SSL transfer listed and going to ?

[leicesterisme]

This thread was started by a newbee so its most probablly BS. But if true why not cut our losses and use him as bate to bring back Jack Hobbs.

Why would we want to bring back Jack Hobbs?

Imo St Ledger is a better all round defender than Hobbs. As was shown before Hobbs cannot defend without an older head next to him which is something we have not got, also Hobbs is a very limited footballer.

[Walshy5]

Hobbs>St Ledger

[cc_star]

Why would we want to bring back Jack Hobbs?

Imo St Ledger is a better all round defender than Hobbs. As was shown before Hobbs cannot defend without an older head next to him which is something we have not got, also Hobbs is a very limited footballer.

Hobbs got titted around by Svennis and pushed to his unfavoured side to fit Bamba in

Coincidentally no one else since has been able to form an effective partnership with Bamba

Spot the common-denominator

All Hobbs needed was to be a bit more vocal (which comes with coaching not being dropped like happened) he's a much better defender than any of the 3 we currently have (IMO of course)

Hobbs > Mills/Bamba/SSL

[accessory]

Hobbs' performances at the KC Stadium, where he's leading a very solid defence, demolish the myth about him being a "limited footballer".

His treatment by Sven was probably the most shameful act of the mercenary's dismal time with us.

[leicesterisme]

Hobbs' performances at the KC Stadium, where he's leading a very solid defence, demolish the myth about him being a "limited footballer".

His treatment by Sven was probably the most shameful act of the mercenary's dismal time with us.

I'm not questioning his defending ability as it's always been there but he still hasn't developed the ability to pass the ball which does still leave him as a limited footballer.

[Happy Fox]

Mills is Hobbs reincarnated except we forked out so much money for an average defender. St Ledger is what I expected decent back up on the books, Bamba is he a CB? I like his self imposed runs but a defender has to do his defensive qualities for the team and not wonder halfway up the pitch. I think he would be more suited a holding midfield role.

[Corky]

Hobbs was affected during Sousa's reign, where he was, along with Morrison, a shambles.

I think he's a good defender but Sven didn't ruin him.

[Guest Col city fan]

Hobbs' performances at the KC Stadium, where he's leading a very solid defence, demolish the myth about him being a "limited footballer".

His treatment by Sven was probably the most shameful act of the mercenary's dismal time with us.

It's what managers do sometimes.. Come in and let some go, whilst bringing some in. Foolishly in the case of Hobbs as I still think he's an excellent young centre back.

Hobbs or SSL? Hobbs for me anyday of the week

[maccfox]

Bert affirmed the news so maybe he does know something?

No Bert said SSL was dropped because MM is captain he didnt confirm that SSL was on the transfer list

[Jace]

Jack is a class above SSL if he really wants first team football for Eire then he will have to consider dropping down a division I'm sure, I don't know how his Audi R8 will look in Exeter City's car park probably abit out of place tbh

[ithuriel]

No Bert said SSL was dropped because MM is captain he didnt confirm that SSL was on the transfer list

Yeah but peeps here see what they want to see :xmaslaugh:

Sometime's it remind's me of those Simpson episode's where the locals grab pitchfork's and flaming torches and go and burn down stuff like the science museum etc., :xmaslaugh:

[AdamN]

Coincidentally no one else since has been able to form an effective partnership with Bamba

Well that's clearly bollocks. Once they'd had a bit of time to settle in together, Mills and Bamba forged a great partnership (along with Peltier and Konchesky), where, as you may recall, we went 4 games without conceding a single goal in the Championship. Then at Birmingham, Mills went and got himself stupidly sent off and we were back to square one. We haven't had a settled centre-back pairing since, due to a series of suspensions and a change in managers, and subsequently, our defence hasn't been as solid as it was back in September.

[MC Prussian]

On the basis that you seen him?

On the basis that Crystal Palace kept several clean sheets when he played and the fact they were much worse off without him, yes.

EDIT: He also got loads of praise from Palace fans.

[dannythefox]

In the games he's played, he's looked better than Mills or Bamba, for me anyway.

This. He's a very solid player and 9/10 he will win the ball in a tackle or in the air the only bad thing really was when he slipped any let Maynard take the ball off him and he went and scored. As for Mills he is a complete waste of money know better than Jack Hobbs who we sold for 800k! I'd Have him back tomorrow.

[Bettsj2]

If SSL and Mills were the partnership from the start of the season, we'd be in the top 6.

Bamba looks great when he's charging forward and taking people on, but when he's actually defending he's all over the ****ing place. No wonder all the centre backs struggle to play with him. Bamba doesnt even know what he's doing half the time so how can anyone playing with him know?

Showed against Ipswich. The last thing you let happen in the area is letting the ball drop. Even if Kasper called, ****ing tank it away and argue about it later.

He should have been shoved into midfield ages ago as it's exactly what the midfield is missing. Big, strong, imposing. Oh **** it, who cares.

[Father Ted]

Wow, ive been slagged off for pretty much the last 9 months now for saying Bamba is not good enough and now everybody is agreeing... People are beginning to see the light and the real reason why he rotted at some league 2 standard Scottish club for so long.

[gazfox9]

This. He's a very solid player and 9/10 he will win the ball in a tackle or in the air the only bad thing really was when he slipped any let Maynard take the ball off him and he went and scored. As for Mills he is a complete waste of money know better than Jack Hobbs who we sold for 800k! I'd Have him back tomorrow.

As well as being totally dominated by Henderson (average championship player) in the 3 nil home drubbing by Millwall. That was the worst centre half performance by any of our defenders this season.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

In the games he's played, he's looked better than Mills or Bamba, for me anyway.

Bamba looks great when he's charging forward and taking people on, but when he's actually defending he's all over the ****ing place. No wonder all the centre backs struggle to play with him. Bamba doesnt even know what he's doing half the time so how can anyone playing with him know?

You know Leicester fans are really despairing when people are starting to slate Bamba after the season he's had!

Bamba, this season, has been immense. Regularly has the guy been one of our top three performers, which may not say a lot, but he's well in contention for our player of the season alongside Schmeichel, Peltier and Nugent at the moment. Have you not seen some of the things the guy does?! And I'm not just on about his beating of players or running with the ball. The guy has bullied several strikers this season and has more often than not come out on top in battles for the ball. He is the proverbial brick outhouse (another reason why he's not a midfielder - a guy that imposing in the air and strong is a centre half, no questions asked and not to mention his tackling ability)

I think some people need to study Sol a little closer: watch and you'll see the amount of times he wins the ball when he really has no right to.

The criticism of his flair has been heard before. To me, it's boring. How many goals has Sol dicking around cost us this season? Didn't think so.

Here's an alternate view for those who are willing to jump on the back of one of our best players just because he's a little different to your 'if in doubt put it out'/'ave it' defender (one of which we paid £5million for and have seen little to no value from):

In football you generally need the ball to score

If you can keep possesion you therefore have more chance of scoring

If you can keep the ball and beat a man at the same time, thus opening a bit of space, you have a greater chance of scoring a goal with that ball

....everytime Bamba outrageously keeps the ball rather than putting it out of touch, and giving it back to the opposition, is a time where he has kept the ball for the team. I'll happily take the odd mistake here and there for all of the other times Bamba keeps the ball in our possession, and all of the times that he actually takes that ball and drives into the space he sees in front of him.

The defensive problem (if indeed such a problem exists - we've conceded 7 goals in 7 games people, in one of which the goals came from a penalty and when we had 10 men) is not Sol Bamba. So Sean St Ledger: hand your transfer request in, I've no complaints about that, it hasn't worked out as planned. But you should be walking away cursing your bad luck and not that you've been hard done to because Sol Bamba's been playing ahead of you.

Mr Mills on the other hand.....

[volpeazzurro]

SSL not good enough imo. He, like Mills, is little more than a hoofer and invariably the ball comes straight back even in this division, just imagine life with him and Mills together in the unlikely event we got promoted! Not even the bigger teams either, can you imagine West Broms Shane Long and Peter Odenwinge running at pace towards them? I just about give Mills the nod over him for commitment but I'd have to question his positioning and reading of the game and why oh why just he either just hoof it out speculatively or try the Hollywood pass instead of just passing it out simply like Tunchev used to do. Two of these type of players together are a liability so out of the two I'd let SSL go. I've watched him hoofing for the Rep of Ireland as well but they don't have a large squad of players to pick from do they. Anyway, I still wish him and the Rep of I all the best.

[Fox92]

SSL not good enough imo. He, like Mills, is little more than a hoofer and invariably the ball comes straight back even in this division, just imagine life with him and Mills together in the unlikely event we got promoted! Not even the bigger teams either, can you imagine West Broms Shane Long and Peter Odenwinge running at pace towards them? I just about give Mills the nod over him for commitment but I'd have to question his positioning and reading of the game and why oh why just he either just hoof it out speculatively or try the Hollywood pass instead of just passing it out simply like Tunchev used to do. Two of these type of players together are a liability so out of the two I'd let SSL go. I've watched him hoofing for the Rep of Ireland as well but they don't have a large squad of players to pick from do they. Anyway, I still wish him and the Rep of I all the best.

In my opinion, St. Ledger isn't a hoofer, he is an all round defender. And from what I have seen of him, he has looked better than Mills and Bamba. I don't know about anyone else, but I feel more comfortable with St. Ledger playing in defence.

They are not going to pass the ball out of defence if Nigel doesn't want them too. Yeah, I'd love us to play it out of defence at times, but this surely comes down to management?

[Bettsj2]

You know Leicester fans are really despairing when people are starting to slate Bamba after the season he's had!

Bamba, this season, has been immense. Regularly has the guy been one of our top three performers, which may not say a lot, but he's well in contention for our player of the season alongside Schmeichel, Peltier and Nugent at the moment. Have you not seen some of the things the guy does?! And I'm not just on about his beating of players or running with the ball. The guy has bullied several strikers this season and has more often than not come out on top in battles for the ball. He is the proverbial brick outhouse (another reason why he's not a midfielder - a guy that imposing in the air and strong is a centre half, no questions asked and not to mention his tackling ability)

I think some people need to study Sol a little closer: watch and you'll see the amount of times he wins the ball when he really has no right to.

The criticism of his flair has been heard before. To me, it's boring. How many goals has Sol dicking around cost us this season? Didn't think so.

Here's an alternate view for those who are willing to jump on the back of one of our best players just because he's a little different to your 'if in doubt put it out'/'ave it' defender (one of which we paid £5million for and have seen little to no value from):

In football you generally need the ball to score

If you can keep possesion you therefore have more chance of scoring

If you can keep the ball and beat a man at the same time, thus opening a bit of space, you have a greater chance of scoring a goal with that ball

....everytime Bamba outrageously keeps the ball rather than putting it out of touch, and giving it back to the opposition, is a time where he has kept the ball for the team. I'll happily take the odd mistake here and there for all of the other times Bamba keeps the ball in our possession, and all of the times that he actually takes that ball and drives into the space he sees in front of him.

The defensive problem (if indeed such a problem exists - we've conceded 7 goals in 7 games people, in one of which the goals came from a penalty and when we had 10 men) is not Sol Bamba. So Sean St Ledger: hand your transfer request in, I've no complaints about that, it hasn't worked out as planned. But you should be walking away cursing your bad luck and not that you've been hard done to because Sol Bamba's been playing ahead of you.

Mr Mills on the other hand.....

All i'm saying is that yes Bamba has looked amazing this season but since he's arrived, nobody has been able to look equally as solid next to him. Are we saying that Hobbs, Bruma, Vitor, Mills and St Ledger are all shit and he's amazing? He is a good player but he's clearly not a centre back. Perhaps I didnt put that across but thats what i'm saying.

[Legend_in_blue]

All i'm saying is that yes Bamba has looked amazing this season but since he's arrived, nobody has been able to look equally as solid next to him. Are we saying that Hobbs, Bruma, Vitor, Mills and St Ledger are all shit and he's amazing? He is a good player but he's clearly not a centre back. Perhaps I didnt put that across but thats what i'm saying.

If Bamba is not a centre back then how do we accomodate him?

And then ask yourself how would you expect NP to accomodate him.

Problem.

[The Doctor]

SSL not good enough imo. He, like Mills, is little more than a hoofer and invariably the ball comes straight back even in this division, just imagine life with him and Mills together in the unlikely event we got promoted! Not even the bigger teams either, can you imagine West Broms Shane Long and Peter Odenwinge running at pace towards them? I just about give Mills the nod over him for commitment but I'd have to question his positioning and reading of the game and why oh why just he either just hoof it out speculatively or try the Hollywood pass instead of just passing it out simply like Tunchev used to do. Two of these type of players together are a liability so out of the two I'd let SSL go. I've watched him hoofing for the Rep of Ireland as well but they don't have a large squad of players to pick from do they. Anyway, I still wish him and the Rep of I all the best.

Err, because the is **** all movement in midfield to offer him the pass. If we've got lazy bastards in midfield that don't offer themselves for a pass then the defence has no choice but to play it long.

I notice he did it less on Monday with Abe flitting around and making space to receive a pass - coincidence?

[bluearmyfox23]

Would like SSL to stay because if we where to push bamba into a defensive midfield role, That would only leave us with 3 centre backs? 4 if you count Peltier, Also if SSL leaves do u reckon we will look for a replacement? If so I'm up for James Chester any day!!

[Bettsj2]

If Bamba is not a centre back then how do we accomodate him?

And then ask yourself how would you expect NP to accomodate him.

Problem.

No problem for me.

Put him in central midfield. If you had someone like that, you can get a real creative midfielder in (Koren perhaps) and start to play decent football. We've lacked physical strength in the middle of the pitch since Billy Mckinlay.