inckley fox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 We need better players, not a better manager In terms of our squad - bearing in mind both its finish last season and its price tag - we had quite an advantage over Burnley this year, and Palace last year. There have been some appalling errors made by the manager this year, and this appears to account for both of these sides having done a little better than us. Between Pearson and the club, we appear to have gone through the whole catalogue of 'things not to do upon promotion'. Letting everyone get battered after winning your fifth game of the season, celebrating like you've won the league and failing to instil a sense of perspective, is looking increasingly like one of the poorest managerial reactions to fleeting success in our entire history. I doubt there are many fans who would have played Konchesky today, or De Laet up to the 15th game of the season, or Schlupp on the left wing, or Vardy ahead of Ulloa as a lone striker, or the 4-1-2-1-2 a few weeks back, or persisted with Nugent as a semi-regular, or made most of the signings Pearson did, or publicly berated Mahrez, or played two target men at the same time without a winger... the list is intimidating, and it goes on. Some of these errors were understandable, some of them were wrong, and obvious to everyone that they were wrong. And they went on to cost us severely. I find it incredible that, the Manchester United game aside, the one event which has caused City fans to rally behind their manager was that he yelled 'f*** off and die' at a bunch of fans, and became the first ever Premier League manager to be charged by the FA for doing it. Some people called Sunderland a must-win game. When we drew it, lots of us - me included - said we had to give Pearson a chance. Others said it was the perfect moment to make a change and give someone else a chance. Literally no-one on earth could have done worse than Pearson since then, so it's looking rather like we were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickov22 Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 In terms of our squad - bearing in mind both its finish last season and its price tag - we had quite an advantage over Burnley this year, and Palace last year. There have been some appalling errors made by the manager this year, and this appears to account for both of these sides having done a little better than us. Between Pearson and the club, we appear to have gone through the whole catalogue of 'things not to do upon promotion'. Letting everyone get battered after winning your fifth game of the season, celebrating like you've won the league and failing to instil a sense of perspective, is looking increasingly like one of the poorest managerial reactions to fleeting success in our entire history. I doubt there are many fans who would have played Konchesky today, or De Laet up to the 15th game of the season, or Schlupp on the left wing, or Vardy ahead of Ulloa as a lone striker, or the 4-1-2-1-2 a few weeks back, or persisted with Nugent as a semi-regular, or made most of the signings Pearson did, or publicly berated Mahrez, or played two target men at the same time without a winger... the list is intimidating, and it goes on. Some of these errors were understandable, some of them were wrong, and obvious to everyone that they were wrong. And they went on to cost us severely. I find it incredible that, the Manchester United game aside, the one event which has caused City fans to rally behind their manager was that he yelled 'f*** off and die' at a bunch of fans, and became the first ever Premier League manager to be charged by the FA for doing it. Some people called Sunderland a must-win game. When we drew it, lots of us - me included - said we had to give Pearson a chance. Others said it was the perfect moment to make a change and give someone else a chance. Literally no-one on earth could have done worse than Pearson since then, so it's looking rather like we were wrong. Can't argue with that. Hopefully he's learning fast. I can't see us sacking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Might get shot down here but if Pearson went (and I hope that doesn't happen) then what about Mick McCarthy? Time has shown what an underrated job he did at Wolves. He's turned Ipswich around completely and going way back did a very good job at Millwall and for Eire. Has prem experience too. We could do a lot worse IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Pulis only cares about himself. Did a good job at Palace but knew what he was doing when he left: his stock has never been higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Pulis only cares about himself. Did a good job at Palace but knew what he was doing when he left: his stock has never been higher. How about NP? every single manager cares about themselves, that isn't a reason not to hire him based on footballing managerial credentials he is a far sight better than NP isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Der Spiegel tweeted 12 mins ago that Klopp has no intention of resigning. Shame. If we can't get Klopp, we should go for Pep G, Mourinho or get Sir Alex Ferguson out of retirement. :rolleyes Pearson it is, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Pulis would be dreadful - hoofball isn't working as it is, adding a baseball cap to the dugout won't help. I don't see any options out there that don't make me contemplate saying **** it all and moving to a desert island. Pearson would love his PL record, proven in the PL unlike NP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Pearson would love his PL record, proven in the PL unlike NP So? He did a good job with Stoke and Palace, but he had to spend ridiculous amounts with stoke, and was sacked by palace because they weren't prepared to do likewise. Not to mention his style will not work with us. But, if you want to go down, but blow a hell of a lot of money and put us back 3 years, then he's your man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcdave15 Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Might get shot down here but if Pearson went (and I hope that doesn't happen) then what about Mick McCarthy? Time has shown what an underrated job he did at Wolves. He's turned Ipswich around completely and going way back did a very good job at Millwall and for Eire. Has prem experience too. We could do a lot worse IMHO I was thinking the same the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyneside fox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Rijkard or di matteo would do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Next doors cat would do a better job than pearson. Please bin that conceited, arrogant Northern dick right come monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GH1 Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Hoddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Next doors cat would do a better job than pearson. Please bin that conceited, arrogant Northern dick right come monday. Northern man from Nottingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC Rennie Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 I am not saying Pearson out however I'd take Sherwood or O'neill if given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgefox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Might get shot down here but if Pearson went (and I hope that doesn't happen) then what about Mick McCarthy? Time has shown what an underrated job he did at Wolves. He's turned Ipswich around completely and going way back did a very good job at Millwall and for Eire. Has prem experience too. We could do a lot worse IMHO I was thinking the same the other day.so was I,good shout,I fooking hate Ipswich due to my location,I couldn't bare to see them cvnts go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grewks Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Might get shot down here but if Pearson went (and I hope that doesn't happen) then what about Mick McCarthy? Time has shown what an underrated job he did at Wolves. He's turned Ipswich around completely and going way back did a very good job at Millwall and for Eire. Has prem experience too. We could do a lot worse IMHO Mccarthy would be a fool to leave Ipswich at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Al Pacino anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 O'Neil. Refreshed from a break? It's a thought isn't it... Failing that God only knows. Pearson is probably still one of the best prospects. He's just having a mare and closer to te Mark the team are having a mare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 roy keane assisted by Paolo Di Canio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 We won't attract any mangers as it would be a suicide mission to walk into. Why? Surely for a new manager to come in its a no lose situation? We stay up, he's a hero. We go down, we were already going down. I'd like Pearson to be given the transfer window. He's done what he said he would do and give the player's a go that got us here, he now knows they are not good enough and will go all out to strengthen in Jan imo. If he does go, then I hope the new guy can get the best out of what he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Eatfood Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 O'Neil. Refreshed from a break? It's a thought isn't it... Failing that God only knows. Pearson is probably still one of the best prospects. He's just having a mare and closer to te Mark the team are having a mare. Which break? He's the manager of the Republic of Ireland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 20 December 2014 Share Posted 20 December 2014 Christ some of these suggestions are bordering on ludicrous, seems to be an 'anyone but Pearson' attitude from the haters without any consideration of the credentials and realistic prospect of them coming.Pulis = Would be the most likely of the lot to keep us up granted, but he would have to rip our squad to pieces in January. People say he played better football at Palace, but it was still very simple in terms of scoring a lot from set plays and winning second balls. We currently have 2 or 3 players over 6 foot, so he would realistically have to invest in 30 millions worth of players. If we ended up going down anyway, that 30 million is pissed up the wall and these players and manager would jump ship the moment relegation is assured. Added to this he is unlikely to take on such a difficult task of keeping us up at such short notice, he had over 30 games at Palace, by the time the deal is sorted he would have half of that and would need at least 8 wins in such a short space of time.Lennon = Completely unproven quantity in England let alone in the Premier League. If he hadn't been a city legend he wouldn't even be considered by us fans. He did well at Celtic at a time when there was literally no competition for the title. Would be a ridiculous gamble to take considering we have a manager currently who is more qualified than him for the job. Nameless foreign manager = Last season the bottom 2 both replaced their manager at a similar time of the year and brought in successful foreign coaches, they both got relegated with a whimper, spent shit loads of money and started the Championship season terribly and are both now unemployed. Added to that West Brom did their very best to get relegated under Mel and were definitely worse off than when Steve Clark was their manager.Sherwood = Scraping the barrel now lads, yet another Spurs coach who finished exactly where they do every season. Was largely seen as an absolute clown on the touchline and Spurs look a better team now without him with largely the same players.Howe = Has a similar CV to our Nigel, except a big thing missing that is promotion to the Premier League. Yes Bournemouth are top now and it has been impressive how well they have done but they aren't up yet, and we know as well as any how the wheels can come off when you look like you're Premier League bound. Not sure he would want to risk everything he has built at Bournemouth to potentially swap positions in May.McCarthy = I'm a big Mick fan, but his Premier League record is relatively poor. Seems to be doing a good job at Ipswich and not sure he would leave there.Any I have missed out? I really can't see any alternative who is more likely to keep us up than Nigel and will actually be willing to come. What is the point therefore in change for the sake of it when we know Nigel has delivered the goods for us before. So lets allow him time to sign a few more bits of quality without breaking the bank and get behind the players as fans to see what we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell sprout Posted 21 December 2014 Share Posted 21 December 2014 Northern man from Nottingham.Just what I thought :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell sprout Posted 21 December 2014 Share Posted 21 December 2014 Why? Surely for a new manager to come in its a no lose situation? We stay up, he's a hero. We go down, we were already going down. I'd like Pearson to be given the transfer window. He's done what he said he would do and give the player's a go that got us here, he now knows they are not good enough and will go all out to strengthen in Jan imo. If he does go, then I hope the new guy can get the best out of what he's got. Completely agree,Good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collibosher70 Posted 21 December 2014 Share Posted 21 December 2014 peter taylor ? i'll get me coat :xmastongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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