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4 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Hard to judge seeing as Okoli was sent off after about 5 actual minutes

I’m judging that we’re pathetic. 

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Everyone pretty much saying what could he have done; who could he have picked?

How is that going to differ for our new manager, and indeed as it was for Cifuentes previously?

Who would Pep select? We're not good enough and it's going to be a slow process of getting rid of these current players, and bringing in new, and youth.

How long before we're telling Martin or Coleman, or whoever to follow Cifuentes? Difficult one.

Posted
1 hour ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

The people stinking the place out are you "fans" that are judging King after 1 game in which we played 85 minutes with 10 players. 

Not judging, you should try it sometime. I'm more simply querying why he couldn't just put Ayew, and the fans, out of their collective misery and bring on Daka.

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Rabbit in headlights. Another PE teacher is my gut feeling. That is why he belongs with the U18's. 

 

Get a new manager in, with own staff who all believe in same idea. Fcuk this "club coach" business. So he should return to the kids and finally sack Hughes the traffic cone coach. Sadler is only short term and also proven he is a wet lettuce 3 years ago when caretaker. 

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14 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I mean what is he meant to select? We literally have no one, he did play quite a lot of young players. Direct your anger at the people who crafted the squad. 

Spot On.

 

I wasn't surprised at his team selection if I'm honest. (And posted as such on other threads) 

However he could have been a bit braver with starting  Daka in for A'Hole, sorry Ayew, and also Aluko for Thomas, and whilst it's hard to change loads in a week,  I was disappointed not to see at least a tweak in style or formation (OK we played a little less out from the back, but it needed more) 'Marti's set up' hadn't really worked so " it is broke and needs fixing"  remember,  these are professional players who should be able to adapt,  like play a bit more narrow, or wider or more hoof ball  ect. and specially at just doing the basics  

 

It was clear by the end of the match who where the best players in their roles and and more importantly their applicaton during the 90 min's and if he learns from this and then adjusts for the Birmingham match then I'll be a bit happier,  but if we have a rince and repeat (Okoli inclusion excused due to him being a stupid tw@t) then sorry Kingy,  'you reap what you sow'

 

 

 

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I do appreciate that King has a hard and thankless task, but why did he just replicate Marti?

 

Not just with the line up, but the exact same style of play, the exact same frustrations like keeping Ayew on for way too long etc.

 

If no one had told me Marti had been sacked, id have just presumed he was still in charge. 

 

If people are giving King a pass for his lack of options etc, then why did Marti have so much grief when he only had the same options?

 

King will get some leeway through sentiment, but in my opinion, hes a culpable as Marti for this season and should have left with him.

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Posted
59 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Spot On.

 

I wasn't surprised at his team selection if I'm honest. (And posted as such on other threads) 

However he could have been a bit braver with starting  Daka in for A'Hole, sorry Ayew, and also Aluko for Thomas, and whilst it's hard to change loads in a week,  I was disappointed not to see at least a tweak in style or formation (OK we played a little less out from the back, but it needed more) 'Marti's set up' hadn't really worked so " it is broke and needs fixing"  remember,  these are professional players who should be able to adapt,  like play a bit more narrow, or wider or more hoof ball  ect. and specially at just doing the basics  

 

It was clear by the end of the match who where the best players in their roles and and more importantly their applicaton during the 90 min's and if he learns from this and then adjusts for the Birmingham match then I'll be a bit happier,  but if we have a rince and repeat (Okoli inclusion excused due to him being a stupid tw@t) then sorry Kingy,  'you reap what you sow'

 

 

 

There was clearly a change in style we played much more direct especially 2nd half and looked fairly decent (compared to our recent performances) despite the fact we had 10 men

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3 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I do appreciate that King has a hard and thankless task, but why did he just replicate Marti?

 

Not just with the line up, but the exact same style of play, the exact same frustrations like keeping Ayew on for way too long etc.

 

If no one had told me Marti had been sacked, id have just presumed he was still in charge. 

 

If people are giving King a pass for his lack of options etc, then why did Marti have so much grief when he only had the same options?

 

King will get some leeway through sentiment, but in my opinion, hes a culpable as Marti for this season and should have left with him.

This is how I feel, yesterday was sad but also expected.  I knew it would be like when Rodgers left and nothing changed because the same people were in charge.

 

King has been part of the team that has been overseeing this decline.  He was on the coaching staff and the players have looked poorly conditioned, undisciplined, playing with zero awareness, lack of urgency and tactics that make zero sense from an attacking perspective.  They haven't worked on Okoli's poor passing, Ayew's cheating instead of trying to play football and his positioning.

 

The lack of support for the wingers is obvious to all that watch us, yet they haven't fixed it.

 

What I'm more shocked about is that he hasn't addressed the tactics.  Surely as a former player he can see the problems and has ideas, I guess not.

 

 

King isn't the sole cause but certainly is part of the mess.  Maybe he's not very good at his job, it happens.

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1 hour ago, Richmondfox said:

This is how I feel, yesterday was sad but also expected.  I knew it would be like when Rodgers left and nothing changed because the same people were in charge.

 

King has been part of the team that has been overseeing this decline.  He was on the coaching staff and the players have looked poorly conditioned, undisciplined, playing with zero awareness, lack of urgency and tactics that make zero sense from an attacking perspective.  They haven't worked on Okoli's poor passing, Ayew's cheating instead of trying to play football and his positioning.

 

The lack of support for the wingers is obvious to all that watch us, yet they haven't fixed it.

 

What I'm more shocked about is that he hasn't addressed the tactics.  Surely as a former player he can see the problems and has ideas, I guess not.

 

 

King isn't the sole cause but certainly is part of the mess.  Maybe he's not very good at his job, it happens.

Its not fifa/ football manager you can't implement a completely new system in 3 days you have to make small changes to try and improve. 

 

Which he did we went more direct moved the ball quicker etc 

 

Some people on here seem to refuse to acknowledge these changes though and just pretend nothing changed

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1 hour ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Its not fifa/ football manager you can't implement a completely new system in 3 days you have to make small changes to try and improve. 

 

Which he did we went more direct moved the ball quicker etc 

 

Some people on here seem to refuse to acknowledge these changes though and just pretend nothing changed

Cope. He is immune to criticism and burying your head in the sand doesn’t help.

 

He was a coach and part of the rot, directly or indirectly.  Our team look unfit, are poor at pressing, working as a team, passing properly around the back, defending  (Thomas) 


He chose to play the players that cause problems week in week out. 

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19 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Cope. He is immune to criticism and burying your head in the sand doesn’t help.

 

He was a coach and part of the rot, directly or indirectly.  Our team look unfit, are poor at pressing, working as a team, passing properly around the back, defending  (Thomas) 


He chose to play the players that cause problems week in week out. 

He was a coach who's remit was to integrate the young players into the first team he was not the one coming up with tactics, he was not the one in charge of training.

 

Some people on here are just ridiculously negative and refuse to be anything other even when there is some admittedly very small positives.

 

And some who seem to be desperate to hate King and put him down for no apparent reason 

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19 hours ago, Blueman1967 said:

No Ayew for a start, try Evans, or Daka, and start a few others, change the style might have helped

Cripes. First Evans is on loan at Northampton and is completely unproven. Anyone who thinks Daka is our saviour in my opinion is deluded. He is lightweight and offers next to nothing. Ayew was poor yesterday, as he has been much of the season but I’m not sure who you think could have started. The lack of a striker has been evident for the past 3-4 seasons and we’ve not resolved this problem. Would definitely prefer Aluko to Thomas but urge caution playing too many youngsters. I feel they lack the physicality to cope in this league. 

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1 hour ago, Harry the Cat said:

Cripes. First Evans is on loan at Northampton and is completely unproven. Anyone who thinks Daka is our saviour in my opinion is deluded. He is lightweight and offers next to nothing. Ayew was poor yesterday, as he has been much of the season but I’m not sure who you think could have started. The lack of a striker has been evident for the past 3-4 seasons and we’ve not resolved this problem. Would definitely prefer Aluko to Thomas but urge caution playing too many youngsters. I feel they lack the physicality to cope in this league. 

Yet the younger players have the energy and hunger.

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As poor as Daka is, he is more effective for the team than Ayew because he occupies 2 of the oppo defenders with his running, and encourages the quicker ball out of our defence.

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