Rot started when

[Plastik Man]

1 hour ago, mod hero said:

Players don't give a shit:                            100%

[Arkie Bennett]

14 December 2019, when Norwich ended our 8-match winning streak and every opponent thereafter knew we were extremely vulnerable to the high press. 

[foxinsocks]

signing ryan bennett

[Patrick]

The rot began when Brendan Rodgers arrived. Aiyawatt allowed him free reign to tear up the philosophy of the club that had been built by capable people such as Pearson and Walsh over many years. The 'success' under his management was built on a pile of sand of completely reckless spending and has led to the mess we're in now.

[Twitcher]

36 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

He was hounded out,while we were halfway in div 1

Went downhill immediately after.

[Phil Mitchell]

The first game back after Covid, Watford away when Nige was their boss. Last minute Dawson equaliser, a slow descent followed and then as soon as Kasp left, it nosedived. Phil

[CL Fox]

Its been said but its when Top took over. Vichai didn't have much of a clue but he at least knew how to fire people and was interested. 

[Hammo]

Top not having the guts to sack Rodgers at least a year before he should have done - then failing to spot the sabotage that ensued.

[MattFox]

Hiring Claude Puel 

 

cheap and lazy appointment at a time when we were desirable 

[trooky]

We wasted the money from the league win with some pretty shocking signings,  but the rot started May '21 when we finished 5th again. 

 

We had an un-sustainable wage bill without champions league football and have been in decline ever since. 

 

The summer of 24 was especially shocking with some terrible decisions by Topkin with the appointment of Cooper, signing Ayew, Skipp, BDR, Okoli and BEK with money we don't have. 

 

That summer sealed out fate with relegation to league 1 and possible administration. 

Edited 18 April by trooky

[Product of 84]

Should we have saw out the season with Cooper? And should we have saw out this season with Cifuentes? 

 

Has the pursuit for better managers caused further rot?

[Walshie is God]

Rot started 2022 if not earlier

[Jaspa]

Monochrome crests on the kit

[Hamilton Fox]

When vichai died

[atomicfox]

If we're talking this season, the failure to get a proven manager in early and not signing a centre forward, longer term not sacking Rodgers earlier.

[dylanlegend]

4 hours ago, Soar Fox said:

When we let Schmeichel go. Not only losing an incredible goalkeeper we also lost our last genuine remaining leader who had very high standards. 

We would never be in this mess if we didnt let kasper go, or at least replaced him with a reasonably competent keeper

[Dan]

5 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

Although we had the FA Cup to show for it short term and European football, I'd say the rot properly started when we gave Rodgers the long contract when Arsenal were reported to be sniffing.

 

Giving him the control was the beginning of the end as his transfers were mostly terrible, Rudkin's luck had started to run out and Top had started to undo his Dad's work.

 

The way we caved in on that Rodgers contract. He was never going to Arsenal. We put ourselves on the back foot as a club. Started acting like a small club.

 

Now we've got to a point where people think we should be rolling over for bang average Championship players like Harry Winks. We became submissive as a club.

[EnglishOxide]

When we bottled finishing in the Prem top 4 two years in a row. As soon as that happened alarm bells should have been ringing. The FA Cup win masked the danger signs of a weak footballing mentality. Under Pearson/Shakey/Walsh we were never bottlers. 

 

Losing to Spurs with two stoppage time goals should have been a sackable offence for the manager. 

 

A real leader at the club who understands football (Pearson) would have been proactive about sorting this shit out and not giving shit players big contracts (Rudkin). 

Edited 18 April by EnglishOxide

[sylofox]

5 hours ago, huddersfieldfox said:

Does anyone have a genuine opinion when the rot started. I'm not asking for years back because I genuinely thought we would go back up this season but its now looking like it's the opposite. 

What changed the players mindset, when did the rot start to creep in and why are our players so weak mentally and physically 

The rot set in with Rodgers after the FA cup win.

 

As for this season I said from the start we would go down if the points deduction put us in the fight.

 

This lot don't have a pair of bollox between them for a fight. The most gutless team I've ever seen. I go back to 74.

 

I can't and won't back against us. But being honest I should have put hundreds on us going down I was that certain these cvnts would take us down.

[dannythefox]

5 hours ago, huddersfieldfox said:

Does anyone have a genuine opinion when the rot started. I'm not asking for years back because I genuinely thought we would go back up this season but its now looking like it's the opposite. 

What changed the players mindset, when did the rot start to creep in and why are our players so weak mentally and physically 

When we signed Perez for 30m that was the start for me.

[Beachyboy]

4 hours ago, Tuna said:

Pretty sure the OP wants discussion about why we have had such a bad season, this season specifically 

This season it's the points deduction, sacking of Cifuentes and collapse against Southampton. Nobody even spoke about a relegation battle before those 3 things, we were chasing glory and the premiership unaware we could actually get worse. I'd be interested to know whether RVN would of stayed on the championship, we wasted 5 months between about March last year and August before we got Cifuentes in. At the start of the season we weren't really playing well but picked up some points thanks to individual moments from James and Fatawu. 

[Spanner73]

Aiyawatt took over - nothing more ! 

[I am an Ostrich]

Wilf, we miss him terribly this season

[Steve Earle]

January 2020. 
 

We were the 3rd best team in the country. Cracks were starting to show with injuries.

 

We needed 1, possibly 2 good signings to lift the squad & add depth.

 

We signed Ryan Bennett on loan, & finished 5th.

[Lambert09]

The rot was always there, the mould was slowly growing and was always going to take over. The earliest clear evidence that we were not a professional club was the Adrian Silva 14seconds. I’m not sure anyone truly understood the level of idiocy needed to allow that situation to happen. You don’t get that at league 2 clubs. 
 

The good people at the club were slowly leaving for a long period of time with standards slipping consistently.  People look at it as what amazing success we had rather than the humongous missed opportunities we had due to horrific behind the scenes management.