Gary Rowett

[The Horse's Mouth]

8 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The annoying thing will be if Rowett keeps us up in my opinion he should get the job, to be honest if he shows significant progress he should probably also get the job.

 

What I fear is bringing in a Man City sporting director shows that at the first opportunity we will be bringing in another soft as **** tippy tappy clown manager. Something no one has asked for and the reason we are so shit. We are not Man City, we are never going to be Man City, we will never have players good enough to play like Man City. 

I agree our time of being able to take a bit of a punt on someone like Maresca or Ruud has gone and do hope we keep him in place for next season. I think his job will be easier in the sense that a lot of fans are back to reality.

[BrilliantFox]

9 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

The annoying thing will be if Rowett keeps us up in my opinion he should get the job, to be honest if he shows significant progress he should probably also get the job.

Absolutely not.

Much better managers will be available in the summer.

 

Why recruit a Technical Director if he's unable to bring his own head coach in?

We as a fanbase constantly bemoan our ownership for thinking short-term and making impulsive decisions, we should be relieved that Rowett is only on a 6 month contract and won't be extended.

[dillonpanthers87]

23 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Absolutely not.

Much better managers will be available in the summer.

 

Why recruit a Technical Director if he's unable to bring his own head coach in?

We as a fanbase constantly bemoan our ownership for thinking short-term and making impulsive decisions, we should be relieved that Rowett is only on a 6 month contract and won't be extended.

It depends I think. I do understand the point. But, why hire a technical director who wants to play like Man City, when we don't have the players to do it, nor should we try to play that way. Let's have a manager who can actually manage, and motivate, and instil discipline first of all. Sick of hearing about philosophies (not aimed at your post) when the basics have been missing for so long, and that starts from the ground up, not top down, in my opinion.

[LCFCJohn]

5 hours ago, BrilliantFox said:

Absolutely not.

Much better managers will be available in the summer.

 

Why recruit a Technical Director if he's unable to bring his own head coach in?

We as a fanbase constantly bemoan our ownership for thinking short-term and making impulsive decisions, we should be relieved that Rowett is only on a 6 month contract and won't be extended.

What’s your measure for better manager though? Someone who players the tippy tappy outdated crap?

 

If Rowett can win games, sort out the culture at the playing side of the club in terms of attitudes, develop us into being hard to beat again and defensively sound, I would argue those are critical to beyond our immediate/short term future. It would at least show he is a good fit for us.

 

You could bring someone in who is perceived to be a better manager but the reality is they just build upon the reasons we have been failing for many years. The style of play and soft culture attached to it is one of the reasons in my view.

 

It’s a balancing act and I’m not saying you’re wrong. But the best manager on paper isn’t always the best fit.

[Claudio Fannieri]

16 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I wouldn’t say it’s unwarranted but certainly yes, Vesty is both a better defender and footballer than Okoli. 
 

EDIT: I think most were just fed up of Faes and Vesty playing below par and thought Okoli would excel and develop in the championship.

 

He was highly rated and performed well at Atalanta in a 3. 

It just goes to show how poor how recruitment has been when we scout and sign a player who is better in a 3 and is a bombscare in possession and we sign him to play in a flat back 4 and a team trying to play like Man City …….and we wonder why we are in the mess we are in 🤣

[ronnup]

Statement win tonight. Ruthless and organised. Taking chances and a clean sheet.

 

4-0 Boro 

[The Doctor]

10 hours ago, Gazza M said:

Find it bizarre we won the league playing some of the most exciting football on the break. 30-40% possession. Why that couldn't stay as our signature way of playing I dont know. 

how did we do the following season where more teams camped in against us? your answer is in there - can't break against low blocks

[Gamble92]

2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

how did we do the following season where more teams camped in against us? your answer is in there - can't break against low blocks

We didn't try and play the same way the next season and we didn't have Kante. 

 

Ranieri completely and utterly lost the plot and despite the bullshit about him not deserving the sack, he absolutely did. 

[teblin]

Just now, Gamble92 said:

We didn't try and play the same way the next season and we didn't have Kante. 

 

Ranieri completely and utterly lost the plot and despite the bullshit about him not deserving the sack, he absolutely did. 

We'd have gone down that year if he's have stayed i'm sure of it.

[The Doctor]

4 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

We didn't try and play the same way the next season and we didn't have Kante. 

 

Ranieri completely and utterly lost the plot and despite the bullshit about him not deserving the sack, he absolutely did. 

we tried to, but again - can't play effective counters when teams don't commit as much against you. Ranieri tried to do a like for like replacement between Kante and Amartey as a mobile player who liked a tackle. That this is like replacing a Bugatti with a reliant robin because "they're both cars" is what did for him.

[RumbleFox]

Looks like that dad at the school gate who doesn’t look like anything at all and you’re sure isn’t as clever as you but works offshore and earns £100k a year and everyone seems to like him more than you. For that reason it’s a no from me. 

[Gamble92]

4 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

we tried to, but again - can't play effective counters when teams don't commit as much against you. Ranieri tried to do a like for like replacement between Kante and Amartey as a mobile player who liked a tackle. That this is like replacing a Bugatti with a reliant robin because "they're both cars" is what did for him.

What annoyed me is the subsequent a years after. It become such a lazy analysis for years that when Vardy didn't have space in behind he doesn't score and when he does, he does. 

 

No one even bothered updating their punditry notes on us for a decade. 

 

 

[Chrysalis]

16 hours ago, Gazza M said:

Find it bizarre we won the league playing some of the most exciting football on the break. 30-40% possession. Why that couldn't stay as our signature way of playing I dont know. 

Really loved that season, our counters were brilliant.

[brookfox]

6 hours ago, RumbleFox said:

Looks like that dad at the school gate who doesn’t look like anything at all and you’re sure isn’t as clever as you but works offshore and earns £100k a year and everyone seems to like him more than you. For that reason it’s a no from me. 

Didn’t know you felt that way, will get you added to the Dads WhatsApp group 👍

[coolhandfox]

Really want a manager to to be successful enough to be around for 2 to 3 years.

 

I know he not everyones cup of tea but I'd like someone just to stop the merry go round of looking for a manager.

 

Since 22/23 we have had Rodgers, Smith, Maresca, Cooper, RVN and Marti.

 

 

Edited 24 February by coolhandfox

[Blue.Fox84]

I hope it works out for him 

 

I can see the potential, whether we stay up or relegated I think he could be the best person that we have in charge. His managerial record is steady, defensive minded which is something that we’ve been awful with for years, previous connection to the club and feels as if he’s got a bit of shithousery/no nonsense about him 

 

We all know that whoever takes over was going to be dealt a shit pack of cards but I think he’s someone given time can help clear out and help rebuild 

[whoareyaaa]

2 hours ago, Blue.Fox84 said:

I hope it works out for him 

 

I can see the potential, whether we stay up or relegated I think he could be the best person that we have in charge. His managerial record is steady, defensive minded which is something that we’ve been awful with for years, previous connection to the club and feels as if he’s got a bit of shithousery/no nonsense about him 

 

We all know that whoever takes over was going to be dealt a shit pack of cards but I think he’s someone given time can help clear out and help rebuild 

It all depends on if the players want to play for him and the fans (and there wages), hopefully they do and he can keep us up.

 

50/50

 

Still think up to Charlton are the teams in the mix, not just West Brom.

Edited 24 February by whoareyaaa

[filthyfox]

2 points out of 6....  SACK HIM NOW!

[ACF]

We are so much better under him. Shame it took so long to hire him.

[dmayne7]

Been said enough but how often will it be said again, if we'd appointed him when we should have done, we'd definitely stay up

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

He’s got us fighting and running. Could easily have won, bringing Ayew on was a huge error though 

[SecretPro]

Clearly got us playing with some passion  

 

Not liking those subs though. Gary, listen to me, this is for your own good: pretend Jordan Ayew doesn't exist. Please. Please.

[Hamilton Fox]

Massive improvement in effort tonight, and haven’t won because of sloppy mistakes at the back again

[brookfox]

Well he’s got us fighting if nothing else, still in a very dodgy position but given us hope. Scandalous he could’ve been in weeks ago and we might not even be in quite the mess we’re in.

[Spiritwalker]

He’s definitely improved us.