Buzzell Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Am I missing something? Is a tally of 11 goals in 19 MLS games really anything much to shout about for a marquee signing? What would be the overall standard of the MLS? Off the cuff, I'd say equivalent to about a good English League 1? Or maybe latter half of the Championship? At that level, you'd expect possibly a better return than 1 in 2 games ish? If Defoe had been banging em in, stayed fit and was joining us in top form, I'd be more excited. But I don't think he's played much for months has he? Again, I don't think I'd go only on reputation. I'd go for someone fit as a fiddle, on great current form and who can come straight in and do a job instantly. Defoe might fit the bill. He's quality. But is he in the right shape and form to save us from going down? I dunno.. It's a risk to take if we want to survive. Defoe has a reputation of scoring goals at this level, whether or not he still has the ability is another question, but his goals would prove vital for us to stay up. If we stay up, he's done his job, what was asked of him and contributed to our survival. If not, he leaves at the end of the season if we go down.
Stuntman_Mike Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Am I missing something? Is a tally of 11 goals in 19 MLS games really anything much to shout about for a marquee signing? What would be the overall standard of the MLS? Off the cuff, I'd say equivalent to about a good English League 1? Or maybe latter half of the Championship? At that level, you'd expect possibly a better return than 1 in 2 games ish? If Defoe had been banging em in, stayed fit and was joining us in top form, I'd be more excited. But I don't think he's played much for months has he? Again, I don't think I'd go only on reputation. I'd go for someone fit as a fiddle, on great current form and who can come straight in and do a job instantly. Defoe might fit the bill. He's quality. But is he in the right shape and form to save us from going down? I dunno.. But who could we realistically attract (at a fair price) that is proven at this level? I don't believe we've got time to allow people to settle, we need an instant impact. Besides, I don't think NP would sign him if he wasn't fit or very close to full fitness anyway.
Guest Col city fan Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 It's a risk to take if we want to survive. Defoe has a reputation of scoring goals at this level, whether or not he still has the ability is another question, but his goals would prove vital for us to stay up. If we stay up, he's done his job, what was asked of him and contributed to our survival. If not, he leaves at the end of the season if we go down. Yes it is a risk but why take it? Genuinely, I'd be so much more excited if the club finally came out with a real statement of intent on maximising our survival chances. If we were now strongly linked with a player like Ings for 7 mill (ish) I'd finally think we were having a real go at getting out of trouble. Maybe we just don't have the dosh or just don't want to spend? But its stick or twist time really. Defoe IS a risk, not financially, but in terms of lack of game time, injury and age. Someone like Ings would only be a risk financially perhaps. Sign HIM, get him up front alongside Leo and I would fully expect him to hit the ground running. We know he can play off a big man, he's on current good form, is young and fit and is playing in the Prem NOW. That would be a more exciting proposition IMO. But maybe unachievable? I dunno.
crisp packet Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Every signing is a risk? Reading between the lines Toronto are awful ,once jermaine didn't make the World Cup squad he seemed to have lost intrest in them. Hence us and qpr linked in the summer? They ( Toronto fans )still say he is there best ever player? We haven't got time to sign an un known quantity .. The premier league know what Defoe is about ? GOALS.
Fox92 Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Most goalscorers will score goals if they have chances created for them, regardless of if they're proven or not. People keep posting "goals" etc but we still need to create the chances for him. It's not like he's going to join and we'll stay up outright.
Itsthejoeker Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 I swear some people just go against the grain to say "I told you so"
Raj Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 I swear some people just go against the grain to say "I told you so"mno..its just called not getting overtly excited about something that may not transpire to be a guaranteed success!!!
Stadt Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 I just don't think he'd do it for us, I'm not even sure why
Monsell1976 Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Players coming in must be better than what we already have, is he better than vardy, nugent, wood, GTF, ulloa, and so on, I would say he is. Defoe is a good finisher and cannot believe he went to America at such a young age, at 31 is the prime age for a footballer, why did he go ?. Anyway if he does sign nugent will get some tap in's
MPH Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 You have delusions of grandeur to not want or think we don't need Jermaine Defoe
iancognito Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 This is a guy who is proven at this level and if it weren't for the obsession with Rooney and Owen would have had even more than he has already for England. He's still got pace and can get a goal out of absolutely nothing. In time, Vardy will be ready for this level, right now he's not and if we're going to have a chance of getting out of the bottom 3 we need to be taking every chance, not one in four.
foxinsocks Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Not sure about his recent form? His agent is doing a great job: Hull, Qpr, Palace and us all apparently queuing up - he should be looking forward to at least £100k per week... but will he help us???? - how many points will he add? What about Callum McManaman at Wigan or Kenwyne Jones at Cardiff - they could work in the PL... not just there to pick up the wages?
volpeazzurro Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Whats style is that. ??? Players like Defoe have played in many formations and styles, and have been successfull. Another wasted throw away statement, lazy easy words. Club and International low level coaching prevented this guy realising his potential.Could of been an England great, his scoring rate was better than Owen's.Same thing will happen to Sterling, and Sturridge.Too many coaches insisting on tweeking or changing individuals style, instead of using that raw extra dribbling ,scoring knack and instinct for goal..with pace British coaches cant handle it, these players are quicker than modern coaches can think. Good points well made, we train natural ability out of our players rather than nuturing it.
volpeazzurro Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 All really good strikers have a good first touch and compsure which Defoe posesses. As much as I like Vardy he just hasn't got it naturally. Perhaps this season in the Premiership might bring him on yet again with the experience.
Stadt Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 All really good strikers have a good first touch and compsure which Defoe posesses. As much as I like Vardy he just hasn't got it naturally. Perhaps this season in the Premiership might bring him on yet again with the experience. I think to score 33 goals or whatever number it was at any level shows some composure, I think Vardy's problem is he lacks the technique to score in a variety of ways.
Deucalion Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 I'm going toilet, can we have a poll for whether its a shit or a piss? First one, then the other.
Mark_w Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Voted no, but I'm undecided really, if it happens then I'll be happy that Nigel's got his man. My concern is that we're likely to go down anyway and so rather than sign an experienced striker who probably won't stay if we go down, I'd like someone younger with time to develop who would be willing to drop down to the Championship should the worst come to the worst.
Vlad the Fox Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 If we go down we've got ulloa, Vardy, nugent who all ripped the league apart last season.
Mr Weller Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Can't believe he'd come but only a fool would turn down such a talented player; one of thebest strikers in the last 5 years in th PL I agee we need a centre back first and foremost but it's not an either or situation
Guest ttfn Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Can't believe he'd come but only a fool would turn down such a talented player; one of thebest strikers in the last 5 years in th PL I agee we need a centre back first and foremost but it's not an either or situation Defoe has scored 27 goals in the last 5 years in the Premier League. He's not been anywhere near an elite striker for about 6 or 7 years, hence why he's considering joining us.
kingfox Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Voted no, but I'm undecided really, if it happens then I'll be happy that Nigel's got his man. My concern is that we're likely to go down anyway and so rather than sign an experienced striker who probably won't stay if we go down, I'd like someone younger with time to develop who would be willing to drop down to the Championship should the worst come to the worst. Castaignos.
The Doctor Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Provided he's not stupidly expensive, yes. Given the choice between him and Lennon, I'd take Lennon all day long.
Freesolo Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Jermain we want you buddy your the only player that can understand what Canbiasso is doing when he try's what looks like a fancy flick on! all the rest of our forwards are level 1 thinkers and just think shit if only i had ran onto that i might have scored
Guest Col city fan Posted 4 January 2015 Posted 4 January 2015 Jermain we want you buddy your the only player that can understand what Canbiasso is doing when he try's what looks like a fancy flick on! all the rest of our forwards are level 1 thinkers and just think shit if only i had ran onto that i might have scored1. It's Cambiasso and Jermaine.2. What does that even mean? What is a level one thinker? 3. WTF?
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