Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[Katy]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

It can't come as any surprise if so. How many managers have gone on record as saying the same, you do your due diligence. What I find staggering is how these managers buy what Top and Rudkin say, having heard Top communicate sparingly and what we are led to believe about Rudkin, neither would instil massive confidence (IMO) on what the project looks like. 

 

His reputation has taken a hit but i'm amazed he's come here under these circumstances. Going to be interesting to hear what he says in the coming weeks.

 

 

Well exactly, unless he’s not been paying attention all this time. I actually judge him even more harshly than I did before for coming here, he’s insane because no one in their right mind should manage us under this regime. The coming weeks/months will be interesting for sure. 

[Fox92]

14 minutes ago, filbertway said:

It would take the most basic of research to know what financial state we're in. Someone in the game would have access to people with extra insight as well.

 

Also the guy spent around 35m last summer on a Rangers squad that already had a huge advantage over the rest of the league.

 

He then couldn't wait to tell everyone that the players were struggling with pressure when his awful football was immediately found out by teams with a 10th of Rangers budget.

It seems to be the defence of all managers on here once they are found out. It was rolled out for Cifuentes "he's been lied too" etc. I've always said the same thing as you and that these managers aren't idiots, they will be aware of the mess we are in.

[winteriscoming]

Baffles me that the last 4 managers we’ve had haven’t lasted a whole season yet we give Martin a 3 year contract. 
 

[FoxinNotts]

2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Baffles me that the last 4 managers we’ve had haven’t lasted a whole season yet we give Martin a 3 year contract. 
 

What length of contract do you suggest we should give out to tempt a prospective new manger to manage us?

[winteriscoming]

6 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

What length of contract do you suggest we should give out to tempt a prospective new manger to manage us?

Not 3. 
Put it another way what has Martin achieved to deserve a 3 year contract? 
As we are in a financial mess and still more than likely still paying the other 4 managers off. 
A rolling 1 year contract or 2 years. 
Try and protect ourselves from financial ruin. Although I’m sure we’re not far off that. 
I would have rather we had gone with a young up and coming coach than going with someone like Martin. 



 

[FoxinNotts]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Not 3. 
Put it another way what has Martin achieved to deserve a 3 year contract? 
As we are in a financial mess and still more than likely still paying the other 4 managers off. 
A rolling 1 year contract or 2 years. 
Try and protect ourselves from financial ruin. Although I’m sure we’re not far off that. 
I would have rather we had gone with a young up and coming coach than going with someone like Martin. 



 

We're not an attractive proposition. Managers just aren't going to want to come here. As much as I didn't want RM, the club clearly did, so to get him, they have to give him a good contract. We're in a desperate position due to our mis management by KP.

[PageSZN]

4 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Not 3. 
Put it another way what has Martin achieved to deserve a 3 year contract? 
As we are in a financial mess and still more than likely still paying the other 4 managers off. 
A rolling 1 year contract or 2 years. 
Try and protect ourselves from financial ruin. Although I’m sure we’re not far off that. 
I would have rather we had gone with a young up and coming coach than going with someone like Martin. 



 

He's got a promotion on his CV from the championship. He also has technically never been relegated either.

He's a decent coup for League 1 and Top admires him clearly. It is what it is, but I doubt someone like RM would drop to league 1 unless he got paid good money and got insurances on having a budget for transfers + not being fired if it doesn't start well.

[LCFCCHRIS]

Not saying he will see out his 3 years, but it is commonplace for managers to get these sort of terms. Any less than 3 he'd turn his nose up and just ride the rangers sacking money, or wait for another club. 

[winteriscoming]

2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

We're not an attractive proposition. Managers just aren't going to want to come here. As much as I didn't want RM, the club clearly did, so to get him, they have to give him a good contract. We're in a desperate position due to our mis management by KP.

I understand what you’re saying but I think we could have got a younger potentially up and coming coach with a youth background. 
As someone else mentioned on here look at recent sides promoted from league 1 and experience isn’t essential. Skubula, Mousinho, McKenna and Schumacher prove that. 
Someone like Paddy McCarthy would have been a good choice imo. 
We desperately needed a Pearson type appointment instead we’ve hired Mr ego. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, LCFCCHRIS said:

Not saying he will see out his 3 years, but it is commonplace for managers to get these sort of terms. Any less than 3 he'd turn his nose up and just ride the rangers sacking money, or wait for another club. 

He wouldn't have got another club though. No one else is obsessed with this outdated possession style like we are.

[Foxin_Mad]

Im baffled as Okoli's agent is saying he is waiting for the club to respond and he has offers, what are they ****ing about at. For most of these players id take 10 quid, its got to be better than having them around stinking the place out and paying their wages. 

[FoxinNotts]

6 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I understand what you’re saying but I think we could have got a younger potentially up and coming coach with a youth background. 
As someone else mentioned on here look at recent sides promoted from league 1 and experience isn’t essential. Skubula, Mousinho, McKenna and Schumacher prove that. 
Someone like Paddy McCarthy would have been a good choice imo. 
We desperately needed a Pearson type appointment instead we’ve hired Mr ego. 

RM wouldn't have been my choice, either.

[lcfc sheff]

Hes got a horrible job to deal with here. I’ve got no doubts the deadweights will be here till deadline day, sold or loaned out and then a whole load of players come in who are either our 2nd/3rd options but also not has the benefit of a full preseason.

 

how is he supposed to implement anything?

[coolhandfox]

4 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

He wouldn't have got another club though. No one else is obsessed with this outdated possession style like we are.

Rangers also gave him a 3 year contract 

[ceebeefox]

5 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

Not 3. 
Put it another way what has Martin achieved to deserve a 3 year contract? 
As we are in a financial mess and still more than likely still paying the other 4 managers off. 
A rolling 1 year contract or 2 years. 
Try and protect ourselves from financial ruin. Although I’m sure we’re not far off that. 
I would have rather we had gone with a young up and coming coach than going with someone like Martin. 



 

To be fair you can’t get much younger than Martin else it’s a player manager! And he may not be up, but he’s coming, in fact he’s here!

[Bablemikey]

If he's questioning the professionalism and ability of some of the squad I can't wait to hear how he feels about the board-level management as he gets to know them. That's gonna blow his socks off I would imagine. And not in a good way either.

[Corky]

9 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

My only hope is given they have finally secured the manager they have been chasing for so long, that they actually listen to him and back him as required. If he is calling out poor standards then they have to help him by moving on the bad eggs. 

Their crap football philosophy and lazy approach has led to poor choices but, notwithstanding that, it also it allows the players to continually act unprofessionally without real consequence. It has to change at some point.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Rangers also gave him a 3 year contract 

And? He got chased out the stadium after about 6 weeks, hence my comment.

[teblin]

Maybe he knew he'd have some good younger players to work with and he was confident he could get them going 

[DennisNedry]

Just me who sometimes goes 2 or 3 days forgetting that we've appointed this twat and then have a sinking feeling when they remember?

[coolhandfox]

5 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

And? He got chased out the stadium after about 6 weeks, hence my comment.

You said he wouldn't get any other club, well 2 have given him a job in the last 12 months us and Rangers.

 

There's definitely other that would be just as crazy as us and Rangers.

Edited Wednesday at 22:17 by coolhandfox

[BillyFOX12]

13 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

He wouldn't have got another club though. No one else is obsessed with this outdated possession style like we are.

It's not just regular possession a la Maresca, its possession for possession's sake without any other plan.

 

It might work in League One but if we get promoted we need to shift him. His style only works when you're vastly superior to the opposition, otherwise the ball-fiddling at the back will continously gift goals against better teams.

Edited Wednesday at 22:09 by BillyFOX12

[murphy]

11 hours ago, DennisNedry said:

Just me who sometimes goes 2 or 3 days forgetting that we've appointed this twat and then have a sinking feeling when they remember?

I remember the relief last year when Martin signed for Rangers.

 

The fact that we have ended up with him anyway and at our lowest ebb in history seems unnecessarily cruel.

 

A bit like that scene in Marathon Man when Dustin Hoffman thinks he is being rescued, only to be bought back to his tormentors.

[teblin]

3 minutes ago, murphy said:

I remember the relief last year when Martin signed for Rangers.

 

The fact that we have ended up with him anyway and at our lowest ebb in history seems unnecessarily cruel.

 

A bit like that scene in Marathon Man when Dustin Hoffman thinks he is being rescued, only to be bought back to his tormentors.

We may have been better off with him last year. Not that I am keen that he is here. Guess we'll never know.

[ian__marshall]

Just been watching the recap of the 1st week of pre-season and I'll give him his dues, looks like Russ is putting them through their paces. I've been really critical of the teams fitness for a long while, but seeing the work they are putting in currently is giving me a lot of confidence that for once we won't be blowing out of our arses after 60 minutes. In fact, I'd say we may well end up being one of the fittest sides in the league.