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The "do they mean us?" thread

By jonthefox, in Leicester City Forum

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NewquayFox

NewquayFox

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What a wonderful few days it has been here in the heartland of Manchester United supporters.....

Newquay, Cornwall..... ;0)

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Miquel The Work Geordie

Miquel The Work Geordie

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Show a little class is exactly right.

 

To be fair most of the United fans I know in person have been fairly gracious. Obviously a little wound up with the pen but that's understandable.  There's just a lot of morons on the internet

 

That's the case with me, too. I lived with two lads from Salford and one from Leigh in my first year at uni, all huge Yanited fans and all of whom I keep in contact with. Obviously they were peeved with the penalty decision but don't feel the game was lost in that moment - they saw nothing wrong with our other four goals either, and gave us the credit we were due.

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LanguedocFox

LanguedocFox

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Exactly! Why would you want to call the side who just clouted your own a pub side?

 

Re: glory grabbing - as we were putting the last 3 goals past them and I was losing my mind in a good way, I started to realise that you could only experience such heights of emotion as a spectator from following a club that meant something to you. A glory grabber will never know what that game felt like to us, for at least a couple of reasons. One is that there is no real connection between themselves and the club. I normally pick a side to root for whenever I watch a match as a neutral. Feels good when they do well, but it's nothing compared to a goal for Leicester. I understand that it would mean more to me if I picked that same team all the time, but it would still pale in comparison.

 

The other reason is that glory supporters always expect their side to win, so it's no big deal when they do. A plastic Man Utd fan can see his team win the Champions League, and not even feel half as overjoyed as a true Fleetwood Town fan does seeing his team reach the Football League. Evidently, the lows still affect glory hunters pretty badly. It's the worst of both worlds - you're numb to the highs and the lows are made all the worse because of the huge expectations.

 

You have to be a special kind of stupid to be a glory grabber. Expecting to win everything takes all of the joy out of being a supporter. It's very much the same as how scoring in basketball means nothing compared to a goal in football. The team is expected to score every time they go up the other end of the court, so when it happens, no-one is bothered. I'm willing to bet the inventor thought something along the lines of, "People like scoring, so let's make it easy to score so it happens more often. More scoring = more enjoyment." Doesn't work that way. Gold is valuable because it rare. If it was everywhere, we would value it as much as we value dirt.

 

Picking some random big club to follow is a terrible idea for so many reasons. Some others include; you will never see them play live, tickets are expensive, and you're helping to kill the sport. You're robbing your local club of a supporter, and instead giving money to the already bloated fat cats at the top. And for what?

 

 

I've been trying to explain to people over the past couple of days just how I feel - given that I have not lived in Leicestershire for nearly 50 years, and even when I did live there, I was in Loughborough. This post sums it all up: why I was screaming like a banshee at the television on Sunday afternoon, why I was dancing round like an incontinent three-year old during the penalties, why I was almost in tears at the end watching the scenes at the ground. 

 

If I were a Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City fan, I'd have seen loads of matches where we came back from two down, I'd have seen them score five goals plenty of times. But I'd never have felt that sense of joy that I had on Sunday - and which I still have.

 

We live for days like that. We've suffered the sh!te of the past ten years for days like that. We've raged at manager after manager, player after player, as they betrayed our support - for days like that. Most Man U fans - most people in fact - will never know the feeling. Poor fvckers.

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Dan

Dan

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Exactly! Why would you want to call the side who just clouted your own a pub side?

 

Re: glory grabbing - as we were putting the last 3 goals past them and I was losing my mind in a good way, I started to realise that you could only experience such heights of emotion as a spectator from following a club that meant something to you. A glory grabber will never know what that game felt like to us, for at least a couple of reasons. One is that there is no real connection between themselves and the club. I normally pick a side to root for whenever I watch a match as a neutral. Feels good when they do well, but it's nothing compared to a goal for Leicester. I understand that it would mean more to me if I picked that same team all the time, but it would still pale in comparison.

 

The other reason is that glory supporters always expect their side to win, so it's no big deal when they do. A plastic Man Utd fan can see his team win the Champions League, and not even feel half as overjoyed as a true Fleetwood Town fan does seeing his team reach the Football League. Evidently, the lows still affect glory hunters pretty badly. It's the worst of both worlds - you're numb to the highs and the lows are made all the worse because of the huge expectations.

 

You have to be a special kind of stupid to be a glory grabber. Expecting to win everything takes all of the joy out of being a supporter. It's very much the same as how scoring in basketball means nothing compared to a goal in football. The team is expected to score every time they go up the other end of the court, so when it happens, no-one is bothered. I'm willing to bet the inventor thought something along the lines of, "People like scoring, so let's make it easy to score so it happens more often. More scoring = more enjoyment." Doesn't work that way. Gold is valuable because it rare. If it was everywhere, we would value it as much as we value dirt.

 

Picking some random big club to follow is a terrible idea for so many reasons. Some others include; you will never see them play live, tickets are expensive, and you're helping to kill the sport. You're robbing your local club of a supporter, and instead giving money to the already bloated fat cats at the top. And for what?

 

:appl:

 

Well said.

 

Glory hunters are just poison to be quite honest. They benefit absolutely no-one, even themselves, and they don't even see that.

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Jordan

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Jamie Vardy was featured in The New York Times today:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/sports/soccer/jamie-vardy-scores-against-manchester-united-in-first-premier-league-start.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0&referrer= (Mobile link)

LONDON — Everywhere in the world, there are boys who dream the dream, only to have it kicked down before they become men.

At 16, Jamie Vardy was rejected after an apprenticeship at his local club in England, Sheffield Wednesday. He was told he was too small for the rough-and-tumble of professional soccer, but looking back, it may have been a combination of his skinny build and his unreliable nature.

Aspiring players are “like turtles in the South Seas,” a former Manchester United winger, Steve Coppell, once said. “Thousands are hatched on the beaches, but few ever reach the water.”

Coppell was a rarity. He graduated with a degree in economics in his spare time while playing for one of the world’s most glamorous teams.

Vardy, at 16, had neither prospect. He was a lost, hurt and, by his own account, rebellious lad. A year later, he joined the reserves of a team called Stocksbridge Park Steels in the eighth tier of English soccer. He remembers the toughening-up process of being a kid who was kicked around by grown men.

From that small beginning, he grew. Now 5-foot-10, he is far from the short size of Lionel Messi, Maradona or Gianfranco Zola.

Vardy may not have their genius on the field, either. But he is quick and has an eye for the goal, and on the way back up the ladder toward fame and maybe fortune, he has been helped by other coaches who saw a spark in him.

On Sunday, Vardy was the player who ignited Leicester City’s comeback from a 3-1 deficit to beat Manchester United, 5-3. He shared the field with the likes of Ángel Di María, Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie, then scored the game-winner in front of a global TV audience. All this, in his first start in the Premier League at age 27.

Through a combination of speed and never-say-die spirit, he also contributed to the other four goals for Leicester. The likelihood is that United’s head coach, Louis van Gaal, had heard little, if anything, of Vardy before Sunday. Van Gaal’s summer had been preoccupied managing the Dutch to the World Cup semifinals and then spending $250 million on new players for Manchester.

But this is Vardy’s story, not United’s.

Way back when he was struggling to make a foothold — any foothold — in the game, Vardy made mistakes in life. He was sentenced to wear an electronic monitoring device and told not to go out at night after his part in a pub brawl.

Yet, deep down, he obviously desired to be a top player. It wasn’t about the money or the fame. Soccer was perhaps the one thing he could do better than most. He had basic speed and decent techniques, but what he needed was to rekindle his desires if he wanted to realize his potential.

He found enough men who would believe in his talent and work on his temperament. He would always be noticed because he scored goals — and there are coaches at every level who search for that skill, hoping to find someone in the lower tiers who might be able to transfer that talent to the top.

Leicester’s Nigel Pearson is such a coach.

Pearson must scour the world, be it Buenos Aires or north Sheffield, to find cut-rate bargains. While Leicester may be owned by Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, a Thai billionaire, the club’s budget is still far less than those of its bigger opponents.

So Pearson has had to shop where Manchester United would never look. This summer, he persuaded the owner to spend $13 million on Leonardo Ulloa, an Argentine whose journey through eight clubs in three countries took about the same time as Vardy’s slow rise up the English ladder.

The finest goal of Sunday’s remarkable match in Leicester was undoubtedly Di María’s with his surging run, an exchange of passes with Rooney and then a superb lob over the goalkeeper. The next best was Vardy’s sprint down the right and his measured cross for Ulloa’s thumping header into the net.

United’s problems, apart from defense, are excused by the fact that with so many new players, it needs time to gel. But Sunday was the first time that Vardy and Ulloa have played more than a few minutes together because Vardy has been battling a thigh injury since the start of this season.

Possibly their moment of sublime co-ordination was a one-off. Maybe Vardy’s first 75 minutes of Premier League action will prove his finest.

But Leicester is betting on something far more lasting. It recently revised Vardy’s contract, extending it to 2018. Management believes there is more to come from him, and that the player who took almost 12 years to ascend from rejection to the top tier of English soccer now has the desire, confidence and skill to be a regular pain in the side of Premier League millionaires.

On Monday, the Leicester players were given a day off and went to the local horse track. Vardy, by all accounts, is the life and noisy soul of the locker room. He is known as “cannon” because of his tendency to get into mischief. A player reclaimed from the scrap heap of discarded youth.

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Unabomber

Unabomber

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Don't think it's been mentioned yet, but the first 10 minutes of the Guardian Football Weekly Podcast (hosted by James Richardson of Football Italia fame) are all about us and the game against United, lots of nice things said about us.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/audio/2014/sep/22/football-weekly-podcast-leicester-manchester-united

3:15 in "Nigel Pearson is a great man"

 

:pearson:

 

Tell us something we don't know!

 

:nigel:

BoyJones

BoyJones

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United nearly scored from a Di Maria corner following a Di Maria shot went straight out for a goal kick. Nowhere near touching any city player.

Why no comment from The Red Cafe on this bit of cheating. If united had scored they would have taken the goal gladly.

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Mark_w

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Don't think it's been mentioned yet, but the first 10 minutes of the Guardian Football Weekly Podcast (hosted by James Richardson of Football Italia fame) are all about us and the game against United, lots of nice things said about us.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/audio/2014/sep/22/football-weekly-podcast-leicester-manchester-united

 

Great stuff.

 

Speaking of blogs, one has just gone up on Red Cafe, haven't listened yet but here it is anyway.

 

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/football-bloody-hell-podcast-episode-7-leicester-meltdown.396990/

 

Edit: Sounds like it's just tedious United shit sorry.

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Carl the Llama

Carl the Llama

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Great stuff.

 

Speaking of blogs, one has just gone up on Red Cafe, haven't listened yet but here it is anyway.

 

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/football-bloody-hell-podcast-episode-7-leicester-meltdown.396990/

 

Edit: Sounds like it's just tedious United shit sorry.

Sorry I tried listening but couldn't understand their indecipherable Mancunian accents.

 

/potkettleblack

Master Fox

Master Fox

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So tired of listening and reading such drivel about United and their god awful club, and how many more-billions they have to spend to drag their wretched club out of a relegation battle. I'm interested in how Leicester as an up and coming force can push into the top 6.

MC Prussian

MC Prussian

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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

 

When they start trying to take digs at things like the stadium and the attendance, you know that they're getting desperate. The reaction from this win has made it even better and even more satisfying.

Especially given the fact that out of the 7'000+ extra fans, there were additional United fans in a filled away end, as well.

 

But that blog sphere there is just a prime example of a place created for glory hunters and deluded followers with little to no sense for realism. They'd rather continue living in dreamland, maintaining and cherishing memories of times past. I know there's a fair amount of sarcasm in there somewhere, but I prefer not to touch it - you never know what's underneath.

Corky

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*Figure based on Leicester City’s average attendance of 24,994 last season and today’s attendance of 31,784

 

 

Crowds last season- Doncaster 31k, Nottingham Forest 30k, Brighton 29k, Ipswich 28k, Blackpool,QPR both 27k, Reading, Bolton, Middlesbrough, Yeovil, Sheff Weds all 26k.

 

So it's not 7k out of the woodwork, because that wasn't our highest attendance of last season pal. Oh, by the way, we've had 31k a few times before Sunday when out of the Premier League (even managing 30k for a match in League One).

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cambridgefox

cambridgefox

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Show a little class is exactly right.

 

To be fair most of the United fans I know in person have been fairly gracious. Obviously a little wound up with the pen but that's understandable.  There's just a lot of morons on the internet

  

That's the case with me, too. I lived with two lads from Salford and one from Leigh in my first year at uni, all huge Yanited fans and all of whom I keep in contact with. Obviously they were peeved with the penalty decision but don't feel the game was lost in that moment - they saw nothing wrong with our other four goals either, and gave us the credit we were due.

Same here,my mate also from Leigh phoned to congratulate me and wondered why I hadn't phoned him to take the p!ss,I said due to the result I didn't need to,and another who goes reckoned we deserved to win.
benpicko

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more drivel

they really are on another fooking planet !!

http://www.manutdfansblog.com/leicester-city-5-3-manchester-united/

 

 

 

The penalties won by Vardy have left a particularly sour taste in the mouth but looking at him in the grand scheme of things, he’ll never have another day like this again. Give it a year at best and he’ll be some forgotten no mark playing the second or third tier of professional football.

 

:kingy:  :kingy:  

 

How the **** can they even claim to know that? The only match they've probably ever seen him play is this one, and he was incredible in it

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