Oxford 2-1 Post Match Thread

[Gamble92]

7 hours ago, Parafox said:

In a way it's a shame that we achieved what we did in the glory days because the fan base, including me, now hope for the equivalent. That's never going to happen and most of us understand and accept that.

 

However the drop off is so disappointing and frustrating.

 

If we'd never had those heady days of unexpected, wonderful success, we wouldn't be bemoaning the situation we're now in because this level would have always been the norm

 

Sadly we had that almost intangible "thing" that we strived for and it was down to a perfect set of circumstances.

 

Now things have changed. 

 

I agree that we should be performing better but we'll never be as we were in the cup/title years.

 

I'm NOT a happy clapper BTW. Just a realist.

No we don't. 

 

I'm sick of this accusation. We expect ****ing effort. This level is disgusting. 

 

I don't know one fan who wouldn't be absolutely fine if the decline meant we sold a few players and were fighting relegation in the Premier League. Even that as a drop off would have been huge but we'd still be fine with it.

 

I hate the idea that because we have achieved those wins that we are entitled. It's a view I think that's crept into the players too and allowed so much decline. Oh they just expect a title win so what do they know. Even Top tried to say it during his car crash interview. It's a deluded, self centred, petulant view by a bunch of arrogant, out of their depth tossers who don't give a shit about this club. 

[Dan]

This standard has never ever been acceptable in our history and winning the league/cup has absolutely nothing to do with it. Even in the noughties, we were rubbish but we sort of had fair reason to be. You couldn't accuse those teams of what this team has served up.

 

Like I keep saying - pound for pound this is the worst team in world football. You will not find a team so bad relative to what their players are paid as this one in the world. Maybe there is one in Saudi Arabia, but I would have my doubts.

 

Genuinely can't bring myself to look at that vermin twat who owns us. To think there are people out there who are so brainwashed that they actually defend this as well. Absolute disgrace to the club they are. About time we keep notes on who these people are so we can call them out in future when they claim they had nothing to do with it.

Edited 25 January by Dan

[filbertway]

Watched the highlights 

Their 2nd goal is hilarious 

 

Surely the players and management will offer back their earnings

 

Jordan james was carrying this team haha. Probably one of the lowest paid as well.

[filbertway]

4 minutes ago, Dan said:

This standard has never ever been acceptable in our history and winning the league/cup has absolutely nothing to do with it. Even in the noughties, we were rubbish but we sort of had fair reason to be. You couldn't accuse those teams of what this team has served up.

 

Like I keep saying - pound for pound this is the worst team in world football. You will not find a team so bad relative to what their players are paid as this one in the world. Maybe there is one in Saudi Arabia, but I would have my doubts.

 

Genuinely can't bring myself to look at that vermin twat who owns us. To think there are people out there who are so brainwashed that they actually defend this as well. Absolute disgrace to the club they are. About time we keep notes on who these people are so we can call them out in future when they claim they had nothing to do with it.

Were paying this squad 40m a year. Its nothing g like the 90s or 80s. This is our lowest low. Surely.

[Dan]

4 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Were paying this squad 40m a year. Its nothing g like the 90s or 80s. This is our lowest low. Surely.

I'm all ears for suggestions on a team that is worse compared to the money the squad is paid than this. Best suggestions were the likes of Wolves, West Ham (Premier League money obviously skews this) but I don't think they're quite on this level.

 

It's completely extraordinary what's going on here. Like unprecedented in my memory.

[filbertway]

 

 

6 minutes ago, Dan said:

I'm all ears for suggestions on a team that is worse compared to the money the squad is paid than this. Best suggestions were the likes of Wolves, West Ham (Premier League money obviously skews this) but I don't think they're quite on this level.

 

It's completely extraordinary what's going on here. Like unprecedented in my memory.

We're breaking new ground. Congerton sending down Sunderland with Rodwell on 70 bags was bad

 

I think we can beat that

[Katy]

The team that went down to L1 weren’t (on paper) anywhere near as good as the team we supposedly have now. The big difference is that team, despite not having the quality, made up for being crap by at least putting effort in. This lot are slightly less crap but putting no effort in whatsoever. The only player who I felt did anything yesterday was Abdul and even he wasn’t great. 
 

All fans ask of their team is to give 100% every game and look like they give a shit about the club and the fans. Can any of this lot, hand on heart, say that they’re doing that this season? Apart from some the academy lads I’m willing to put money on NO. 

[teblin]

12 minutes ago, Katy said:

The team that went down to L1 weren’t (on paper) anywhere near as good as the team we supposedly have now. The big difference is that team, despite not having the quality, made up for being crap by at least putting effort in. This lot are slightly less crap but putting no effort in whatsoever. The only player who I felt did anything yesterday was Abdul and even he wasn’t great. 
 

All fans ask of their team is to give 100% every game and look like they give a shit about the club and the fans. Can any of this lot, hand on heart, say that they’re doing that this season? Apart from some the academy lads I’m willing to put money on NO. 

Agree mostly, problem I didn’t think yesterday they weren’t trying it was just poor. Lack of structure and quality. 
 

Oxford had a plan and stuck to it. 
 

other times the effort thing you could level with them.

Edited 25 January by teblin

[beepee1984]

9 minutes ago, Katy said:

All fans ask of their team is to give 100% every game and look like they give a shit about the club and the fans. Can any of this lot, hand on heart, say that they’re doing that this season? Apart from some the academy lads I’m willing to put money on NO. 

Honestly I don’t even expect 100% every game, but this lot haven’t given 10% for 90% of the games. 
The attitude is spreading to the academy lads, Thomas is a worse offender. 
I think being around such unprofessionalism and the severe negativity around the club is also effecting the teenagers development here - which is a shame, because our academy is producing at the moment 

[Katy]

13 minutes ago, beepee1984 said:

The attitude is spreading to the academy lads, Thomas is a worse offender. 
I think being around such unprofessionalism and the severe negativity around the club is also effecting the teenagers development here - which is a shame, because our academy is producing at the moment 

And this is the saddest part 😕

[The Year Of The Fox]

How toxic was the atmosphere? (Or not?)

[Daggers]

[LCFCJohn]

13 hours ago, sishades said:

Awful, Its so depressing. I have not been on here as I got annoyed ay being banned for a day for telling contributors who wanted us to lose to F off. I am now firmly in the Marti out camp, with a points deduction this team has no fight whatsoever to win a relegation battle.

I can’t ever want us to lose. I confess that I was a bit irritated Fatawu pulled one back as we have seen this before. Pull a goal back (or twice in that Sheff Utd game) and make it look like a close game. Papering over the cracks. As in, if you thought it would hurry up change, I’d rather lose 2-0 or 3-0 than 2-1. A loss is a loss ultimately. 
 

Do you not yet think there is a problem that is bigger than the manager though? I think we are all on the same page about Marti now. Nobody can surely think he is doing a decent job. 
 

What are your honest views on the ownership situation now and the way the club is being run?

[Sunbury Fox]

We are in huge trouble. Based on yesterday's performance, I can see us being dragged into a relegation battle even without a points deduction. Being beaten so easily at home by a team who are next to bottom and with only one previous away win all season (at Sheff Wed) is truly alarming. If we can't win a game like this where are the points coming from to avoid a financially catastrophic fall to League One? We've been incredibly fortunate to have as many wins as we do have this season, let's be honest. The concern now is that our luck has finally run out. Very few of this team will be up for a relegation battle and it's not like we have a fanbase who will drive us to safety in home games. For those who've seen Sunderland Till I Die, the current situation seems very familiar. 

[Bert]

I think the biggest difference yesterday was you seen a team playing for the manager & their club. 
 

Regardless of what you think of the players, man for man not one of their lads is better than ours and none of them would start for us. 
 

But what we seen yesterday, was a team that were prepared to fight, wanted to work hard, knew their limitations, had a game plan and stuck to it. Sadly, that team was Oxford. 
 

I’ve said it time and time again. We are so easy to play against. We have no idea what to do when we go 1-0 down and we instantly shit ourselves when we go 1-0 up. Yesterday was the first time we had some plan B, but that was stick Vestergaard up front.
 

The goals we conceded yesterday are also both completely avoidable. But how many times this season have we conceded sloppy goals through a lack of concentration or individual error?
 

The most baffling thing for me is we get it out wide, but we never have a centre forward in the box. Missing James we have no forward runners going into the box either. By the time either winger has cut in they’re instantly doubled up on and it takes something spectacular for something to happen and the annoying thing about that is because they’re being doubled up there should be some sort of space for us to have an overload, but the ball either gets recycled or lost. 

 

When you have wingers that cut inside, you need the full back to overlap to create that overload which again isn’t happening. Ricardo is usually in that inverted centre midfield role and the left back very rarely advances past Mavididi. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

11 hours ago, Parafox said:

In a way it's a shame that we achieved what we did in the glory days because the fan base, including me, now hope for the equivalent. That's never going to happen and most of us understand and accept that.

 

However the drop off is so disappointing and frustrating.

 

If we'd never had those heady days of unexpected, wonderful success, we wouldn't be bemoaning the situation we're now in because this level would have always been the norm

 

Sadly we had that almost intangible "thing" that we strived for and it was down to a perfect set of circumstances.

 

Now things have changed. 

 

I agree that we should be performing better but we'll never be as we were in the cup/title years.

 

I'm NOT a happy clapper BTW. Just a realist.

It really is incredible how consistently bad your takes are.

[Corky]

11 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

Walked past some Oxford fans who said "they have to be the worst fans I've ever seen!" 

 

They just don't know what we've been through the last 5 years. That game was horrendous 

Most opposition supporters say we are the worst team they have played.

 

There is probably a correlation.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

15 hours ago, StanSP said:

Ayew apparently too. He wasn't happy being subbed I guess. 

 

Mavididi and Marti had to be separated. 

How he can carry on is beyond me. He clearly has no authority, can’t implement his ideas (if he has any) and persisting with him is quickening our demise. I really do think a new voice would get a tune out of these players, or at least improve what we’re currently seeing.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

What a hideous performance - even desperately trying to throw some positive light on things I can't think of much

 

i cant stand Vestergaard but in fairness he was one of only a few to come out of the game at least with some credit (not much at that) 

 

I was going to say Fatawu had a reasonable game but probably the goal papers over a generally sub standard game for him

 

Page tried but is very raw still, Hamza is a crab and I dont think played a forward pass all game long

 

Ricky P although I love him clearly his legs have gone and looks a shadow of the player he was

 

Okoli was awful, Nelson got injured but had a shocker, Stolarczyk was awful, Mavididi was poor, Ayew is not a number 9 and makes the team much poorer in that position. BDCR had a poor game

 

Cifuentes is a bang average (and that's being kind) manager and clearly doesn't motivate the players and has no discernible identity other than quite frankly turgid boring football 

 

time for change - Top get investment or sell up 

 

Cifuentes needs sacking but whilst the current structure is in place we won't get anyone better 

[Arkie Bennett]

1 minute ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

How he can carry on is beyond me. He clearly has no authority, can’t implement his ideas (if he has any) and persisting with him is quickening our demise. I really do think a new voice would get a tune out of these players, or at least improve what we’re currently seeing.

It couldn't be worse. His time was done some weeks ago, but it's at a new low now.

[Reg Vardy]

Don’t want to say this, first goal Page guilty of losing player, second, Monga hardly made a challenge, allowing the counter…….

[Guest worth_the_wait]

49 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said:

Don’t want to say this, first goal Page guilty of losing player, second, Monga hardly made a challenge, allowing the counter…….

That's the trouble.  Most of us want to see some youngsters play, but they're inexperienced and will make mistakes.

[Wortho]

I’ve just seen the Oxford second goal. What the **** are the players actually doing!! 
The Oxford player had time to round the keeper 3 times and do a pirouette and a handstand, and put the ball in the net.

What do they do all week? 

[UniFox21]

We aren't a good side by any means, but we have players with decent quality, enough to have us in and around the playoffs. 

 

Marti seems adamant to not play to anyone's strengths at all.

[fazzyfox]

One great moment - When Monga went round his full back through skill and the angle of his running more than pace and put a cross across the 6 yard box, classic wing play just not read by his team mates.

 

One WTF moment - after more tedious chuckle brothers passing Vestergaard fizzed a decent long ball up to Ayew getting us 20 yards further up the pitch. Without a look around at his options Ayew drilled it straight back, past Vestergaard to Okoli meaning we’d lost 10 yards of territory rather than gained anything. Just cowardly not wanting the ball, usually in that situation he’d dig his heels in, wait for support and at least draw a foul, yesterday he just didn’t fancy it,