the people booing when we were in League 1". If this points per game trend continues, it won't be long before they find out. The ****ing players need to suck it up. Edited 26 October 2025 by Bourbon Fox
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 Every single year, time and time again managers prove that with the right system, you can take a fairly average bunch (with a couple of stars) and turn them into a well-oiled machine that exceeds expectations. Millwall at the moment have signed a few very good players that could make the step up, but overall they have many players that are steady at this level, look at where they are and how they are performing, because Alex Neil is getting the best out of them, he is improving every player by 5%. Nigel Pearson 2014 - "If everyone improves by a couple of percent, it very quickly adds up. That is really what it's about" Good managers at this level like Alex Neil know how to do that, they adapt the system to make each player improve a few percent. Marti on the other hand, has so far proved he's only "pragmatic" within his own very narrow ideology, reminds me of Rachel Reeves, he's created a straight jacket for himself with his obsession with this style, and he's now essentially hampering the entire squad by trying to make players play a system they are not very good at. Most teams in this league would take Monga, Winks, Fatawu, Mavididi, James, Ricardo, & Vestergaard, then players like BDCR, Faes, Ayew, Soumare are the sorts of players that managers like Alex Neil would be able to work with and find a way to improve their contribution. Right now, Marti is doing the opposite, he's stifled the very poor attack we had and somehow made it regress with his rigid constraints. How can Fatawu produce magic when he's doubled up on every game and has nobody providing an over or underlap to create space? How can the strikers produce goals when the only time they receive the ball, they are 25 yards out with their back to goal and 4 players surrounding them because we took so long to transition from defence to attack that the opposition had ages to form a deep block. It's the same old, same old boring predictable football that the vast majority of possession-obsessed managers employ. Very few actually manage to make the system work fluidly, and the 10 year experiment of this system is now declining at the top of football and not growing imo. I'm monologuing. The point is, we should NEVER accept mediocrity from anyone. Many of us hold Top accountable for this mess; we hold the players accountable for this mess. Marti needs to be held accountable for now adding to this mess with his tedious brand of football. He's paid to get the most out of the squad, but he isn't doing that. In fact, his system is stifling the only talent we have. The reason I wanted Rohl so badly is that his system would have actually benefitted our best talent. I was led to believe Marti was a different brand of possession that was pragmatic; he isn't. I saw many QPR fans warning us about this. 1 1
DJW1 Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 1 hour ago, izzymuzzet said: I said after the Preston game that I'd be happy to see this season as an opportunity to build for the future. Clear out as much deadwood as possible, build the team around a core of academy products and develop a style that can win us promotion next season. We'll be recieving a points deduction so promotion looks unlikely anyway - why not use this season to build something? At the moment we're getting the worst of both worlds. Marti is still playing players who have repeatedly failed AND automatic promotion looks implausible. If we were to have a squad something like the following, while finishing 14th, I would be fairly content. I just want to see some kind of plan for the future. Jakub Ricardo Nelson Okoli Aluko Winks James Monga Ramsey Fatawu Carranza Begovic, L Thomas, Choudhury, Thomas, Evans, Hutchinson, Mavididi, S Thomas, Page I agree with your statements and your ideal team. Perhaps the model to follow is that of Sunderland (without the relegation to League 1!). They brought through young players while challenging for promotion to the PL. They had to sell a couple to balance the books but are now seeing the reward. Easier said than done of course. 1
Corky Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 1 hour ago, Harpenden Fox said: It’s a reasonable question though. Did we used to boo in our last era of crapness? Yes. People booed, chanted for the manager to go (Levein and Kelly being notable examples), threw programmes (or whatever they were) on the pitch when Aston Villa scored loads in no time. Holloway had a go at the fans for making it uncomfortable for the players. Booing is not a new thing. People accepting this rubbish is.
honeybradger Posted 26 October 2025 Posted 26 October 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Reality check What are you expecting? Don't you know the players we have in our squad by now? Are you not aware of the financial fiasco and the PSR will-they-won't-they saga? Things are not going to change drastically any time soon. We were never going to walk this league. Three or four good players are never going to be able to carry a team of over-the-hill, malcontent or just plain poor players. Bringing talented youngsters into such a team is only going to ruin them. We could have Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola or Luis Felipe Scolari in charge, they would struggle with our squad. But get this, nothing is going to change overnight. Nothing will be different next week. There's no consistent curve to better times. There's ups and downs. Sometimes more downs than ups; sometimes the reverse. It will take time to change. Being frustrated about it alters nothing, it just enhances the negativity. For now we have to suck it up and endure, but back the team that's our there and the current manager. It's what supporters do; they support, it's in the title. Moan, bitch and whine all you like - unless a miraculous takeover happens - it's going to be a long hard season. Yet if we try to make the best of it, support the team that's our there, maybe we can eke a little more out of them to hold back the tide, maybe even turn it. The only thing you can control is yourself. Everything else, sorry, no. Take a deep breath and consider that. Suck it up and go again. Playing talented players in a below average team does not ruin them, where have you seen an example of that? Birmingham weren't good when Bellingham broke out, same for our own Jordan James, Reading weren't particularly good when Olise was playing, Blackburn not great when Wharton was playing, Qpr not great when Eze was playing, Oxford United not great when Nelson was playing. You talk about what supporters can and cant control, but the club and manager also cant suddenly flip the quality of the squad on it's head and start winning, the only thing the club have in their control is to start planning for the future and start building the spine of the team around our academy golden generation. Edited 26 October 2025 by honeybradger
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