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Buce

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18 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said:

I’m female. 

Blonde

and a mum. How many jokes do you think I have to endure. lol 

 

Yeah, but if you're blonde you won't understand them anyway.

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Vardinio'sCat

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11 hours ago, Benguin said:

I think you have a problem.

 

That's fine. Most of us English don't really see a problem, I only came across it because I started doing research on the famine, and came across the old traditon. Also I started to wonder why, after mother-in-law jokes, thick Paddy jokes probably were the most common joke format around.

 

Anyway my original post (which I managed to erase:() was much better written and more coherent, so what you read is a bashed out quick condensed version, but it doesn't really do the issue justice.

 

I'll do a separate thread to get this off the joke thread, anyway, I probably should have done that in the first instance.

 

 

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davieG

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http://www.laughfactory.com/jokes/national-jokes

 

Most nations are the butt of a joke to another country. I believe the Polish are the butt of being 'thick' to their neighbours.

 

China, Russia, and Poland venture to space. China says they'll go to Pluto because it's the farthest. Russia says they'll go to Jupiter because it's the biggest. Poland says they'll go to the Sun. Russia and China warn that they'll melt. They reply, "We'll go at night."

 

 

A worldwide survey was conducted by the UN. The only question asked was: "Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the food shortage in the rest of the world?" The survey was a huge failure. In Africa they didn't know what "food" meant. In Eastern Europe they didn't know what "honest" meant. In Western Europe they didn't know what "shortage" meant. In China they didn't know what "opinion" meant. In the Middle East they didn't know what "solution" meant. In South America they didn't know what "please" meant. And in the USA they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant.

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Vardinio'sCat

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10 hours ago, Beliall said:

@Vardinio'sCatas much as i think you are having the largest over reaction to anything posted on here ever (quite an accomplishment btw, well done) It would be rude of me to not reply after your long arse post that i didn't read entirely


Mate. these origins of the irish stereotype might be important to you, but no one on this planet thinks that about the irish now, certainly not me, and i know a fair whack of them myself, and wouldn't dream of holding in a good irish joke if one came to mind in their company. you're looking to defend a problem that doesn't exist. and you're not even Irish! 

People need to relax a bit sometimes and have a sense of humour. I called the irish thick in that joke. i didn't claim the entire nation was less than human, or (white n) 

jokes are jokes. if they insult a race or nation to the point of demeaning them , its not a joke. its a thinly veiled insult that no one on here would abide. 

what we have here are 2 different stereotypes. your example, that no one alive believes anymore, and mine, which no one truly believes ever but enjoys poking a little fun with. 


This conversation is closed now as far as i am concerned. you wont convince me to stop telling jokes about the irish, blondes, scots , christians, catholics, , gays as long as they are just fun and not demeaning..

ii shared something similar to this the other day. sexist and gay. shoot me 


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 No probs fella, as I said to Benguin, I should have started another thread (as you suggested in your first reply) if I wanted to engage with the subject, right at the start. I actually did a really nicely crafted reply last night, then erased it accidently and bashed out an inferior copy, which you have just read.

 

I think those kind of jokes are tired, and like with Izzy and the ginger jokes, they do get wearing.

 

I agree that I have mainly come across a misereable dick, but my essential point is sound. Apart from Mother-in-law jokes, why are thick Paddy jokes the most popular jokes in England?

 

Anyway, sorry that your joke was the one I saw, my reply really wasn't meant to be a personal attack on you, as I tried to explain. I never asked you to apologise, and you tell whatever jokes you like. All I was trying to explain is why I didn't like that kind of joke, even if I didn't explain myself very well.

 

Lets move on. Sorry I upset you.

 

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Vardinio'sCat

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8 hours ago, Buce said:

 

You guarantee? Based on what? I have first-hand experience that says you're wrong. My paternal family are all Irish and not one of them has a problem with Irish jokes that depict them as being a bit dim. All of them have the same self-depreciating humour that I have found is common in pubs all over Ireland, North and South. The only difference being that in the North, Paddy and Murphy are replaced by two Proddys or two Fenians, depending on which pub you're drinking in.

 

 

You ask if I know much about the Famine, then tell me to Google it? How fvcking patronising.

 

For the record, I have a good understanding of Irish history, including the Famine.

 

 

Practically all racial, cultural and national stereotypes stem from historical prejudice. The key word there is historical. The stereotype presented in Belial's joke of someone a bit slow on the uptake is nothing like the shambling, inarticulate, sub-human depicted in the Punch cartoon - to equate the two is ridiculous.

 

I can only suggest that if you are so determined to be offended on someone else's behalf by what everyone else sees as nothing more than gentle ribbing with no malice intended, it would probably be better if you avoided the joke thread in future.

 

Eek, sorry I have upset you, if I could go back and not say anything I would

 

Firstly it is 'the famine and the Punch cartoons' I was on about, not 'the famine' as such. I was researching the famine about 10 years ago, came across the cartoons, and started to understand that thick Paddy jokes came from a root which was pretty unpleasant, and I have felt differently about them since.

 

I've never heard any Irish person tell a thick paddy joke, and as you say, they would have another target. I have some cousins that would take a dim view of these jokes, but then I have so many cousins others would just find them funny, I guess.

 

I was going to do a separate thread to approach the subject in a less ham-fisted way, but I think I should just drop the subject entirely cos I'm just coming across badly. Oh well. I live and learn.

 

Apologies for upsetting you, see you round.

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Buce

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10 minutes ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

Eek, sorry I have upset you, if I could go back and not say anything I would

 

Firstly it is 'the famine and the Punch cartoons' I was on about, not 'the famine' as such. I was researching the famine about 10 years ago, came across the cartoons, and started to understand that thick Paddy jokes came from a root which was pretty unpleasant, and I have felt differently about them since.

 

I've never heard any Irish person tell a thick paddy joke, and as you say, they would have another target. I have some cousins that would take a dim view of these jokes, but then I have so many cousins others would just find them funny, I guess.

 

I was going to do a separate thread to approach the subject in a less ham-fisted way, but I think I should just drop the subject entirely cos I'm just coming across badly. Oh well. I live and learn.

 

Apologies for upsetting you, see you round.

 

You haven't upset me at all, mate, and for what it's worth you are usually one of my favourite posters.

 

And having the gonads to apologise sets you apart from most on here.

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Trav Le Bleu

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9 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

You haven't upset me at all, mate, and for what it's worth you are usually one of my favourite posters.

 

And having the gonads to apologise sets you apart from most on here.

Yeah, I too was surprised at the source of all this. lol

 

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The reason why Irish jokes are popular is because there are many jokes that rely on the subject being stupid. Now you can use an individual, like Joey Essex, but not everyone will get the reference and it’s not that funny because he actually is an idiot. So we take a known stereotype and play on it. It doesn’t matter if it is true or not it just relies on a known stereotype, Irish are thick, Scottish are tight, Welsh shag sheep, blondes are promiscuous and everybody’s mother in law is a nightmare. It’s just a means to facilitate a joke, obviously there is a past to the stereotype and it shouldn’t be assumed that nobody is offended.

 

So I propose as a substitute for Irish jokes we use Forest/Derby/Coventry fans, they’re just as funny:

 

How many potatoes does it take to kill a Forest fan?

 

None

 

:crylaugh: 

 

What do you call a Derby fan sitting on garden furniture?

 

Paddy O’furniture

 

:crylaugh::crylaugh:

 

2 Coventry fans were looking for work when the saw an advert: TREE FELLERS WANTED. The first Cov fan turns to the second and says. “It’s a shame der’s just de 2 of us”

 

:crylaugh::crylaugh::crylaugh: 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Captain... said:

 

 

2 Coventry fans were looking for work when the saw an advert: TREE FELLERS WANTED. The first Cov fan turns to the second and says. “It’s a shame der’s just de 2 of us”

 

:crylaugh::crylaugh::crylaugh: 

 

 

 

If it was Coventry fans, they wouldn't have been able to read the sign.

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 I messaged a relative of mine, a lovely girl (although a bit fierce), and a proud Irishwoman who lives in the UK. She takes a dim view of thick Paddy jokes in general, but she said this one is ok to pass on. So with permission...

 

 

 

 

"Paddy, what is your specialist subject?" 
"Irish History" 

"Paddy your minute starts now. Who was the leader of the 
Irish Revolution?" 
"Pass" 

"In what year was the revolution?" 
"Pass 

"How many men died during the Easter Revolution?" 
"Pass" 

"What was the name of the British informer who helped 
the rebels?" 
"Pass" 

All of a sudden his friend stood up in the audience and 
roared "Good man Paddy, tell the fvcking English nothing"

 

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Beliall

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6 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

 I messaged a relative of mine, a lovely girl (although a bit fierce), and a proud Irishwoman who lives in the UK. She takes a dim view of thick Paddy jokes in general, but she said this one is ok to pass on. So with permission...

 

 

 

 

"Paddy, what is your specialist subject?" 
"Irish History" 

"Paddy your minute starts now. Who was the leader of the 
Irish Revolution?" 
"Pass" 

"In what year was the revolution?" 
"Pass 

"How many men died during the Easter Revolution?" 
"Pass" 

"What was the name of the British informer who helped 
the rebels?" 
"Pass" 

All of a sudden his friend stood up in the audience and 
roared "Good man Paddy, tell the fvcking English nothing"

 

jesus man if you're gonna be a hypocrite at least be funny

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14 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said:

 

That's fine. Most of us English don't really see a problem, I only came across it because I started doing research on the famine, and came across the old traditon. Also I started to wonder why, after mother-in-law jokes, thick Paddy jokes probably were the most common joke format around.

 

Anyway my original post (which I managed to erase:() was much better written and more coherent, so what you read is a bashed out quick condensed version, but it doesn't really do the issue justice.

 

I'll do a separate thread to get this off the joke thread, anyway, I probably should have done that in the first instance.

 

 

There is a very interesting  book called The Invention of the White Race which describes British treatment of the Irish and how they played Catholics and Protestants against each other in an identical way to how they created a racial class divide in America.  Its no joke how the Irish were treated

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Trav Le Bleu

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20 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

There is a very interesting  book called The Invention of the White Race which describes British treatment of the Irish and how they played Catholics and Protestants against each other in an identical way to how they created a racial class divide in America.  Its no joke how the Irish were treated

:crylaugh::crylaugh::crylaugh:

 

Best joke yet!

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15 hours ago, Beliall said:

jesus man if you're gonna be a hypocrite at least be funny

 

Woosh. It is a variation that offers something to all sides, and is direct from an Irish gal, and she is allowed to play with the tradition, but any joke that needs explaining is a fail. C'est La Vie.

 

I don't think a career in stand-up beckons. I'll get my coat. :rolleyes::thumbup:lol

 

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