Is this the worse it’s ever been?

[emmo1987]

29 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

The years before we got relegated to League One, the threat of extinction was still fresh enough for everyone to understand we were pleased just to still have a club. But I still remember feeling hopeful of a play off push each season and every now and then we found a decent player like Hume and Fryatt.

 

But this time round we’ve lost a position of amazing strength through mismanagement and neglect by those still in charge. The club treats fans like crap. And it’s not that the players aren’t good enough for the level, it’s that their attitude and mentality is toxic.

 

Ultimately this time round was, and is, so avoidable. That’s what’s making it so galling for me at the moment: it doesn’t need to be this way.

Absolutely spot on

[when_you're_smiling]

Absolutely recency bias.

 

Crazy how people just brush off administration as if they don’t know what it means.

 

Until we’re questioning if we have a football club to support anymore it won’t be as bad. (The Christmas pay thing is a worrying sign, but we’re not there yet thankfully.) 

[izzymuzzet]

Think there’s a case to be made for 2025 being the worst calendar year in my time supporting Leicester (since the early 1990s). 
 

The only year that comes anywhere close is 2002 for the triple whammy of relegation, leaving Filbert Street and administration. But even with all that, things were going pretty well on the pitch by the end of that year. We’ve just had so little to cheer this year, and off the field the club is in a dire state.

 

[Pliskin]

30 minutes ago, ronnup said:

It's hard to agree with this. Maybe its an age thing. We had no hope at all of ever doing anything that resembled exciting for decades. 

Our best players were often loan players from premiership teams. I remember being excited about Gareth Williams  because he had "pedigree". 

What we currently have is a hangover from the champagne years.

Is it the worst weve seen? **** no. Miles from it. Does it sting because of what we've seen in the last decade? Probably.  But the football is eschalons higher 

I respectfully disagree. 
 

 

You’ve got to look at the whole picture….. in terms of actual football, it probably isn’t no…. I’ve watched Lavien, Megson, Holloway et al, and it was dreadful…. But as an organisation we were on our arse… we’d come from nothing we had nothing so expectations were low…. We were more on a par with those around us at this level….. we had a higher MON, because he like Nigel latterly, built a blueprint for success with a modest backings 

 

Whereas now, we’re actually a big club, the money that has passed through this club in the last decade is only eclipsed by the predictions big six….

 

Context is everything, pre KP and Nigel we were bang average… this excuse simply isn’t the case now, so we now find ourselves on the brink of a relegation battle following making a fortune that simply should have made this situation impossible…….

We are the equivalent of winning the euro millions jackpot and spaffing it needlessly in two weeks . 

[Mike Oxlong]

When we went down to League One it hurt, it hurt for months. The fact that it doesn't hurt anymore, whilst in some ways a good thing, just shows that at the moment it really is as bad as it gets

[Pliskin]

3 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Absolutely recency bias.

 

Crazy how people just brush off administration as if they don’t know what it means.

 

Until we’re questioning if we have a football club to support anymore it won’t be as bad. (The Christmas pay thing is a worrying sign, but we’re not there yet thankfully.) 

Again….. context. As an organisation we were small fry….. 

 

Now we’re not, it’s not recently bias, it’s understanding the current climate…we’re a mugs different club to then, we had it all and threw it away. So yes, because of what we’ve lost, this is very much the worst period in the clubs history, or it is at least developing into the darkest era.

 

 

[Corky]

8 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Absolutely recency bias.

 

Crazy how people just brush off administration as if they don’t know what it means.

 

Until we’re questioning if we have a football club to support anymore it won’t be as bad. (The Christmas pay thing is a worrying sign, but we’re not there yet thankfully.) 

Off the pitch it was horrendous but on it we still had the likes of Izzet, Elliott, Taggart, Dickov and Deane.

[murphy]

7 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I mean, I struggle to see how anyone doesn’t this this issue darkest period….

 

Prior to Nigel Pearson (and reluctantly KP), we were just an average club… but since then, we’ve had close to £600b pass through the club….. and we’re a million miles away from Forest, and now Coventry……..

I think that people that are talking about the Pleat years are failing to think in terms of context.  We became a little bit worse than what had been before and nearly got relegated.  

 

This era has seen a Champion's League chasing, FA Cup winning club being turned into a Championship laughing stock in the blink of an eye by players signed for multiple millions on huge contracts.  An act of self-harm so avoidable that one might suspect industrial sabotage.  It is a fall so dramatic that it is unprecedented.

[jayfox26]

43 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

The years before we got relegated to League One, the threat of extinction was still fresh enough for everyone to understand we were pleased just to still have a club. But I still remember feeling hopeful of a play off push each season and every now and then we found a decent player like Hume and Fryatt.

 

But this time round we’ve lost a position of amazing strength through mismanagement and neglect by those still in charge. The club treats fans like crap. And it’s not that the players aren’t good enough for the level, it’s that their attitude and mentality is toxic.

 

Ultimately this time round was, and is, so avoidable. That’s what’s making it so galling for me at the moment: it doesn’t need to be this way.

100% and also the same in the Rodgers relegation season. That team should never have been relegated and that was the start of our demise. Players were more than good enough to stay up but Rodgers and his toxic attitude destroyed us and that toxicity has continued despite a year of papering over cracks under Enzo. We've hired terrible managers and signed some terrible players but that's all by the by, the continued lack of professionalism, pride, fight and actually giving a shit at every level of the club has gone and has been for years, and until we gain some leadership starting in the board room, down to the manager and coaches and into the players, we Will never be a serious club again. 

[Muzzy_no7]

Perspective is everything. 
 

Yes, this is the worst. 

[Clogger_]

1 hour ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Scowcroft had left the club two years before Megson's appointment

I'll try again. Did Megson deploy MDV and *Carl Cort* as wingers? Been wracking what is left of my brains...

[Harpenden Fox]

It's certainly down there, and I think for most of us, having a leader who is a) vain glorious b) not seemingly that interested c ) arrogant d) lacking much football knowledge makes things worse, as it's quite clear we haven't hit the bottom yet. 

 

A second visit to League One looks more likely than not to me.

[john ridley]

45 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

There have been many eras worse than this, but proportionately due to what we’re paying these so called footballers, it is pretty close to being worse. Also where we were to now in a flash is hard to take.

The thing is then ,we could  always dream of better times ,now it just looks shit for years ahead until we're  shot of all these gutless ****wits and start again more likely in league one .

[Chrysalis]

I dont know if we talking about results, the football style, or the club ownership issues.

 

For me this is the most detached I have ever been from the club, when the club went in admin it wasnt a good moment bu t at least then people rallied together and a fix was in the works, whilst now its like we are a stumbling drunken who doesnt realise he is drunk.

 

In terms of results, players etc. we have been worse, but my issue with what is happening now, is we not just rubbish on the pitch, but also its extremely over paid rubbish, a mandate from the ownership of a style of play, and a lack of long term planning on the building of the squad, its like we just throwing darts at a board randomly.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

We can argue and debate until the cows come home, but for me this could be worse given the fall from grace. I don’t think it is worse yet, but we’re not far off. I don’t know what the tipping point would be, but either way I think we can all agree this is totally unacceptable. 
 

I also think we can agree the lack of visible discontent from the fans is also an embarrassment (for which I am a part of). Wolves fans are doing more and they’re still in the league above. We need boycotts, we need protests and we need chants all game long about KP. We need to really up the ante. 
 

We need one of the organised groups to lead and organise the rest of the fan base or at least those willing to stand up and make themselves heard in an uncomfortable way. This needs to happen irrespective of if we win a few games and fluke a few good performances.

[foxile5]

42 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

It’s not recency bias any more than it just being very recently that we were the best we’ve ever been.

 

 

No club (to my knowledge, especially in the PL era) has fallen so far and hard so quickly. 

Absolutely this. 

 

The problem here is that four FOUR years ago we were winning the FA cup with a squad capable of League success. 

 

The demise is criminal negligence. 

[SK3Blue]

Seen a lot of dross under Hamilton, Pleat, Levein, Holloway but I still wanted to go to games.  Now with the cost, lack of atmosphere, owners silence, and the dross on the pitch I can’t be bothered anymore. They couldn’t sell me a general sale ticket for many seasons, now they are emailing me about category D tickets for Oxford. 

[when_you're_smiling]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Again….. context. As an organisation we were small fry….. 

 

Now we’re not, it’s not recently bias, it’s understanding the current climate…we’re a mugs different club to then, we had it all and threw it away. So yes, because of what we’ve lost, this is very much the worst period in the clubs history, or it is at least developing into the darkest era.

 

 

I understand where you’re coming from, but it very much underestimates the threat of not existing anymore, which is my point.

 

Yes we were pushing top four but even under MON we were still top 10 when only two teams went into the Champs League.

 

22 minutes ago, Corky said:

Off the pitch it was horrendous but on it we still had the likes of Izzet, Elliott, Taggart, Dickov and Deane.

Again, yes, there wasn’t the worries off the pitch when they were playing for us, but we also had two playing for us for free we were so hard up and facing the wall.

[Dan]

We are on the road to our worst ever position. I've no doubt about that at all.

 

So yes I'd say so. There's not a single positive following us under this ownership. This is a unique freak of a situation.

Edited 26 December 2025 by Dan

[accessory]

11 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

I understand where you’re coming from, but it very much underestimates the threat of not existing anymore, which is my point.

 

Yes we were pushing top four but even under MON we were still top 10 when only two teams went into the Champs League.

 

Again, yes, there wasn’t the worries off the pitch when they were playing for us, but we also had two playing for us for free we were so hard up and facing the wall.

But at that time we were also getting regular 30k+ crowds for the first time in decades. That gave us an advantage over the rest of the league.

 

Thousands have walked away from the club in recent months.

 

Doubt many of them will return while Aiyawatt and Rudkin remain in charge..

[Dan]

1 hour ago, teblin said:

It was terrible the year we went to league one. But I still wanted to go, I don’t want to go anymore.

This is it. It's uniquely bad. It's not even good when we win.

[when_you're_smiling]

Just now, accessory said:

But at that time we were also getting regular 30k+ crowds for the first time in decades. That gave us an advantage over the rest of the league.

 

Thousands have walked away from the club in recent months.

 

Doubt many of them will return while Aiyawatt and Rudkin remain in charge..

First time ever because it was the first time we’d had a 30k stadium!

 

Once the novelty of a new stadium wore off it was regularly  23k ish during the mid 00s, mid table Championship, years.

[Dan]

1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

The years before we got relegated to League One, the threat of extinction was still fresh enough for everyone to understand we were pleased just to still have a club. But I still remember feeling hopeful of a play off push each season and every now and then we found a decent player like Hume and Fryatt.

 

But this time round we’ve lost a position of amazing strength through mismanagement and neglect by those still in charge. The club treats fans like crap. And it’s not that the players aren’t good enough for the level, it’s that their attitude and mentality is toxic.

 

Ultimately this time round was, and is, so avoidable. That’s what’s making it so galling for me at the moment: it doesn’t need to be this way.

Add in that the same people are entirely bulletproof and add in that a sizeable number of our fans turn a blind eye to it.

 

It's unbearable. There's literally nothing good about it. 

[Claridge]

The most dislikable squad in my 60 yrs as a fan, it’s the total lack of hope that they can turn it around.At least 5 changes for the Derby game needed.

[cropstonfox]

1 minute ago, Claridge said:

The most dislikable squad in my 60 yrs as a fan, it’s the total lack of hope that they can turn it around.At least 5 changes for the Derby game needed.

5 changes.Crap for shit?