Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11397943/Leicester-City-0-Crystal-Palace-1-Joe-Ledley-strikes-to-pile-misery-on-Nigel-Pearson.html Jeremy Vardy lol lol
Mark_w Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11397943/Leicester-City-0-Crystal-Palace-1-Joe-Ledley-strikes-to-pile-misery-on-Nigel-Pearson.html 'The ball fell to City substitute Jeremy Vardy inside box at the death, but the decisive finish never came.' Ladies and Gentlemen, The Telegraph.
nettle Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 Football management is a results business and your only as good as your last 19 games surely Pearson must be skating on thin ice!
theessexfox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 Football management is a results business and your only as good as your last result surely Pearson must be skating on thin ice.
inckley fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 What a surprise soon as we lose again the forum goes into meltdown again im sure some people just want rid of NP because they don't like him It must be that. Can't have anything to do with having been bottom of the table for two months, or the manager constantly making bizarre team selections, or insulting the fans, or anything like that.
Spicer Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 Assuming we go down I would keep him next season for his record in the championship, if he doesn't get us promoted straight back up then let him go.
inckley fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 I haven't got no signature pics... I'm not familiar with computer speak. John Lennon pictures and the like. He'd never have stood for any of this crap.
inckley fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 Assuming we go down I would keep him next season for his record in the championship, if he doesn't get us promoted straight back up then let him go. If we did get straight back up would you fire him on the grounds that we are already fairly certain he's not good enough at this level? We can't want him to be our manager in the Championship next season because he had a good season or two at that level in the past but then, beyond that, want him to be our manager at the highest level in spite of his awful past record in the PL. That's just a complete lack of logic. In fact, it's a case of wanting Pearson at all costs. There's a lot of it around on here at the moment.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 I think Pearson has reached the point where he has taken us as far as he can. Fans have made allowances for the “fine margins” that have seen us lose matches we deserved not to lose. But there are no “fine margins” working the other way. It’s happening too often now to be a consideration any more. Even we can't be that unlucky. The players are doing their best, but they are sub-Premier League quality. They make too many errors which are small in isolation and sometimes cause no damage, but too often the small mistakes mount up to either give goals away or prevent us from scoring. If anything, these are the real “fine margins”. These things have been happening too often since the start of the season, and Pearson hasn’t been able to reduce them. He hasn’t been able to improve the team as a unit. The transfer window was Pearson’s chance to improve the team, but it is a nonsense to make a record signing and then leave him on the bench until the team is going gung-ho for an equaliser with 20 minutes left. It’s ironic that amid the chaos of going for all-out attack, there were three or four moves between Kramaric, Cambiasso and Mahrez in which their interplay clearly demonstrated the gulf in class between them and the rest of the team. After the successes he has brought to Leicester, Pearson deserves to be treated with respect. I don’t want to see his detractors (the venomous Stringer in particular) get satisfaction from seeing him subjected to a sustained hounding out campaign. But today’s failure is a new low. The time has come for him to move on. Well thought out postI agree generally with all you have put
Danizen Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2944027/Leicester-City-boss-Nigel-Pearson-appears-hands-throat-Crystal-Palace-midfielder-James-McArthur.html?ito=social-facebook The Daily Mail ****ing love their clickbait.
bovril Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 The Daily Mail ****ing love their clickbait. I'm surprised they didn't get Pearson and McArthur to do a Daily Mail sad face.
Spicer Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 If we did get straight back up would you fire him on the grounds that we are already fairly certain he's not good enough at this level? We can't want him to be our manager in the Championship next season because he had a good season or two at that level in the past but then, beyond that, want him to be our manager at the highest level in spite of his awful past record in the PL. That's just a complete lack of logic. In fact, it's a case of wanting Pearson at all costs. There's a lot of it around on here at the moment. I don't want Pearson at all costs. I just don't see who we can bring in to improves us currently. In my opinion we should of got Pulis in a couple of Months ago. I lack logic for wanting a manager who has never not been in at least the playoffs in the championship as a manager? If there was a better option I would take it. But I can't think, or have seen, of a better option out there for us currently. So if he was sacked tomorrow what would be your plan? Who would you bring in?
Corky Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 Football management is a results business and your only as good as your last result surely Pearson must be skating on thin ice. That is such a ridiculous argument. So if we win on Tuesday all is forgiven and he's great again? Can't see that occurring.
LibertyFox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11397943/Leicester-City-0-Crystal-Palace-1-Joe-Ledley-strikes-to-pile-misery-on-Nigel-Pearson.html If you read to the foot of the article you'll see sports journalism is as accurate as ever... "The ball fell to City substitute Jeremy Vardy inside box at the death..."
Fox92 Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 I'm not familiar with computer speak. John Lennon pictures and the like. He'd never have stood for any of this crap. Oh, my avatar! Yeah I know! Cheers.
inckley fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 I don't want Pearson at all costs. I just don't see who we can bring in to improves us currently. In my opinion we should of got Pulis in a couple of Months ago. I lack logic for wanting a manager who has never not been in at least the playoffs in the championship as a manager? If there was a better option I would take it. But I can't think, or have seen, of a better option out there for us currently. So if he was sacked tomorrow what would be your plan? Who would you bring in? He had three separate seasons in the Championship when he wasn't in the play offs. One of which he managed a third of a season, another of which he managed two thirds and was among the favourites for promotion, and another of which he was in charge for the full term with Hull. It's also worth remembering that he was favourite for promotion when he slipped up in the play-offs in 2013, and was among the favourites when he finally won it in 2014. The only year he has achieved above expectations at that level was in 2010. He will be shackled by FFP this time and will have a large number of players out of contract (Knockaert, Hammond, Cambiasso, Wasilewski, Konchesky) as well as a large number of likely departures (Kramaric, Schlupp, Mahrez) and several others approaching their winter years, or well into them (Schwarzer, Morgan). He will have to restructure, and bearing in mind he couldn't form a side capable of making the step up last time - and took three years to achieve that step up - do we really want him to have that task next time? More to the point, if he does make it second time around, what reason do we have to believe that he can be a decent Premier League manager? A decent Championship manager who could well make the step up might be a better bet than a decent Championship manager who couldn't. Better options? Different managers are good for clubs at different moments. I can't stand Glen Hoddle and can't understand why so many pundits consider him a good manager, but he might be the right manager for a certain club at the right time (not us, I sincerely hope). The same goes for all sorts of equally uninspiring names (remember how disappointed West Ham fans were to get Pardew and Big Sam?). I like Lennon but would like to see him in the English game for a full season before he came here, ideally, and I'm sure the likes of Jol, Karanka and Howe will end up doing a job at this level, though I don't know whether they'd be right for us now, or whether we could get them. But there are no guarantees. What we can say is that it looks fairly certain that Pearson isn't a good manager at this level and, if we wish to stay up now or next time around, we may need to look at someone else who could be. And yes, with hindsight of course you were right about Pulis.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 If we did get straight back up would you fire him on the grounds that we are already fairly certain he's not good enough at this level? We can't want him to be our manager in the Championship next season because he had a good season or two at that level in the past but then, beyond that, want him to be our manager at the highest level in spite of his awful past record in the PL. That's just a complete lack of logic. In fact, it's a case of wanting Pearson at all costs. There's a lot of it around on here at the moment. So what you're saying is he shouldn't be given a chance in the Champ even though he succeeded before because he may fail next time, and he shouldn't manage in the Prem because he's failing now and will surely fail again? The same could be said about your logic.....I.e. against Pearson at all costs
inckley fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 So what you're saying is he shouldn't be given a chance in the Champ even though he succeeded before because he may fail next time, and he shouldn't manage in the Prem because he's failing now and will surely fail again? The same could be said about your logic.....I.e. against Pearson at all costs No, that's clearly not what I'm saying. I'm saying that if- a. Our ambition is to be a Premier League club b. We accept that Pearson is a good 2nd tier manager c. We accept he's not much good in the first tier Then, if we want to be an established first tier club we're going to have to fire him at some point, even if it's on the day we go up. Unless we just want to hope that he's got a whole lot better. Some people are saying that they want him in charge in the 2nd tier because of his past record there. But, they also want him in charge if we get promoted despite his past record there. That's totally contradictory, and loyalty to a manager at the expense of our club. And what utter nonsense you're writing. How is my logic 'against Pearson at all costs'? I've formed my judgement on his credentials as a Premier League manager based on nearly two thirds of a season, which strongly suggests he's not up to scratch. I supported him in his job for all of it, until now.
ealingfox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 If you're using this season as grounds to criticise Pearson's whole tenure with us you really need to take a long, hard look at yourself.
inckley fox Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 If you're using this season as grounds to criticise Pearson's whole tenure with us you really need to take a long, hard look at yourself. I don't think people are, I think they're just saying that a major part of what we needed Pearson to be was a manager capable of keeping a side in the top tier, which he doesn't appear to be. The fact that the side he built over three years, at considerable expense - and with a great deal of tolerance from the board when he failed to meet past objectives - hasn't made the step up indicates that somebody else needs to do that building next time around. And hopefully get us promoted a lot more quickly.
nettle Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 That is such a ridiculous argument. So if we win on Tuesday all is forgiven and he's great again? Can't see that occurring. Does your post smell of horseshit because Mark w's do
shailen Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 pearson cannot be blamed, say whatever you want. I was happy with the team we had, and we dominated the game, but could not take any chances, we had about 5/6 guilt edge chances. It really is the story of our season.
Fox92 Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 pearson cannot be blamed, say whatever you want. I was happy with the team we had, and we dominated the game, but could not take any chances, we had about 5/6 guilt edge chances. It really is the story of our season. I absolutely respect Pearson, what he's achieved here and I don't want him sacked but I cannot agree with this because ultimately he is the manager and it's his responsibility.
nettle Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 pearson cannot be blamed, say whatever you want. I was happy with the team we had, and we dominated the game, but could not take any chances, we had about 5/6 guilt edge chances. It really is the story of our season. What a rubbish post! The buck stops with the manager how can you not blame him the results have been shocking.
MC Prussian Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 What a rubbish post! The buck stops with the manager how can you not blame him the results have been shocking. When do you start blaming the players - are they all faultless? Do you spot the holes in your theory?
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