Ozwin Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 This is the most unglamorous deadline day signing ever.
whitlock Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Positives are that Morgan kasper and nuge look look like they are staying.
cityfanlee23 Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 I remember a time when clubs like Arsenal were interested in Doyle. True, that was when Wolves were in the Premiership and Doyle was riding on a wave of confidence - and since then he's had injuries a plenty and Wolves have been a sinking ship, but no doubt the thing that would be tempting Pearson is that if Doyle could recapture his previous form he'd be a snip and a very useful squad addition. I wonder if Sean St Ledger pointed Pearson in this direction given that Doyle was part of the international squad - and in a world cup year, he may be willing to take a pay cut in order to prove himself good enough to get on a plane to Brazil should Ireland make it (not sure what there qualification situation is looking like?). So if the guys hungry and willing to come to us, this has the earmarks of a potential master coup by Pearson in the transfer market (yet again), but on the otherhand I wouldn't want to see us funding the move by selling Nugent to Forest for £2.5 million. When you consider promotion is worth £40 million plus and that for that £2.5 million you're weakening our chances of promotion and at the same time strengthing a rival, that fee suddenly looks pretty small - it may be worth taking a chance and letting the contract run down in the hope that whilst under contract Nugent fires us into the Premier League - at which point he'd probably become surpless to requirements anyway! £90,000,000
Vindaloo FOX Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 NP does not do last minute deals , close the thread .
FoxLAD Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 it's ok he's making you all believe we're signing Doyle... Then BOOM Walks in.. Donald Love
Finnegan Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 I wouldn't hold much store in the Doyle is on £40k per week information. That has come from the Express & Star local paper who generally don't get a lot of inside info about the goings on at Wolves. When we got relegated from the Premier League the majority of the squad had clauses that cut their wages by 50%. One or two of our big signings in the final season didn't have this like Roger Johnson but as far as we know Doyle had his wages reduced. He did sign a new contract at the beginning of our final season in the PL though so may have re-negotiated his reduction clause down a bit. The people that know people suggest he's not on £40k but probably not that far off it. I'd guess at around £30k p/w which is still a lot. Our apparent asking fee is near £5m as well. Doyle isn't one to kick up a fuss either. He doesn't have an agent (him and his family sort it themselves) and has said he's very happy at Wolves. As for the potential signing of him, why does Pearson even want him anyway? Big wages, barely scores any goals, turns 30 in a couple of weeks. He's a good link player, holds the ball up well, wins free-kicks and can run at defenders, but surely you need goals if you're going to be paying that sort of fee/wages for a striker? If he comes here it'll be for a million or less, you won't get five out of us or even close to it. We don't have the money at all, even vaguely. Or at least, we have the money but we can't spend it within the confines of the rules. If we could pay you five or even four million then I'm immensely confident we'd be buying two or three players to flesh out the squad instead. If there's any truth in the rumour it'll be because Pearson believes he can get Doyle at a cut-down price as some sort of bargain because a striker shouldn't really even be our priority, especially one that - as you say - isn't prolific and isn't very young.
The Bear Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Well if you can't afford more than a couple of million for Doyle then you're not going to get him. Forest have just found out the hard way that you don't mess with our CEO when it comes to transfers! As for how can Wolves afford to pay Doyle and the like in League One, well we still have a £16m parachute payment this season, not to mention the £25m we got last summer for Fletcher, Jarvis and Kightly. All Moxey's work again. That's why we can play hardball with transfers still. If subsidising Doyle, Sako and Stearman's wages for a season gets us back up to the NPC then we can afford to do it and it makes sense for us. if only we coukd get rid of Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara! JOH would do right you lot surely? We wouldn't even be asking for a fee in his case.
Deucalion Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Well if you can't afford more than a couple of million for Doyle then you're not going to get him. Forest have just found out the hard way that you don't mess with our CEO when it comes to transfers! As for how can Wolves afford to pay Doyle and the like in League One, well we still have a £16m parachute payment this season, not to mention the £25m we got last summer for Fletcher, Jarvis and Kightly. All Moxey's work again. That's why we can play hardball with transfers still. If subsidising Doyle, Sako and Stearman's wages for a season gets us back up to the NPC then we can afford to do it and it makes sense for us. if only we coukd get rid of Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara! JOH would do right you lot surely? We wouldn't even be asking for a fee in his case. It's the Sky Bet Championship. You been gone that long?
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Well if you can't afford more than a couple of million for Doyle then you're not going to get him. Forest have just found out the hard way that you don't mess with our CEO when it comes to transfers! As for how can Wolves afford to pay Doyle and the like in League One, well we still have a £16m parachute payment this season, not to mention the £25m we got last summer for Fletcher, Jarvis and Kightly. All Moxey's work again. That's why we can play hardball with transfers still. If subsidising Doyle, Sako and Stearman's wages for a season gets us back up to the NPC then we can afford to do it and it makes sense for us. if only we coukd get rid of Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara! JOH would do right you lot surely? We wouldn't even be asking for a fee in his case. What? The same CEO that helped to take the club down into the third tier? Yep, don't mess with him. Dean Saunders was possibly the biggest error your club has made in years.
Libertine Dream Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Well if you can't afford more than a couple of million for Doyle then you're not going to get him. Forest have just found out the hard way that you don't mess with our CEO when it comes to transfers! As for how can Wolves afford to pay Doyle and the like in League One, well we still have a £16m parachute payment this season, not to mention the £25m we got last summer for Fletcher, Jarvis and Kightly. All Moxey's work again. That's why we can play hardball with transfers still. If subsidising Doyle, Sako and Stearman's wages for a season gets us back up to the NPC then we can afford to do it and it makes sense for us. if only we coukd get rid of Roger Johnson and Jamie O'Hara! JOH would do right you lot surely? We wouldn't even be asking for a fee in his case. We could afford a couple of million if it was Sven. Just now we don't have a clown who's willing to overspend on aging strikers with absurd wages who have only ever had a couple of decent seasons
Rasmic123 Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 doyle is crap, wolves fans dont even think he is good enough for them never mind the championship
Deucalion Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 What? The same CEO that helped to take the club down into the third tier? Yep, don't mess with him. Dean Saunders was possibly the biggest error your club has made in years. What about sacking McCarthy? Then appointing Terry Connor, who at no point looked like he was up to or wanted the job. Then there was Solbakken. Wolves have been a comedy of errors for quite a while now, and most of their fans know this and have stopped trying to be Billy Big Bollocks, as there is not much to crow about. Most of their fans...
The Bear Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Moxey isn't blameless but sacking McCarthy and appointing Connor, Solbakken and Saunders was virtually all Steve Morgan. Especially Saunders who's one of the worst managers we've ever had. Morgan has now realised he needs to leave the footballing decisions to other people now and has taken a back seat. By the way I wasn't trying to be "Billy big bollocks", and my comment on Moxey was in relation to his performance with transfers not with Wolves as a whole, which he has done more good than bad btw.
Deucalion Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Moxey isn't blameless but sacking McCarthy and appointing Connor, Solbakken and Saunders was virtually all Steve Morgan. Especially Saunders who's one of the worst managers we've ever had. Morgan has now realised he needs to leave the footballing decisions to other people now and has taken a back seat. By the way I wasn't trying to be "Billy big bollocks", and my comment on Moxey was in relation to his performance with transfers not with Wolves as a whole, which he has done more good than bad btw. The 'No-one can sign our players' thing did sound a bit BBB to be fair, but you say it isn't so fair enough. It has to be a gamble to keep those expensive players though. If they are costing so much money and not performing, then why keep them?
The Bear Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Well we want to keep Doyle and Sako. Doyle has been MOTM in 3 games already. He's really clicked with Griffiths and Sako, just still not scoring but that's nothing new. Of course people can sign our players. Moxey just doesn't let clubs get them on the cheap. Hell he got £3m in total for Henri Camara and he had gone on strike and refused to play for us. Anyway, it's all over with now and I'm delighted we've kept our players. Good luck with the rest of the season. See you at Molineux in 2014/15 (BBB).
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Moxey got £5m for Akinibiyi. Depressing.Daylight fookin robbery more like . . . . .
Deucalion Posted 2 September 2013 Posted 2 September 2013 Well we want to keep Doyle and Sako. Doyle has been MOTM in 3 games already. He's really clicked with Griffiths and Sako, just still not scoring but that's nothing new. Of course people can sign our players. Moxey just doesn't let clubs get them on the cheap. Hell he got £3m in total for Henri Camara and he had gone on strike and refused to play for us. Anyway, it's all over with now and I'm delighted we've kept our players. Good luck with the rest of the season. See you at Molineux in 2014/15 (BBB). I fully expect Wolves to be in the Championship next season, but I'm not sure Leicester will be. (BBB?) We kept our important players too. While that's not as exciting as signing new ones, it is important for us as stability has been such an issue in recent seasons.
Finnegan Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Irrelevant now but I'd have rathered Griffiths to Doyle anyway.
rico Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Wouldn't take a pay cut http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Transfer-news-Leicester-City-fail-late-bid-Wolves/story-19743963-detail/story.html
Danno Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Irrelevant now but I'd have rathered Griffiths to Doyle anyway. Griffiths and Vardy up front would be the best looking strike partnership in history!
Finnegan Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 Griffiths and Vardy up front would be the best looking strike partnership in history! I assume you're being HEAVILY ironic.
lcfc_amie Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 I asked Alan Nixon (he's usually reliable) on twitter this morning about this: here's his replies: I think it was mentioned in one of the papers today too (it might have even been him that wrote it) Alan Nixon â€@reluctantnicko Protected account2h Loan swap. Doyle and Waghorn. Numbers agreed. Imagine that happens before next game. Alan Nixon â€@reluctantnicko Protected account2h ... Doyle also taking a hit in wages. Not sure how that works.
Ric Flair Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 I asked Alan Nixon (he's usually reliable) on twitter this morning about this: here's his replies: I think it was mentioned in one of the papers today too (it might have even been him that wrote it) Alan Nixon â€@reluctantnicko Protected account2h Loan swap. Doyle and Waghorn. Numbers agreed. Imagine that happens before next game. Alan Nixon â€@reluctantnicko Protected account2h ... Doyle also taking a hit in wages. Not sure how that works. This happened with Beckford when he went to Huddersfield on loan. I'm surprised that legally this stands up, but I suppose if the player agrees to it and signs a temporary contract for the duration of the loan then it's legitimate.
Happy Fox Posted 3 September 2013 Posted 3 September 2013 This happened with Beckford when he went to Huddersfield on loan. I'm surprised that legally this stands up, but I suppose if the player agrees to it and signs a temporary contract for the duration of the loan then it's legitimate. Will be a good signing for us with Nugent, Wood and Vardy these are four formidable strikers at this level.
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