England v Algeria - Frid - ITV - 7.30

[shen]

I have never hailed him as he best thing since sliced bread.

He beat Andorra, Belarus and Kazakhstan and now it's getting serious, he is getting it completely wrong, he deserves criticism.

I didn't say you specifically did. But it's funny that you name the three weakest teams in your qualification group. Prior to the World Cup kicking off I only remember the "England 9 - 2 Croatia on aggregate" being made a meal of here.

[marbelladave]

Let's not forget the saintly Emile is one of these untouchables.

He is not a 'big 4' player so falls outside the definition of a proper 'untouchable'. However his time is clearly running out...

How do you expect Gerrard to perform on the left hand side?

Lampard should be dropped, he is an embarrassment.

Gerrard barely set foot on the left, the attacking threat, such as it was came from Cashley and Barry did most of the defensive work. Mostly he played centrally, alongside Rooney and behind Heskey and unlike in the qualifiers it did nor work.

Anyway he played the deeper central role against the US and was complete bobbins in that game as well. Whatever his accomplishments for his club he is a liability at international level, as is Lampard and on current form Rooney.

[Samilktray]

That was really awful to watch.

No passion or commitment to the shirt... nothing.

Heskey gives us nothing, Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Lennon... nothing on the night.

Just so drab and uninspiring.

Rooney and Gerrard on Wednesday please, Heskey will do nothing for us no matter what anyone say,s

[StanSP]

Heskey did more than most players tonight.

[BlueSi13]

After recent heartaches, disappointments, strops, underachievement, fear, ignorance and arrogance at the heart of the England starting eleven during the 21st century along with Rooneys and James' comments this evening, does anybody else feel that there is a big possibility of a "divorce" between the team and the country (fans) .......

As lets be honest here, we follow the three lions everywhere with numbers most other nations could only dream about, but do we actually "love" them anymore? unlike like times as recent as the 1998 World Cup, Beckham aside of course....

[MC Prussian]

Who wouldn't cut their hands off for a month-long, millions of £-heavy holiday in South Africa in 2010?

I feel sorry for all the England fans who were watching the game at a pub, at home or on location inside the stadium.

I also feel sorry for players like Barry, Heskey or Carragher who actually tried to make something happen and who ran their socks off for the shirt.

That was pathetic and the team doesn't play as one and has to answer a few questions.

Why do Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard or Terry never live up to the expectations comes World Cup time?

Why is it that Lampard can't do with Gerrard in midfield?

Why was Ashley Cole left out of attacks on the flanks on a regular basis? He was asking for passes, but they never came.

Why does Joe Cole rot on the bench?

Why substituting underperformers so late in the game?

Are Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard or Terry untouchable?

Why does Capello more and more remind me of Raymond Domenech who has, coincidentally, lost all his players' trust in the past few years?

They thought it'd be a walk in the park. But the majority of the English players don't seem to give two cents about winning. It's all about partaking, eh?

I was so looking forward to you guys displaying brilliant football, dominating the game, but this is just so disappointing. There is no cohesion, no will to distribute the ball to open players, no communication.

Just a bunch of overpaid, lazy brats who then have the indecency to complain about being booed by their own fans.

You need players who want to be there representing the country - I don't think the majority of today's English starting eleven had that on their mind.

You need a fresh start with new faces, people who do it for the sake of it, for the love of football. Back to basics. These lads won't do no more.

It appears they've been told too many times that they're the creme de la creme - and they actually believe it.

Multi-million £ sponsoring deals, the newest Porsche, the latest WAG and yellow press headlines are more worth it, isn't it?

The convincing WC qualifying stages were just pulling a wool over everybody's eyes.

[nuneatonfox]

Tommorows team 4-3-3

R. Green

G. Johnson

A. Cole

J. Terry

S. Wright Phillips

S. Gerrard

E. Heskey

J. Defoe

P. Crouch

Bench:

D.James,J.Hart,M.Upson,S.Warnock,G.Barry,M.Carrick,F.Lampard,A.Lennon,J.Milner,W.Rooney.

[Benji]

What a load of dog shite that was.

I'm not going to critique what's right or wrong with the team or tactics, i'm not being paid millions (with a potential multi-million pound pay-off for failure) to sort these wasters out and i'm not going to pretend i can walk into the job and make that team win the world cup. But three things:

- Heskey has been one of the few, if not only, respectable players so far. But his inclusion, through no fault of his own, completely inhibits the team. When you have Gerrard, Lampard and Barry in midfield, three of the best club players in the world, you can't keep lumping the ball up above their heads.

- Rooney has just been an utter cock so far. If he's not fit enough, he should tell Capello and Crouch and Defoe (club partnership/experience together) could have done the job tonight. If he is fit, he obviously doesnt care about the shirt he's wearing because he didnt show an ounce of passion or energy he shows for united, no chasing around like a headless chicken, no encouraging the team, no tireless runs, mis-controls, pass back shots and a gobby mouth. Let's hope he can pull out something special from now on.

- Also, listening to Capello in the interview after, how the fook does that man instil anything into the players before the game or at half time? The man can't speak English, he can hardly put a sentence together at times, does he have a translator in the dressing room? Reputation says he's clearly a great manager, but if he talks like that to the team then fk knows how they know what he's talking about.

[MPH]

This. Scotland instead!

I would rather not qualify than struggle and get humiliated by minor teams on a World stage.

I notice you bring this comment in after the 2 games. I am sure before the USA game you were wishing scotland had qualified

[Narborough_fox]

I notice you bring this comment in after the 2 games. I am sure before the USA game you were wishing scotland had qualified

I do but I don't as my friends are all English I like it being a neutral and not being obnoxious about the World Cup like a lot of you did in Euro 2008, all the football looks better however after a while it is a time of getting annoyed at not qualifying for 14 years. As long as we give it all (of which i feel we didn't this year) in qualifying I would be happy.

[Guest Bilo]

Nothing constructive to be said because for something constructive, you need something to build on in the first place.

There was nothing to build on. That 'performance' had no positives. Save yourselves by staying away from TVs, radios and computers between the hours of 2pm and 6pm next Wednesday. The World Cup campaign is as good as over in spite of us being granted a group that should have been as good as a bye. How the hell would we have coped in Germany's group? We'd have been out mathematically by now. As it is, we're out psychologically and don't really have a moral right to progress after that. Frankly, we'll only embarrass ourselves if we do fluke our way into the last 16.

Roll on the pre-season friendlies.

[Koke]

After the game me & my girlfriend got into the car and we put 606 on, and she said to me "cue the overreactions". And how right she was.

I will say a few things though.

1. I don't think the players respect Capello. I think they fear him. And when you fear someone in authority you are not able to perform your job to the best of your abilities. The players know if they make a howler, they will be dropped. The fear factor is sucking the life out of the players performances.

2. Some of these guys need to have a hard look in the mirror. Fans in general will ALWAYS forgive a lack of ability, but will never forgive a lack of effort. There was no effort or application out there tonight. Gareth Barry is the only one who can come away with his reputation still intact.

3. We are and have never been any better than a Quarter Final team. We will go through and we will perhaps even beat whoever we face in the last 16, but the quarter finals is the farthest these lot will get.

[Salieri]

It's still in our hands and i still reckon we'll win our final game and qualify.

Thus prolonging the agony to an inevitable penalty shoot-out defeat in the quarters.

Or am i just being over optimistic?

[Koke]

It's still in our hands and i still reckon we'll win our final game and qualify.

Thus prolonging the agony to an inevitable penalty shoot-out defeat in the quarters.

Or am i just being over optimistic?

I think there has been a big overreaction. I know this has been the worst performance since losing to Northern Ireland in Belfast, but despite the abject display we will still get through, but as always the quarter finals is our limitation. We are a Quarter Final team. We are no better than that.

I think the expectations does not equal the talent at disposal.

[Matt]

I'm pissed. (Why do I always think I have to put that as a disclaimer....and how come I don't type like this: 'enhland are shipote'...when i'm pissed? Not pissed enough or just bothered to correct myself!? OR not 'cool' enough?)

Anyway, one word; Awful.

We don't even deserve to be in this World Cup.

[Bugg]

We don't even deserve to be in this World Cup.

Well we do don't we? We were by far the best team in our group in qualifying. What you should be saying is that after that performance we shouldn't deserve to progress.

[Mikey]

Shit performance.

Defence was untroubled. Gerrard was our best performer other than the defence imo.

[DB11]

Shit performance.

Defence was untroubled. Gerrard was our best performer other than the defence imo.

Like you said, the defence had nothing to do so how could they be the best performers

Although I thought James looked commanding etc.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Carragher was our best player tonight, by some way, and I can't stand the man.

Joe Cole has to start against Slovenia.

And, although he's been a complete shower of shit, and, on tonight's evidence, a complete helmet, Rooney CANNOT be dropped.

[wc-remix]

That performance actually made ours vs Germany look not to bad.

[Ozwin]

Barry was our best player by far, everyone else was gutless, if Leicester put in a performance like that we'd be absolutely fuming. Even in the Levein days we put in more heart than England did tonight.

[Brainy]

I'm pissed. Not pissed enough

We don't even deserve to be in this World Cup.

contradiction.

[lcfc_jme]

lol lol lol

That, in all honesty, was superb to watch. England had no cutting edge, no invention, no creativity, nothing. The expectation of everyone in the pub for England to completely overwhelm Algeria was funny, and the racist comments behind me from 80 mins onwards were even better.

England got exactly what they deserved - absolutely fu ck shit all. They're an average side who seemingly care none about the shirt and just go through the motions, blatantly not helped by the sickening and delusional over-hyping and rimming they get from the national media, and resultant over-expectation from blinkered, uber-patriotic fans. And then for me pointing this out, I'm asked mockingly both on Facebook and in the pub how Germany got on today?! I mean, the Germans have scored 4, conceded the same amount as England and have a point more, and at least they've won a game. Sucks to be them, huh??

I understand why people want England to do well and will them on so much, but to not admit their short-comings and to laugh at other teams' failings before getting their own house in order is one of the main reasons I always enjoy their inevitable failure.

**Cue inevitable biting and blinkered, biased, reactionary nonsense**

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

[lcfc_jme]

Cheers.

Here, I'll try this:

Oh ffs!!! That was fcking shit God it's all Heskey's fault the crap twat. Still, we'll definitely win our next game comfortably, qualify top of the group and go on to win the tournament, 'cos we're England.