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The "do they mean us?" thread

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NotTheMarketLeader

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2 hours ago, Stan said:

A season is 38 games. After one full season at Southampton and three quarters of a season here, he's not been outside the top ten.

 

Whether he's right for us now is another question.

So you want to keep him do you? 

 

I’ll repeat in our last 19 games

we have 18pts.

 

Is your argument give another half a season? 

 

I really can’t imagine the basis on which you are attempting to argue a point of fact? 

 

Bar the new manager bounce in the first games when he arrived when he implemented his own tactics it’s been nothing short of disastrous.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Ashley said:

 

How many years ago? When the football league first stated and there wasn't many teams about? 

Do your homework..!! Before letting loose.

 

Not to go all the way back,but. 1920-21 Addition of the 3rd divisions North n South,

Not many Teams about,go to the corner young man,and behave yourself!!

Huddersfield right upto the modern ERA,had quite an enviable history.

 

England 1920-21 

League Division 1

 

  

Final Table:


                              P   W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A  Pts
 1. BURNLEY                  42  17  3  1  56  16   6 10  5  23  20   59
 2. Manchester City          42  19  2  0  50  13   5  4 12  20  37   54
 3. Bolton Wanderers         42  15  6  0  53  17   4  8  9  24  36   52
 4. Liverpool                42  11  7  3  41  17   7  8  6  22  18   51
 5. Newcastle United         42  14  3  4  43  18   6  7  8  23  27   50
 6. Tottenham Hotspur        42  15  2  4  46  16   4  7 10  24  32   47
 7. Everton                  42   9  8  4  40  26   8  5  8  26  29   47
 8. Middlesbrough            42  10  6  5  29  21   7  6  8  24  32   46
 9. Arsenal                  42   9  8  4  31  25   6  6  9  28  38   44
10. Aston Villa              42  11  4  6  39  21   7  3 11  24  49   43
11. Blackburn Rovers         42   7  9  5  36  27   6  6  9  21  32   41
12. Sunderland               42  11  4  6  34  19   3  9  9  23  41   41
13. Manchester United        42   9  4  8  34  26   6  6  9  30  42   40
14. West Bromwich Albion     42   8  7  6  31  23   5  7  9  23  35   40
15. Bradford City            42   7  9  5  38  28   5  6 10  23  35   39
16. Preston North End        42  10  4  7  38  25   5  5 11  23  40   39
17. Huddersfield Town        42  11  4  6  26  16   4  5 12  16  33   39
18. Chelsea                  42   9  7  5  35  24   4  6 11  13  34   39
19. Oldham Athletic          42   6  9  6  23  26   3  6 12  26  60   33
20. Sheffield United         42   5 11  5  22  19   1  7 13  20  49   30
21. DERBY COUNTY             42   3 12  6  21  23   2  4 15  11  35   26
22. BRADFORD PARK AVENUE     42   6  5 10  29  35   2  3 16  14  41   24

 

  

League Division 2
                              P   W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A  Pts
 1. BIRMINGHAM CITY          42  16  4  1  55  13   8  6  7  24  25   58
 2. CARDIFF CITY             42  13  5  3  27   9  11  5  5  32  23   58
 3. Bristol City             42  14  3  4  35  12   5 10  6  14  17   51
 4. Blackpool                42  12  3  6  32  19   8  7  6  22  23   50
 5. West Ham United          42  13  5  3  38  11   6  5 10  13  19   48
 6. Notts County             42  12  5  4  36  17   6  6  9  19  23   47
 7. Leyton Orient            42  13  6  2  31   9   3  7 11  12  33   45
 8. South Shields            42  13  4  4  41  16   4  6 11  20  30   44
 9. Fulham                   42  14  4  3  33  12   2  6 13  10  35   42
10. Sheffield Wednesday      42   9  7  5  31  14   6  4 11  17  34   41
11. Bury                     42  10  8  3  29  13   5  2 14  16  36   40
12. Leicester City           42  10  8  3  26  11   2  8 11  13  35   40
13. Hull City                42   7 10  4  24  18   3 10  8  19  35   40
14. Leeds United             42  11  5  5  30  14   3  5 13  10  31   38
15. Wolverhampton Wanderers  42  11  4  6  34  24   5  2 14  15  42   38
16. Barnsley                 42   9 10  2  31  17   1  6 14  17  33   36
17. Port Vale                42   7  6  8  28  19   4  8  9  15  30   36
18. Nottingham Forest        42   9  6  6  37  26   3  6 12  11  29   36
19. Rotherham United         42   8  9  4  23  21   4  3 14  14  32   36
20. Stoke City               42   9  5  7  26  16   3  6 12  20  40   35
21. Coventry City            42   8  6  7  24  25   4  5 12  15  45   35
22. STOCKPORT COUNTY         42   8  6  7  30  24   1  6 14  12  51   30

 

  

League Division 3
                              P   W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A  Pts
 1. CRYSTAL PALACE           42  15  4  2  45  17   9  7  5  25  17   59
 2. Southampton              42  14  5  2  46  10   5 11  5  18  18   54
 3. Queen's Park Rangers     42  14  4  3  38  11   8  5  8  23  21   53
 4. Swindon Town             42  14  5  2  51  17   7  5  9  22  32   52
 5. Swansea City             42   9 10  2  32  19   9  5  7  24  26   51
 6. Watford                  42  14  4  3  40  15   6  4 11  19  29   48
 7. Millwall                 42  11  5  5  25   8   7  6  8  17  22   47
 8. Merthyr Town             42  13  5  3  46  20   2 10  9  14  29   45
 9. Luton Town               42  14  6  1  51  15   2  6 13  10  41   44
10. Bristol Rovers           42  15  3  3  51  22   3  4 14  17  35   43
11. Plymouth Argyle          42  10  7  4  25  13   1 14  6  10  21   43
12. Portsmouth               42  10  8  3  28  14   2  7 12  18  34   39
13. Grimsby Town             42  12  5  4  32  16   3  4 14  17  43   39
14. Northampton              42  11  4  6  32  23   4  4 13  27  52   38
15. Newport County           42   8  5  8  20  23   6  4 11  23  41   37
16. Norwich City             42   9 10  2  31  14   1  6 14  13  39   36
17. Southend United          42  13  2  6  32  20   1  6 14  12  41   36
18. Brighton & Hove Albion   42  11  6  4  28  20   3  2 16  14  41   36
19. Exeter City              42   9  7  5  27  15   1  8 12  12  39   35
20. Reading                  42   8  4  9  26  22   4  3 14  16  37   31
21. Brentford                42   7  9  5  27  23   2  3 16  15  44   30
22. Gillingham               42   6  9  6  19  24   2  3 16  15  50   28

 

 

Officially the 4th Division was founded in 1958-59, after merging the 3rd divs, north and south.

Until 1992,when the Premier league creation changed the make up of the lower divs.

Dont belittle history or the Teams that helped to make it.!!

Be a football fan and do not turn into  a tribal buffoon,who has only bias eyes for your own Club.Without the others,there cant be a logic of prideo f your own CLUB'S traditions and small Triumphs.

 

Oh one of our best ever and beloved Strikers came from the Terriers..Frank Worthington..

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

So you want to keep him do you? 

 

I’ll repeat in our last 19 games

we have 18pts.

 

Is your argument give another half a season? 

 

I really can’t imagine the basis on which you are attempting to argue a point of fact? 

 

Bar the new manager bounce in the first games when he arrived when he implemented his own tactics it’s been nothing short of disastrous.

 

 

Read my post.

 

i can’t control the emotions on here, but some are really losing the plot over the Puel situation. 

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54 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Do your homework..!! Before letting loose.

 

Not to go all the way back,but. 1920-21 Addition of the 3rd divisions North n South,

Not many Teams about,go to the corner young man,and behave yourself!!

Huddersfield right upto the modern ERA,had quite an enviable history.

 

England 1920-21 


League Division 1

 

  


Final Table:


                              P   W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A  Pts
 1. BURNLEY                  42  17  3  1  56  16   6 10  5  23  20   59
 2. Manchester City          42  19  2  0  50  13   5  4 12  20  37   54
 3. Bolton Wanderers         42  15  6  0  53  17   4  8  9  24  36   52
 4. Liverpool                42  11  7  3  41  17   7  8  6  22  18   51
 5. Newcastle United         42  14  3  4  43  18   6  7  8  23  27   50
 6. Tottenham Hotspur        42  15  2  4  46  16   4  7 10  24  32   47
 7. Everton                  42   9  8  4  40  26   8  5  8  26  29   47
 8. Middlesbrough            42  10  6  5  29  21   7  6  8  24  32   46
 9. Arsenal                  42   9  8  4  31  25   6  6  9  28  38   44
10. Aston Villa              42  11  4  6  39  21   7  3 11  24  49   43
11. Blackburn Rovers         42   7  9  5  36  27   6  6  9  21  32   41
12. Sunderland               42  11  4  6  34  19   3  9  9  23  41   41
13. Manchester United        42   9  4  8  34  26   6  6  9  30  42   40
14. West Bromwich Albion     42   8  7  6  31  23   5  7  9  23  35   40
15. Bradford City            42   7  9  5  38  28   5  6 10  23  35   39
16. Preston North End        42  10  4  7  38  25   5  5 11  23  40   39
17. Huddersfield Town        42  11  4  6  26  16   4  5 12  16  33   39
18. Chelsea                  42   9  7  5  35  24   4  6 11  13  34   39
19. Oldham Athletic          42   6  9  6  23  26   3  6 12  26  60   33
20. Sheffield United         42   5 11  5  22  19   1  7 13  20  49   30
21. DERBY COUNTY             42   3 12  6  21  23   2  4 15  11  35   26
22. BRADFORD PARK AVENUE     42   6  5 10  29  35   2  3 16  14  41   24

 

  


League Division 2
                              P   W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A  Pts
 1. BIRMINGHAM CITY          42  16  4  1  55  13   8  6  7  24  25   58
 2. CARDIFF CITY             42  13  5  3  27   9  11  5  5  32  23   58
 3. Bristol City             42  14  3  4  35  12   5 10  6  14  17   51
 4. Blackpool                42  12  3  6  32  19   8  7  6  22  23   50
 5. West Ham United          42  13  5  3  38  11   6  5 10  13  19   48
 6. Notts County             42  12  5  4  36  17   6  6  9  19  23   47
 7. Leyton Orient            42  13  6  2  31   9   3  7 11  12  33   45
 8. South Shields            42  13  4  4  41  16   4  6 11  20  30   44
 9. Fulham                   42  14  4  3  33  12   2  6 13  10  35   42
10. Sheffield Wednesday      42   9  7  5  31  14   6  4 11  17  34   41
11. Bury                     42  10  8  3  29  13   5  2 14  16  36   40
12. Leicester City           42  10  8  3  26  11   2  8 11  13  35   40
13. Hull City                42   7 10  4  24  18   3 10  8  19  35   40
14. Leeds United             42  11  5  5  30  14   3  5 13  10  31   38
15. Wolverhampton Wanderers  42  11  4  6  34  24   5  2 14  15  42   38
16. Barnsley                 42   9 10  2  31  17   1  6 14  17  33   36
17. Port Vale                42   7  6  8  28  19   4  8  9  15  30   36
18. Nottingham Forest        42   9  6  6  37  26   3  6 12  11  29   36
19. Rotherham United         42   8  9  4  23  21   4  3 14  14  32   36
20. Stoke City               42   9  5  7  26  16   3  6 12  20  40   35
21. Coventry City            42   8  6  7  24  25   4  5 12  15  45   35
22. STOCKPORT COUNTY         42   8  6  7  30  24   1  6 14  12  51   30

 

  


League Division 3
                              P   W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A  Pts
 1. CRYSTAL PALACE           42  15  4  2  45  17   9  7  5  25  17   59
 2. Southampton              42  14  5  2  46  10   5 11  5  18  18   54
 3. Queen's Park Rangers     42  14  4  3  38  11   8  5  8  23  21   53
 4. Swindon Town             42  14  5  2  51  17   7  5  9  22  32   52
 5. Swansea City             42   9 10  2  32  19   9  5  7  24  26   51
 6. Watford                  42  14  4  3  40  15   6  4 11  19  29   48
 7. Millwall                 42  11  5  5  25   8   7  6  8  17  22   47
 8. Merthyr Town             42  13  5  3  46  20   2 10  9  14  29   45
 9. Luton Town               42  14  6  1  51  15   2  6 13  10  41   44
10. Bristol Rovers           42  15  3  3  51  22   3  4 14  17  35   43
11. Plymouth Argyle          42  10  7  4  25  13   1 14  6  10  21   43
12. Portsmouth               42  10  8  3  28  14   2  7 12  18  34   39
13. Grimsby Town             42  12  5  4  32  16   3  4 14  17  43   39
14. Northampton              42  11  4  6  32  23   4  4 13  27  52   38
15. Newport County           42   8  5  8  20  23   6  4 11  23  41   37
16. Norwich City             42   9 10  2  31  14   1  6 14  13  39   36
17. Southend United          42  13  2  6  32  20   1  6 14  12  41   36
18. Brighton & Hove Albion   42  11  6  4  28  20   3  2 16  14  41   36
19. Exeter City              42   9  7  5  27  15   1  8 12  12  39   35
20. Reading                  42   8  4  9  26  22   4  3 14  16  37   31
21. Brentford                42   7  9  5  27  23   2  3 16  15  44   30
22. Gillingham               42   6  9  6  19  24   2  3 16  15  50   28

 

 

Officially the 4th Division was founded in 1958-59, after merging the 3rd divs, north and south.

Until 1992,when the Premier league creation changed the make up of the lower divs.

Dont belittle history or the Teams that helped to make it.!!

Be a football fan and do not turn into  a tribal buffoon,who has only bias eyes for your own Club.Without the others,there cant be a logic of prideo f your own CLUB'S traditions and small Triumphs.

 

Oh one of our best ever and beloved Strikers came from the Terriers..Frank Worthington..

 

 

 

 

Look at the state of football then though, no where as near as good as it is today. 

 

In my life and majority on here they've done nothing where as we're the six most successful club in England we will go on that ;)

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1 hour ago, Stan said:

Read my post.

 

i can’t control the emotions on here, but some are really losing the plot over the Puel situation. 

I've just read it and you are basically saying give him a full season, based on the last 19 games we would have 36 points max after a full season. Might be just enough to keep us up, might not, would you really be willing to take that chance?

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37 minutes ago, joachim1965 said:

I've just read it and you are basically saying give him a full season, based on the last 19 games we would have 36 points max after a full season. Might be just enough to keep us up, might not, would you really be willing to take that chance?

 

I am saying that in one and a half seasons, he’s consistently been in and around the top ten.

 

Everyone is making the assumption that our current form would roll over into next season - even with a heavily restructured squad. 

 

Whether he he goes or stays, I’m not going into panic mode.

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1 hour ago, Stan said:

I am saying that in one and a half seasons, he’s consistently been in and around the top ten.

 

Everyone is making the assumption that our current form would roll over into next season - even with a heavily restructured squad. 

 

Whether he he goes or stays, I’m not going into panic mode.

Let me just say Peter Taylor.

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4 minutes ago, joachim1965 said:

Let me just say Peter Taylor.

If Puel’s still in post next season and we lose 5-0 at home to a newly promoted team on the opening weekend, I’ll give a you an overdue like :)

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8 hours ago, Papasmurf said:

So how do you explain his Southampton against Southampton this season?

The team he left a shambolic mess? the same has is happening to Leicester because we have not been this bad so consistently for years.

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Top ten in a woeful Premiership, only 6 clubs have a positive goal difference, it’s a poor Division shown by the fact probably none of last years promoted sides will get relegated, we’re so lucky it’s not strong because otherwise we’d be relegation fodder, top ten in this league cannot be used as a reason for keeping Puel.

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2 hours ago, Ashley said:

Look at the state of football then though, no where as near as good as it is today. 

 

In my life and majority on here they've done nothing where as we're the six most successful club in England we will go on that ;)

Context,young man all to be taken in context.?

Each part of history was somebody elses modern upto to date technology.

What will young Fans in 60-80 yrs say,about todays football,and antics.

Plus majority on Here have done nothing but whine and complain,how poor we have been

over the last 5-8yrs,with only a 9 month exception in our title season.

Plus shouting the odds how poor the PL has Been over several seasons,not my assesment,

but many...

So if you like,we'll go on that. !!

Just accept each era,that eventually becomes history has its own achievements,heroes,

and idols of the Moment,only the negative moaners tend to follow the same continual

Waffling characteristics,no matter what the ERA. 

When I was growing up I wouldnt let,my elders brow beat me,into seeing their experiences and

everything was much  better,and now being one of the elders of my Generation,I wont accept

the young Generations.  blind bias balarney that their views have More quality of Perspective,and translation.

All Periods and eras and moments in time,have their quaylities and own achievements.

I cant be egoistic and bombastic nor controversially  arrogant,to say..,this,that,and the then and when,

even the now,is in quality  better or worse,in social,sporting achievements and attitude.

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5 hours ago, Stan said:

If Puel’s still in post next season and we lose 5-0 at home to a newly promoted team on the opening weekend, I’ll give a you an overdue like :)

We're bound to lose against Cardiff with Neil Warnock in charge... :ph34r:

 

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On 04/05/2018 at 16:12, ARTY_FOX said:

Is he fighting the dressing room though or is that a term now used to beat the players with any time their form dips? 

 

Fact is, Ranieri said that none of the players stopped playing for him and said his dismissal was down to someone behind the scenes. Live on sky. It was painfully obvious that thebtavtics had changed that season in the league. It astonished me at first nobody was picking up on it but then it didn't go with the negative of we were lucky hoofballers that relied on Vardy and mahrez to do everything. I sit bang on the half way line and my god would he be screaming at the midfield not to cross it too much leaving Vardy and mahrez to do it on their own. 

 

The players were devastated that shakey was sacked. Despite him basically doing the same as ranieri and making some let's say questionable decisions. 

 

Puel went in at half-time 2 games ago and told the players they had played the perfect first half. They may be wondering what the **** he's on about but they're playing his game plan so must be playing for him. As they must be doing what he asked them if he thinks it's perfect. 

 

Everyone hates the players for the sacking of Ranieri. They're selective over the facts so nobody blames him and it's all the nasty players fault. Reality is that's not the case and any manager that can't see that obviously hasn't done their homework on the team and personally don't want anyone that unprepared taking over. 

English football generally is about the drama and soap opera-like storyline. When journalists are unsure, plenty will turn straight to a narrative over anything tactical. It's a huge failing in the way it is.

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11 hours ago, ithuriel said:

The team he left a shambolic mess? the same has is happening to Leicester because we have not been this bad so consistently for years.

 

So now we are also blaming Puel for the state Southampton currently are in lol

 

If Southampton finished top 6 then nobody would give Puel credit for that but it's his fault they are relegation fodder. Lol. Even Saints fan who dont like Puel don't come out with that garbage.

 

Some people are truly losing the plot with this Puel situation. I hope he goes.

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Those Huddersfield fans what a bunch of W@ nk£r$, Leicester are a far bigger club then that village an the response from our Leicester boys on this forum was soft as Sh!t this is why LCFC will never be classed as a big club, because our fans are weak as puck, the past is the past LCFC are the future. Hudders pukin field of S H1T£, not on Leicester level.

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1 hour ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said:

Those Huddersfield fans what a bunch of W@ nk£r$, Leicester are a far bigger club then that village an the response from our Leicester boys on this forum was soft as Sh!t this is why LCFC will never be classed as a big club, because our fans are weak as puck, the past is the past LCFC are the future. Hudders pukin field of S H1T£, not on Leicester level.

 

No one cares about Huddersfield and their fans who think it's 1972 still

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2 hours ago, Koke said:

 

So now we are also blaming Puel for the state Southampton currently are in lol

 

If Southampton finished top 6 then nobody would give Puel credit for that but it's his fault they are relegation fodder. Lol. Even Saints fan who dont like Puel don't come out with that garbage.

 

Some people are truly losing the plot with this Puel situation. I hope he goes.

 

Defend him all you like, his football in this league is garbage, live in denial if you want.

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Just now, ithuriel said:

Defend him all you like, his football in this league is garbage, live in denial if you want.

 

Criticising him for our current style and tactics is cool.  Blaming him for something completely different is mental. But yeah, whatever...

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Criticising him for our current style and tactics is cool.  Blaming him for something completely different is mental. But yeah, whatever...

Yeah, what ever.

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15 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

Criticising him for our current style and tactics is cool.  Blaming him for something completely different is mental. But yeah, whatever...

People are acting as if we were in the CL places when he took over, anything decent happening in that period being clouded by recent form and trends. But I suppose the reality of PL football is that there is no time for rebuilding a squad and ethos.

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