Guest Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 "determine cultural or individual achievement" Who come from where? From Leicester or are you looking for some ancient history? Where are your family routes? Norman? Scandinavian? Scot?
MooseBreath Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 From Leicester or are you looking for some ancient history? Where are your family routes? Norman? Scandinavian? Scot? As far as i'm aware, immigration from India isn't "ancient history". It is very much ongoing. Believe it or not, there are people in Leicester who were not born here.
Dr The Singh Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 As far as i'm aware, immigration from India isn't "ancient history". It is very much ongoing. Believe it or not, there are people in Leicester who were not born here. Is that a problem, immigration from India is at a all time low, illegal immigration from India is very very low. A large % is doctors nd specialist which this country struggle to breed and without this country will struggle beyond belief are immigrants from India Indians especially Sikhs and hindus are the most successful by % of any ethnic group, average Sikh is more successful then the average white, and contributes more to British economy. You stupidity shows you know nothing about Indian immigrants, there s no known Sikh or hindu ghetto, stop generalising. if you did have any knowledge you would have p picked on a group that wasn't the more sucessful.
Rincewind Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 I don't think Moose is too choosey about who he chooses. Anyone but himself.
lavrentis Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 Is that a problem, immigration from India is at a all time low, illegal immigration from India is very very low. A large % is doctors nd specialist which this country struggle to breed and without this country will struggle beyond belief are immigrants from India Indians especially Sikhs and hindus are the most successful by % of any ethnic group, average Sikh is more successful then the average white, and contributes more to British economy. You stupidity shows you know nothing about Indian immigrants, there s no known Sikh or hindu ghetto, stop generalising. if you did have any knowledge you would have p picked on a group that wasn't the more sucessful. Is there anything the 'Sikh race' isn't good at
Webbo Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 Is there anything the 'Sikh race' isn't good at Anal sex
MooseBreath Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 Is that a problem, immigration from India is at a all time low, illegal immigration from India is very very low. A large % is doctors nd specialist which this country struggle to breed and without this country will struggle beyond belief are immigrants from India Indians especially Sikhs and hindus are the most successful by % of any ethnic group, average Sikh is more successful then the average white, and contributes more to British economy. You stupidity shows you know nothing about Indian immigrants, there s no known Sikh or hindu ghetto, stop generalising. if you did have any knowledge you would have p picked on a group that wasn't the more sucessful. I'm sure you've got lots of stats to back all this up. The "average Sikh is more successful then the average white"? Clearly not when it comes to spelling. Regardless, you've gone off on one without understanding what I was talking about. Seems to happen a lot on here lately. Either I'm getting worse at getting my point across or this forum is becoming more and more stupid. Fif, in her infinite wisdom, seemed to be under the impression that all 'Indians' who currently live in the UK are born and bred British. She even used the term "ancient history" and compared Indian immigration to the Normans, as if it was something that happened centuries ago. I merely pointed at that Indian immigration is still ongoing and thus it is entirely possible, indeed very likely, that they are bringing cultural practices such as, perhaps, littering with them. As for your place in this discussion. I think your views on race are pretty well known. If a white forum member came out with some of the things you do on here, they would be crucified by the lefties. The only reason they don't say anything to you is because you confuse them. They're not exactly sure how to react when you are racist because no-one has taught them and it doesn't fit with their white apologist agenda, so they just block it out.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 She certainly didn't mince her words, in fact some of them were quite goulash. However, I think the people of red Leicester are strogonoff to just move on with it. We won't crumble or quiver like jelly - we are NOT people to be trifled with! I mean, what's her beef? Just cous-cous she had one bad experience, she pastrys us all with the same brush. She'll curry no flavour here and I for one am ashamed of the eggs-ample she has set. Having said all that, I've never been a flan.
skinnydipper Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 She certainly didn't mince her words, in fact some of them were quite goulash. However, I think the people of red Leicester are strogonoff to just move on with it. We won't crumble or quiver like jelly - we are NOT people to be trifled with! I mean, what's her beef? Just cous-cous she had one bad experience, she pastrys us all with the same brush. She'll curry no flavour here and I for one am ashamed of the eggs-ample she has set. Having said all that, I've never been a flan. Are you on the sauce?
Rincewind Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 This thread is getting ridiculous. I won't be involved anymore.
Rincewind Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 She used to partner another chef didn't she? The other one died I believe. She was big as well hence the name they went under.
z-layrex Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 Wow - there is a limitless depth to your ignorance. Edit: On the off-chance, is your mum a large lady likes cooking trying to sell a new book? Why is it ignorant to say many inner city areas are shitholes? They are.
Rincewind Posted 18 November 2012 Posted 18 November 2012 yes they are but what is disagreed is who to blame.
Carl the Llama Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 This thread is getting ridiculous. I won't be involved anymore. She used to partner another chef didn't she? The other one died I believe. She was big as well hence the name they went under. yes they are but what is disagreed is who to blame. :dry:
AKCJ Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 The reason nobody directed her was because they were too bloody terrified of what she looked like.
Tielemans63 Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 At the end of the day, if this woman is prepared to make such huge generalisations about Leicester based on one short visit then maybe she shouldn't be taken seriously. She obviously came with a number of preconceptions and I get the feeling that she wasn't all that interested in having her mind changed. Perhaps people reacted poorly to her because she's a fat, miserable old cow? Perhaps the menfolk walked in front of their wives because they thought they might get eaten?
James. Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 Even in the most widely understood British context, that of people who can trace their roots back to the Indian subcontinent, there are huge variations within the Asian community.The educational achievement of Indian pupils is higher than any other ethnic group besides Chinese students. This has been the case for some time and means that a quarter of NHS doctors are now Asian and that there is a rapidly growing British-Indian middle class. The biggest Indian area in London for example is Harrow, closely followed by Hounslow. While not exactly Windsor or Henley, neither of these are hellish ethnic shitholes. Here a well-established and healthy Indian community exists and has done for years. On the other hand, Pakistani and Bangladeshi students have lower educational attainment and the areas in which Pakistani and Bangladeshi people conglomerate tend to have higher levels of poverty. The problem is that some see this as a chicken and egg situation, getting the wrong end of the stick completely. Some think that these areas are rough because of the fact that Asian people live there, which is false. These areas are rough because they have a great number of people living there who live in poverty, irrespective of their colour. The same can be said of largely white areas such as Eyres Monsell, an area that suffers from high unemployment but is 95% white. Leicestershire Constabulary itself shows that the total number of crimes committed in Eyres Monsell was more than double that seen in multi-racial Evington in September 2012. http://www.ukcrimestats.com/Neighbourhood/Leicestershire_Constabulary/Eyres_Monsell The conclusion must therefore be that it is poverty that causes crime and deprivation, not skin tone. That is why Clarissa Dickson-Wright and Moosey are wrong on this one. By the far the best post but lost amongst a load of garbage. Shame.
Nick Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 Why is it ignorant to say many inner city areas are shitholes? They are. Is that what he said?
cambridgefox Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 As I said earlier in the thread,my mum went to a talk ,with her as guest speaker and she really is an idiot.(the chef is not too clever either) She was trying to promote her book and slagged off every culture,tv station,other chefs and anyone who breathed.She must be thick as shit if she think acting like this will sell her books,I see an Alan Partridge scenario with her books being incinerated (what are they being accused of)if you are on the ball you might get that.
Guest BlueBrett Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 You're right I'm sure you've been to every asian area in England, its just you come across as a naive childish racist.My mistake, my apologies. And mine to you. I called you mad earlier but now I see you're just stupid.
purpleronnie Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 And mine to you. I called you mad earlier but now I see you're just stupid. Yeah I'm the stupid one.
BlueSi13 Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 *Sigh* So remind me again, why has this thread descended into a bitching session about India and British Indians in England when its pretty clear Dickson-Wright was referring to an area of Leicester massively populated by British-Pakistani's?
absolutelegend Posted 19 November 2012 Posted 19 November 2012 I can't believe that I've just read 9 pages of this rubbish! Yes some parts of Leicester aren't very nice, and some of these are mainly populated by muslims, but equally there are parts that are equally not so nice and populated by largely white communities. This goes for most big British cities. Nothing news worthy here. If clarrissa wanted to hang out with 99.9% middle class white folk in the city then all she had to do was go and watch the Tigers!
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