kingfox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Thought drinkwater was alright for the first half of the season, but I personally blame him for our decline in form. We're on the attack with a possible 3 on 3 situation with Drinky on the ball, he decides to turn back and play it to Konchesky and the promising attack ends with the ball at Kaspers feet. The amount of times he lost the ball in Attacking and defending situations is shocking for a Centre midfielder and he's as slow as wellens. When we lost to Barnsley at home a couple of seasons ago, this man and Vaz Te absolutely tore us apart and he played a much more advanced role for them that game, but I just havent seen anything that would make me want him to stay tbh. If this is true, then I really dont mind. James and King next season would be brilliant. Spot On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Thought drinkwater was alright for the first half of the season, but I personally blame him for our decline in form. We're on the attack with a possible 3 on 3 situation with Drinky on the ball, he decides to turn back and play it to Konchesky and the promising attack ends with the ball at Kaspers feet. The amount of times he lost the ball in Attacking and defending situations is shocking for a Centre midfielder and he's as slow as wellens. When we lost to Barnsley at home a couple of seasons ago, this man and Vaz Te absolutely tore us apart and he played a much more advanced role for them that game, but I just havent seen anything that would make me want him to stay tbh. If this is true, then I really dont mind. James and King next season would be brilliant. Yeah James and King are obviously way ahead of him at the moment. Would like us to go for Liam Bridcutt as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Drinkwater doesn't surprise me Matty James is possibly our most improving player at the moment King and James FTW next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 The fee was rising to 3 million, so we don't really know how much we have paid for him. Plus the fact Knockaert's fee was something similar and he's on 5k says differentThat's why the "reported" part and Knocky being on a "reported" 5K only means that the owners learnt their lesson and are cutting their cloth accordingly. We were trying to reduce the wage bill last season you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theessexfox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Drinkwater can definitely offer us something, we need more than two CMs... and as he'll be on relatively low wages, and was instrumental in our good form in the first half of the season, I'd definitely keep him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 true, if he is on decent money though and wants 1st team football and is 3rd in the pecking order he may have been involved in the decision same as Beckford and Danns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 The fee was rising to 3 million, so we don't really know how much we have paid for him. Plus the fact Knockaert's fee was something similar and he's on 5k says different You're forgetting that Knocky hadn't played a single minute in English football and came from a lower standard league, whereas Waghorn had already played a whole season with us and had an important role in us getting to the playoffs, while coming from a Prem club. Of course Waggy is going to be on high(er) wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 We play 4-4-2, Drinkwater is naff in that formation and for me is no better than King or James (more potential and we are starting to see that), for me we need a playmaker and a defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 If you had to get rid of one of Waghorn/Vardy/Futacs, the only reason I can see for picking Waghorn is wages. Futacs would be my choice as we've got Chris Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loggy88 Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Drinky is a good player, want him to stay. Add Futacs and Vardy to the list to go, and if we get a new LB get rid of Konchesky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Agreed, just can't see what Futacs brings to the squad. Not even a good plan b striker Agreed, just can't see what Futacs brings to the squad. Not even a good plan b striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munshi Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Offload all of these players if we can and get in an experienced CM, a winger and a Centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 I find it hard to believe Drinky is one of the seven but Futacs isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munshi Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 I find it hard to believe Drinky is one of the seven but Futacs isn't. It could be that Drinkwater has told Pearson he wants first team football, but Pearson cant assure him of it. That would probably be the only way he's included in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Agree with a previous poster that Drinkwater was the reason for our free fall because of his negative decisions while on the ball, But very surprised to see him on that list. Frankly I smell bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Anyone blaming a single player for our downfall needs their head examining. We were crud in many games with or without him playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Anyone blaming a single player for our downfall needs their head examining. We were crud in many games with or without him playing. Maybe so. But you can't underline the fact, that the centre of midfield dramatically improved after Drinkwater was dropped. Yes we were still playing crap sometimes, but James and King in particular were performing consistently well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Maybe so. But you can't underline the fact, that the centre of midfield dramatically improved after Drinkwater was dropped. Yes we were still playing crap sometimes, but James and King in particular were performing consistently well. When we were playing some of our best football at the start of the season, Drinkwater was playing every game and getting rave reviews - he might have been a bit negative at times, but he was very good at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 My only guess with Vardy is maybe Pearson is looking to loan him out, Drinky is a bit of a shock. Unless something as gone on behind the scenes since, if you know what i mean! Waghorn no surprise, Beckford & Danns should have been given another chance but no surprise, St Ledger as been treated poorly in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Drinkwater looked very good at times this season but suffered from burn out, very surprised he is on the list, the others not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhateram Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 So is this saying they have been released? I.e. They are gone, we have paid off their contracts and they walk away now? Or is it just saying they are up for sale? If so I am really surprised by some of them. Waggy and Drinky could surely have bought in some money? Not to mention the fact they are good standard players. Gutted to see those two go. Hopefully some good additions on the way though. Come on Nige get it done mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 The problem with Drinkwater is that in games when we're being over-run and teams are getting in our face, he's never been able to stamp his authority. The same can be said of King, which is why we saw games pass us by when they played together. King has more about him though in terms of goals and creativity but I still think Drinkwater offers us something. It became clear though that James is the more complete midfielder of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Maybe so. But you can't underline the fact, that the centre of midfield dramatically improved after Drinkwater was dropped. Yes we were still playing crap sometimes, but James and King in particular were performing consistently well. Dramatically improved when he was dropped? I am right in saying we were second in February with him playing almost every game up until that point... and then after that we dropped to 6th with him regularly not playing. James and King put in some decent performances, James particularly and more regularly than King. But that doesn't hide the fact we had done very well for two thirds of the season with Drinkwater in the team... does he get credit alone for us being in that position? Of course he doesn't, just as he shouldn't get all the blame when we are playing badly. When the team was flowing he was in the team on merit and was a very big part of that. So making him out to be some piece of crap is massively wide of the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 I think King offers more than Drinkwater tbh in terms of goals, but we do need better and I suspect NP will bring in 2 central midfielders a playmaker and a defensive midfielder here is hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 So is this saying they have been released? I.e. They are gone, we have paid off their contracts and they walk away now? Or is it just saying they are up for sale? If so I am really surprised by some of them. Waggy and Drinky could surely have bought in some money? Not to mention the fact they are good standard players. Gutted to see those two go. Hopefully some good additions on the way though. Come on Nige get it done mate! They have not been released, other than Waghorn who is out of contract according to the Merc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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