That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

[inckley fox]

You ungrateful ****. It's one thing deciding you don't think he's the best option to take us forward (which as I'm sure I've pointed out before - is stupid), it's another to irrationally hate the manager who won us League One and the Championship, gave us the 5-3 over United and some of the most enjoyable moments in the clubs history. This clown is a lot ****ing better than 95% of the managers we've had and you'd be wise to remember it because once he does go we're almost certainly going to revert to our usual form of appointing genuine clowns.

 

Don't be so emotional about it, just be rational.

 

He's not better than 95% of our managers, because 7 out of the 31 have kept us up for one year in the PL (and remember, of those 31 managers a lot of them have never managed at this level, or were gone within 18 months), a place we've been for nearly half of our history, normally with far inferior resources.  If we fail to stay up he'll be one of only five managers we've ever had who've been in charge for over two years without taking us to the top flight and keeping us there.

 

You appear to be making the mistake of thinking that because we had an awful 14 years, Adams and Pearson aside, therefore we'll have another awful 14 years unless we have Adams or Pearson in charge. Plenty of other sides of similar stature, and lesser, have done far better than us with other managers over that period. Not every appointment at every other club was as bad as Taylor, Bassett, Levein, Allen, Megson, Holloway and Sousa.

 

And if you can look a little further back, the joys brought to our lives by Nige pale into insignificance against those of the Hodge, Orr, Gillies, Bloomfield, Milne or O'Neill eras, and are better compared with those of Adams, Wallace, O'Farrell, Bullock, Womack and Little. There are plenty of fans out there who remember a fair few of the aforementioned, so don't expect them to be so eternally grateful to Pearson.

 

At a lower level, there are plenty of managers who can achieve what Pearson achieved and better, even if there are plenty more who can't. At this level, he's among the worst managers we've ever had. So in the context of a club which has spent over 40% of its history in the top flight - sometimes competing for leagues and cups - as opposed to in the context of a club which is going through a financial collapse and sinking from the second to the third tier, he's not actually been that good a manager.

 

What is the reason for keeping him now? That he looks like keeping us up this season? Or that, should he manage to haul us up in another three years' time, we've seen enough to suggest that he'll be a much better top flight manager next time around?

 

Or, is it because he did some good stuff at a lower level in the past? Because if that were the measure we may as well have kept Taylor, Adams or Levein, all of which had performed excellently with other clubs, and in Adams' case Leicester, in the past. The point is that a key reason for us wanting Pearson as our manager was that we thought he could be a good Premier League boss. But he isn't.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

go on explain, do you support the team more than me because you complain more? Real fan you are

Yes, I have SUPPORTED this CLUB for 55 years. I think that makes me a fan.

 

If you don't like my posts, then go and bury your head up Pearson's backside.

[GaelicFox]

I reckon he just appreciates that Pearson has saved our club from going the same way as Coventry really. But yeah, you're pretty funny

What ??? Coventry are you mental

The owners have pumped 120-130m into us that's what saved us not The Strangler Pearson

Is not calling for his head he deserves till end of year

And today I thought lady luck messed us about a bit

Can't see us staying up but think this manager is having a night mare

2016-17 he should be better prepared

We need new coaches as well.....our striker coach is a car crash

[BigMicky]

Never stopped Tottenham ditching Redknapp, Reading getting rid of McDermott, Southampton sacking Adkins or QPR getting shot of Warnock...the list goes on....were not interested anymore in the PAST were talking about the here and now.

For the record I would have sacked him back in November and you can never be certain about these things but I think we would have had more points at this moment in time with Pulis in charge

You can also add to the list all of the teams that changed manager and still went down. How do you know Pulis would have come to us? You do also realise that he was unavailable until January anyway??

[kingfox]

Uh, gave you reputation by mistake. Cardiff where they are because they sacked Mackay.

 

Nevermind I'm sure you won't lose sleep over it 

 

Mackay proved what an arsehole he is with those comments he made, now he will pay the price by relegating Wigan.

 

As for Pearson he has been absolutely brilliant, turned this club right around, but as I said you can be a good Championship manager all you like if you don't produce it in the Prem, then fans & media will start questioning his position and it's only fair for that to happen.

 

Even if we stick with him and we get relegated, it's not a forgone conclusion that we will go straight back up.  

[Tom17LCFC]

you must all surely realise your views are ridiculous when you've got dangerous tiger agreeing with you.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Oooooh Pearson got us promoted to Div 1, Pearson got us promoted to the prem, bore off now Pearson is taking us down with his season long team selections, season long pig headiness and general ineptitude as a premier league manager, Out of his depth like the side he puts out every week. Supported City for 30 years now but he is clueless. Fed up with the disappointment week in week out, anyone who defends Pearson needs to take their out of the sand.

Any grammar nazis fook off cos I am really not bothered you blinkered clueless fools.

[inckley fox]

I reckon he just appreciates that Pearson has saved our club from going the same way as Coventry really. But yeah, you're pretty funny

 

You know, I called for Sven to go, backed Nige to replace him and then supported him consistently. But can we be sure Sven wouldn't have taken us up if he'd been given a further three attempts? And can we be sure we'd be doing worse in the PL were Sven, who had done a job in this league before - and a good one, to be in charge?

 

I wouldn't be so sure Pearson saved us from going the way of Coventry. Why wasn't it Sven who did that when he kept us up in 2011?

 

As for the League One season, it was his great achievement. But are we really saying that what Leicester City needs for the future is a guy who is an excellent League One manager, a very respectable Championship manager, but a piss poor Premier League manager? There are plenty of them out there.

 

What made Pearson special was the hope that he would be able to take us to the place we wanted to be, and keep us there. Not that he could take us there, screw it up, and drop us off in the same place he found us £30m down the line. He has proven not to be the man we hoped he was, and that always hurts, but it will hurt us a lot more if we don't accept it to be the case and move forward.

[hackneyfox]

I reckon he just appreciates that Pearson has saved our club from going the same way as Coventry really. But yeah, you're pretty funny

We would never have done a co*, we have much better owners.

[kingfox]

Depends who he kills really.

 

Please Nigel kill Waghorn 

 

Make Mark hate you.

[cityfanlee23]

i was clinging to abit of hope but now.........

I'm glad i ruined it for you 

[Dan]

That squad should never ever have been near relegation. Sven did OK in 2010/11 but still bottled it when it got tough. He's a fraud and irrelevant to this discussion.

[MHC]

You ungrateful ****. It's one thing deciding you don't think he's the best option to take us forward (which as I'm sure I've pointed out before - is stupid), it's another to irrationally hate the manager who won us League One and the Championship, gave us the 5-3 over United and some of the most enjoyable moments in the clubs history. This clown is a lot ****ing better than 95% of the managers we've had and you'd be wise to remember it because once he does go we're almost certainly going to revert to our usual form of appointing genuine clowns.

You sound like a Forest fan living in the past! You Pearson lovers are in the minority now. Just because Pearson has delivered some memorable moments doesn't mean he is untouchable. Beating Spurs in the cup in 2005 or whatever it was, was memorable and Craig Levein was awful. We will have good moments again without him, but Pearson has taken us as far as he can and I for one would rather us be a stable club in the Premier League not a good Championship side at best and that is all that Pearson can offer us I'm afraid. Call me greedy but I want more then what Pearson has to offer so for that reason alone I think he has got to go.

Edit: when I summarise the job Pearson has actually done I conclude that he has been average at best. Yes he helped us win League One but anything less would have been an underachievement. Not counting the half a season he had in charge following the Sven era he has had 3 full seasons at Championship level, 5th, 6th and 1st. I'd say our promotion was delayed as well so he has done okay at best. I witnessed the O'Neill era and I remember it fondly and Pearson couldn't shine O'Neills shoes if I'm being honest with you. All Pearson has done is achieved what was expected of him only this season he has underachieved which makes him average at best. He isn't even in our top 5 best ever managers.

[Mark_w]

Don't be so emotional about it.

 

I'm a human, it's kind of how we work.

 

 

He's not better than 95% of our managers, because 7 out of the 31 have kept us up for one year in the PL (and remember, of those 31 managers a lot of them have never managed at this level, or were gone within 18 months), a place we've been for nearly half of our history, normally with far inferior resources.  If we fail to stay up he'll be one of only five managers we've ever had who've been in charge for over two years without taking us to the top flight and keeping us there.

 

So by your reasoning, Peter Taylor is better than Nigel Pearson because he kept us up for one year in the Premier League. Very rational. Let's ignore the circumstances. Let's ignore the fact that he took over with us at our lowest point, pulled us up to promotion contenders, saw Sousa and Sven undo half of his good work while blowing a lot of money, then cut costs to get us back into the Premier League and in comparison to the other sides in the division had limited resources this year. He's worse than Taylor because Taylor kept us up once with MON's team. He's worse than managers who took over mid-table top tier sides and remained mid-table top tier, rather than moving a club forward. Let's ignore the context entirely.

 

 

Or, is it because he did some good stuff at a lower level in the past? Because if that were the measure we may as well have kept Taylor, Adams or Levein, all of which had performed excellently with other clubs, and in Adams' case Leicester, in the past. The point is that a key reason for us wanting Pearson as our manager was that we thought he could be a good Premier League boss. But he isn't.

 

None of them have had as much consistent success as Pearson in the division we'll be in next year. We will be a Championship club next year and we'll be a damn site better off with a manager who has a track record of keeping sides competing in the top 6, rather than trusting the people who previously appointed Paulo Sousa and Sven, managers who clearly weren't right for us at the time, to have another go.

[HankMarvin]

A lot of managers clinging on to their jobs, talk about luck and things not going their way. Thats the biggest kop out ever - its not luck, its poor technique, poor decisions, poor man management. Why wait 70 minutes to bring on your record signing striker, when the 2 strikers form doesn't dictate they should be starting. Talking of man management I bet Ben Hamer is feeling good after being dropped

[Gary Eatfood]

A lot of managers clinging on to their jobs, talk about luck and things not going their way. Thats the biggest kop out ever - its not luck, its poor technique, poor decisions, poor man management. Why wait 70 minutes to bring on your record signing striker, when the 2 strikers form doesn't dictate they should be starting. Talking of man management I bet Ben Hamer is feeling good after being dropped

 

I'm not making excuses but Nugent's header first half today can only be described as bloody unlucky.

[inckley fox]

Cardiff sacked Mackay (who we now know is an absolute knob and completely deserved it) reverted to the managerial merry-go-round, predictably ****ed up and are now shite. Obviously keeping Mackay wasn't a realistic option, but if he hadn't been a shitty human being and had stayed (whether they'd gone down or not) for this season I think they'd be much better off. In fact what Cardiff have done is basically what I am warning against. Pearson has a great record in the Championship, I think it'd be wise to give him the opportunity to earn himself a second chance in the Premier League.

 

And when he gets there? What makes you believe he can do a job then? Why not employ one of those other managers who sometimes gets it right in the second tier, but we're pretty much sure won't be good enough upon promotion? I'm afraid this is the worst sort of short-termism, clinging on to something which we're fairly sure won't work out in the end. Unless, of course, that end is a steady top-half Championship finish. There is, quite clearly, no reason to believe Pearson will be able to cut it at the top level. No more reason than there is to believe that Holloway, Warnock or McCarthy will come good some day.

 

Cattermole, JET, Sven's shit. I HAVE AN OPINION. And like you, I want to share it. If you don't want to listen, there's an ignore list for a reason. But don't expect me to stop defending the best manager we've had in my lifetime just because you don't like it. You can point out that I'm defending him every three seconds if you like, but just in case you want to stop wasting your time, it won't influence me one jot because I don't give a shit what you think.

 

You're, what, 20? So you saw Adams, who made a better fist of things in the Premier League (despite ruining our first team squad in the process), and O'Neill was also in your lifetime. I assume by lifetime you mean 'adult life'. Because if you don't...!

 

Depends who he kills really.

[theessexfox]

When have people decided that just because we've spent money on someone, they have to start? Transfer fees don't dictate who plays the game, he's been bought to give us more options and to add to our strikeforce. Who knows, maybe the management feel like he hasn't quite adapted to the PL yet, maybe they decided that he wasn't the best option against Palace. But Nugent was chosen instead, a man who hasn't been prolific this season (he's not a striker) but who many agree on this forum is a pivotal player when we're playing well, links up well and improve us. It's no coincidence that his start today (and vs Villa) created lots of chances, just infuriating that none of them were taken, the responsibility of which goes to Nugent as well as Ulloa, Cambiasso, etc. 

 

Essentially what I'm trying to say is Kramaric has no special right to start based on his price tag and I thought the team selection as a whole today was good and better than the United one by a long way - two proper wingers, perhaps our best CM combination, and two strikers who played together well for our success early in the season (how long ago that was!) Ulloa, however, didn't perform, he couldn't trap a bag of cement. I'd go Nugent and Kramaric vs Arsenal, unless we opt for 4-5-1 which would be understandable. 

 

Pearson to stay anyway, did all he could today, our finishing let him down, we might need to go down and come back up but Pearson has transformed us into a competitive club and the short-term nature of fans shouldn't hound him out. 

[bovril]

I reckon he just appreciates that Pearson has saved our club from going the same way as Coventry really. But yeah, you're pretty funny

 

We could have done a Cov. With our resources we could have done a Southampton. Or, at worst, a Norwich or Palace.

[Mark_w]

You're, what, 20? So you saw Adams, who made a better fist of things in the Premier League (despite ruining our first team squad in the process), and O'Neill was also in your lifetime. I assume by lifetime you mean 'adult life'. Because if you don't...

 

I mean managers I can remember managing Leicester in my life time. Adams was not better than Pearson is, and I was about 4 or 5 when O'Neill left. True there's a better manager in my life time, but not that I can remember managing Leicester so you're being a bit pedantic.

[Mark_w]

We could have done a Cov. With our resources we could have done a Southampton. Or, at worst, a Norwich or Palace.

 

We in League One are not comparable to Southampton because their academy is/was miles ahead of where ours was, it was miles ahead of where ours is now when they were in League One. And in terms of resources, we weren't in the most incredible shape when we went down to League One.

[HankMarvin]

I'm not making excuses but Nugent's header first half today can only be described as bloody unlucky.

that goal wouldve given us a point, against a team in all fairness with out some of their best players. Its fair to say that if you want to be in the Premier league for more than one season - you have to pick up points against the weaker teams. So if our manager is clinging onto the fact that we were again unlucky he is more deluded than his attempts at strangulation suggest

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Seriously now, Pearson took us up but has proved totally incapable of managing a Premier league side, anyone who says otherwise needs a reality check.

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

Okay performance, created enough but couldn't score and switched off from a set piece. But people who say 'continuous terrible team selections' please be quiet. Just because he doesn't pick the team you want doesn't mean your selection is somehow right.

Most on here wanted that midfield pairing, but they largely failed to control the game. Most wanted Simpson in for De Laet and he was useless. Most wanted Ulloa upfront, and his hold up play was dire. Most were happy to see Mahrez and Schlupp in the wide areas, but their end product was poor. I could go on.

His main fault has been lack of incomings both in the summer and in January. But it is clearly not for the want of trying as in both windows Pearson himself has said they missed out on a fair few targets. I would say this is mainly down to us a) Being a small club in terms of Premier League stature b) Not offering enough money (Defoe 80k comes to mind.)

I honestly couldn't think of a manager who would come (and want to come) in at this point of the season with this group of players and would keep us up. So stop crying about it, moaning throughout the 90 minutes like some miserable old bastard sat behind me and get behind the team and see where that takes us. If we go down then re-evaluate at the end of the season who is the best to take us forward. 

[MHC]

I mean managers I can remember managing Leicester in my life time. Adams was not better than Pearson is, and I was about 4 or 5 when O'Neill left. True there's a better manager in my life time, but not that I can remember managing Leicester so you're being a bit pedantic.

Adams probably was better then Pearson and I witnessed it as an adult whereas you would have been about 8 so you can hardly say you knew much about football at that age. Are you forgetting the resources Pearson has had available to use? Adams had nothing and assembled a squad on a shoe string budget and his team actually had a go at staying up and very nearly did, Pearson's team are a bunch of miserable failures who have shown hardly any capabilities of staying in this league.