Blizzard Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 Why can't we be more creative from corners and free kicks? It makes me wonder what goes on at the training ground, I'd like to see us try something different, than booting the ball into the box. Am I being unreasonable by make this request?
Itsthejoeker Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 Yeah, lets take some short ones. They always work.
tylesta Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 We need to do something as they have been woeful of late, from 97-2000 I would get excited about every corner or free kick within crossing distance! sadly these days I use them as a toilet break :xmaslaugh:
foxes_rule1978 Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 The opposition are more likely to score from our corners and freekicks
cc_star Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 How many creative set pieces work for any team Vs a great ball into the box, that's why most teams don't do them And did you see the standard of Mahrez balls into the box Vs Liverpool, found red shirts every? time
LCFCFOX6190 Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 Not sure on stats, but as a team we look one of the smallest in the league. It does make a difference, but surely this means we should be more creative.
Mark_w Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 We have bigger problems than attacking set pieces.
Russell sprout Posted 6 December 2014 Posted 6 December 2014 We're a shambles at defending them aswell
Captain... Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 I think we should use short corners more often, it will get 2 defenders out of the box, change the angle of delivery and allow Mahrez to take someone on and beat them in a dangerous position. Delivering a poor ball to short attackers isn't working a short corner to create a shooting opportunity on the edge of the box might be more successful. Or at least mix it up a little.
st albans fox Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 I think we should use short corners more often, it will get 2 defenders out of the box, change the angle of delivery and allow Mahrez to take someone on and beat them in a dangerous position. Delivering a poor ball to short attackers isn't working a short corner to create a shooting opportunity on the edge of the box might be more successful. Or at least mix it up a little. Agree completely - what is nuts is to have two men over the corner, draw out one defender and then not play it short around that man. (It happens every game). And if they bring two out, then keep our two over the ball and then deliver it in - there is now one less defender than attacker in the box. I have seen us draw two out and then dawdle over it and then revert to type as everyone drifts back into the box before delivery. And finally, why do we persist we MJ to take corners? RM takes set pieces for his country. Why not for us? (At least on his own wing).
broughtonblue Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 It's alright talking about variety of set pieces, but we can't even get the basics right. How many times does the taker not even beat the first man?
muzzy1981 Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 I agree, quality set pieces can make a huge difference, under MON it was one of our biggest weapons. Matty James crosses have been poor but were a lot better against Liverpool. And yes I think we do need to see some creativity, as its important to mix things up particularly as most prem teams have two or more tall/good in the air CBs. Let's try and utilise Vardy and Mahrez electric pace were poss
Fox92 Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 We never beat the first man and it's frustrating. I'd like to see Cambiasso take them.
Biggus Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 There is room for improvement. My perception is that 50% or so do not clear the wall for free kicks or near post defenders for corners. I also noticed at the Sunderland game something to suggest that our organisation on corners is not well practiced. Twice I saw Cambiasso telling Schlupp to go back outside of the box. Quite right in my view regarding the place he told him to stand but it shows one of two things - either we do not practice corners and where to stand or that Schlupp has the memory of a goldfish. I see these things as improvements on what I think at core is a sound team whose day is to come and they will keep us up.
Guest ttfn Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 There is room for improvement. My perception is that 50% or so do not clear the wall for free kicks or near post defenders for corners. I also noticed at the Sunderland game something to suggest that our organisation on corners is not well practiced. Twice I saw Cambiasso telling Schlupp to go back outside of the box. Quite right in my view regarding the place he told him to stand but it shows one of two things - either we do not practice corners and where to stand or that Schlupp has the memory of a goldfish. I see these things as improvements on what I think at core is a sound team whose day is to come and they will keep us up. I think a lot of it is that a flat ball into the near post is probably the most common source of goals from corners. If you get it right it gives you a great chance of scoring as it takes the keeper out of the equation but if you get it wrong you just hit the first man and everybody groans. I was speaking to a former corner taker for us who was saying that it's much harder than you'd think to get a good ball into the box. Any Sunday League player can just float a ball onto the penalty spot but at the top level the ball needs to be delivered with pace to stand a decent chance of providing a goal scoring opportunity. I'm certain that we do practice corners, but I wouldn't be surprised if we both didn't practice corners enough and that Schlupp forgets where he is supposed to be. The thing is that he is genuinely useful when the ball breaks - off the top of my head I can think of 2 goals he's scored for us from half-cleared set pieces and there might be others.
Biggus Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 ttfn - good explanation re-near post ball. I'll keep a keen eye on that tactic. I agree that is the position Schlupp should stand - he just needs to be reminded!
LAprice_ Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 We're too nice. You'd think that with players like Wasyl and Morgan we'd be a little bit more aggressive when challenging for the ball. The U21s are much better at set-pieces than the first team. Yes, you could argue that the quality of opposition is not as high but at the least the U21 players attack the ball. The first team just seem to stand there and cross their fingers. James can be inconsistent at times when taking corners but I don't think that makes much difference, even when his corners are perfect, we still don't score.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 We're too nice. You'd think that with players like Wasyl and Morgan we'd be a little bit more aggressive when challenging for the ball. The U21s are much better at set-pieces than the first team. Yes, you could argue that the quality of opposition is not as high but at the least the U21 players attack the ball. The first team just seem to stand there and cross their fingers. James can be inconsistent at times when taking corners but I don't think that makes much difference, even when his corners are perfect, we still don't score. THIS
pazzerfox Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 Our actually delivery is not that bad the majority of the time (obviously there are times when the we can't beat the first man, which every team suffers from), it's just we don't have the personnel to get on the end of them. Teams also spend just as much time defending them as we do practicing attacking them.
Russell sprout Posted 7 December 2014 Posted 7 December 2014 Our set pieces remind me of when stef Oakes played for us and could never get it past the 1st man,really frustrating to watch when we're chasing a game
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