Honestly..who can defend Pearson now

[hackneyfox]

 All this Pearsonite nonsense is unfair on the vast majority of the fans who like or rate him.

Didn't the term 'Pearsonite' start because some of his supporters started throwing the term 'haters' around?

[Robin JD Popley]

No-one has said he is as good as O'Neill.

 

One of the worst parts of this season on here has been the belittling and patronising attitude (not by yourself) towards the younger generation of the fanbase, seemingly being blamed for liking, supporting and therefore defending Pearson who, after years of misery, gave them something to enjoy, and remember. He might not go down as a Leicester great, a legend, he probably won't, but those who weren't fortunate to witness better teams and better days in the top flight and Europe have this to cling onto.

 

They shouldn't be blamed for supporting Pearson early this season when he's been the best they've had. Older, possibly wiser supporters had reservations and the ability to look back to a greater past to compare.

 

Yes, some will worship him, some will support, some will dislike. Naturally the younger element will veer towards worship but there is no doubt everyone wants better than this performance. No-one is going to stop supporting us if Pearson goes, he's one of many managers we've had and will continue to have. All this Pearsonite nonsense is unfair on the vast majority of the fans who like or rate him.

 

I've just noticed Col has said the same thing I am about to say but you've got it spot on in your last paragraph mate. That is probably why some people who can't remember what O'Neill did and if you are lucky enough to have seen Jock Wallace and Jimmy Bloomfield's eras, can quantify that same success. We all acknowledge that Nigel has been a good manager over his two spells here (even I despite never being a big fan of him as a person) but this season he has completely undermined all his achievements of the last 2 years in particular. I think we would all be sitting here a lot more appeased if we were doing a Burnley, giving it a go, and if it didn't work - no one can say we aren't trying. Yesterday's 'effort' though was an insult to some Sunday league games. Abysmal.

 

He has got to go for the sake of the club. The players look like they have run out of all confidence and when he comes out and publicly makes comments about one or two unnamed players not stepping up like he has done in the past & then his post match comments after he vowed he wouldn't be that stupid again makes his position untenable. 

 

I cannot believe the inevitability this situation has caused - we are all resigned to relegation now. I don't want that from my club. We have a sign in the tunnel that says 'Foxes Never Quit' - it is time we start living up to that.

[hackneyfox]

Why is it mostly illiterate 40 something's that detest Pearson, I can understand why you'd want him sacked but it's a bit weird how people get worked up so much about it.

And just to prove my point .......

[BlueJoe]

Not as far as I can tell, at least the Foxestalk numbers are misleading - it's just too easy to take this weekend's increased influx of the "Out" mob on here as a case in point. So far, it acts as the exception to the rule.

However, I can sense a lot of people who've argued in favour of the manager in the past now reassessing their views.

One thing is clear - we can't continue playing like we did yesterday against Hull. Even against ten men, we were suddenly on the brink of losing the game if it hadn't been for Schwarzer's save against Hernandez.

We can't continue playing like we did???

We have done all season so why can't we continue? You speak as if we are 10 games in? This forum is full of people that have accepted us being off the pace of this league all season!!! Enough is enough!

If anyone thinks this clown would get us promoted again they are deluded! Look at the championship this year. The top 6 are separated by 2/3 points! We got our chance to get out and took it. Shame we have let this hot head stay in the driving seat for so long!

Time to regroup and start all over again! Here's to the next 10 years!!!

[hackneyfox]

Never got the love in for pearson, been vile on numerous occasions, never took to him, lost me with the first " if you don't like it don't come" against Leeds.

In my opinion he's just full of self importance, and always thinks he better than he is, and just becomes aggressive, and behaves like a child who has had its toys took off them, if things go bad, and refuses to answer any questions he doesn't like.

The truth is he doesn't answer them, because he hasn't got a clue where he's getting it wrong, or how to put it right, so he acts like a bully in the play ground to hide his failings.

Just wish he would just **** off now, but a bloke with his ego, arrogants, and delusion is grandeur will not have it in him and resign.

With you col, Oneill was the bollocks, never had a manager anywhere near good enough to clean his boots, and sadly may never again.

He lost me with the team he put out in his first home play off game, he bottled it then.

Totally went off the guy with his first (and conveniently forgotten by MC prussian etc) 'if you don't like it ...'

The awful runs that he's overseen haven't helped either.

 

Although I don't think it was the footballing miracle that many claim I do appreciate him giving the club some pride back when we got relegated to the third.

Last season and all those broken records will always be in our memories but it's time he left as quickly as possible.

[Corky]

Didn't the term 'Pearsonite' start because some of his supporters started throwing the term 'haters' around?

 

I don't know. There's good and bad on both sides, reasoned and hostile. I suppose it's rare a manager divides people so much. I would say, at a guess, the younger generation support him and the older section are not huge fans, but I'm sure plenty of all ages have their likes and dislikes about him.

 

I don't think anyone views him as the best ever and no-one supports the club because of him. Who wanted him before League One? I don't remember any chants for him to return when he was at Hull. I honestly don't think many fans will pine for him when he leaves.

[LCFCSOULBOY]

Think it's time for a PEARSON OUT campaign to the owners.

I think how could anything be any worse than this?

Whoever is out there can do no worse, and at least they will get to pick a different team for the remainder of this terrible season so far. Player, coach, anybody will and pulse will be better. 

I would let some of the youngsters  have a crack for experience. We will need them next season in the Championship. Let's face facts there will be an exodus.

Should have new person in charge to off load all the over paid 4 year contract (3 remaining) not good enough for prime time players.

Find some with more PL experience and talent. We are spending freely so why not.

[hackneyfox]

 I don't remember any chants for him to return when he was at Hull. I honestly don't think many fans will pine for him when he leaves.

Had he left at the end of last season many would have but the awful football served up for most of this season, strange team selections and unbelievable substitutions means he will be seen by many as one of our worst ever top flight managers. 

[justfoxes]

I think Martin O'Neil has to be the best manager I've seen at our great club I didn't have the pleasure of seeing Bloomfield or Wallace but O'Neill took the boo boys and the ONeill out brigade and turn every Leicester fan into a Martin O'Neil loving admiration and wanting the pope to give a saint hood too and ringing the Samaritans when he left to go to Celtic !

I remember the banners after 6 weeks of awful football only for him to turn us round to be one of the most successful Leicester City sides in our history,would I like him back at city,?? NO I would hate it to hear the younger fans boo him if we played awful under him the bloke is a god and a legend and I want to leave it that way never go back after such great success as failure is an awful thing for a top bloke like MON !

I'm hoping next time the owners go for time to pick our next manager as I feel Pearson was a knee jerk signing after sacking Ericsson and was the wrong choice for us but if we go down we can re group and start all over again for another return to the premier league and let's hope this time it only takes us one year this time around and not another decade as before and will we do it without Pearson ?????

I BLOODY HOPE SO as he's shown us a different side to him this season of which I and a few or a lot of us don't care for,but li,e before I said I hope the board can get in a decent ,manager with premier league experience one to keep us in the top flight for years to come !

Cheers City fans !

Onwards and upwards etc etc etc etc !!

[Corky]

Being sacked after a club record breaking season would've been odd. Sacking now wouldn't be. There will be no chants for him to return should he leave at any stage from here on in. If the next manager gets off to a great start or is a big character most will get behind them. It happened with Sven, in his first home game Pearson returned with Hull and I don't recall a chant about Pearson during the match (got clapped after it).

[Stadt]

And just to prove my point .......

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I wouldn't care if he was sacked but I don't despise him, I've been a little bit miffed with some of his decisions but he's the best manager I've ever seen at the club so I have a bit more respect for him than people that can hark back to the MON days but that doesn't mean people can't appreciate what he's done here.

[MC Prussian]

I see gingerfox and mc Prussian are embarrassing themselves again with there insane pro Pearson ramblings. 'Fans' like them deserve lower league football, its just a massive shame for the rest of us, but hopefully they will relocate there support for Nigel to morecombe or wherever he ends up next.

I've witnessed lower league football - in League One, with Leicester City FC. And I don't want to go there again (although the football on display was entertaining and so were the away days).

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

I find it rather ironic that the people who label Pearson as 'arrogant' are exactly that themselves. Of course every City fan wants to see us do better than this in the top flight, but the entitlement attitude of most of the older generation of fans is ridiculous.

 

Football is a completely different game now as to what it was, even as recent as the O'Neill days. The money aspect of it means that teams coming up from the Championship are always going to struggle to stay up. The 3 teams that are going down this year are likely to be the three that went up, and the gulf is increasing year on year as the money increases. Back in MON days money wasn't as big, he bought a team of has beens and nobodies and got them to mid table, which is a feat that couldn't be emulated today because of the strength of the league.

 

So stop living in the past and harping on about past managers and comparing because it is a false comparison. Leicester City have spent half their existence outside the top flight of English football, and in recent history only competed in 7 of the 20 Premier League seasons. So why should we, as fans expect our club to be in the Premier League? I'm sure fans of Portsmouth, Forest, Leeds, Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United etc also think of themselves as clubs who should be in the Premier League. We are a club who notoriously for our entire existence yo-yo between the top 2 divisions. 

 

Getting a team relegated who were expected to be relegated is not a gross underachievement as made out by the vast amount of our hyperbolic, over reactionary fans make out. If we play like we did yesterday though, with no fight, no desire, no urgency then I could understand the want for change. But even then the disrespect shown by the Anti Pearson lot is embarrassing to him as a person. He dragged us from our lowest ever point in our history, and also gave us our greatest success in almost 20 years yet is called every name under the sun is a disgrace. If we part ways in the summer which I expect (but not want) I hope he gets the respect he deserves when he returns to the KP in the future instead of the embarrassing abuse he receives by some of our so called 'fans' at the minute.

[Webbo]

I find it rather ironic that the people who label Pearson as 'arrogant' are exactly that themselves. Of course every City fan wants to see us do better than this in the top flight, but the entitlement attitude of most of the older generation of fans is ridiculous.

 

Football is a completely different game now as to what it was, even as recent as the O'Neill days. The money aspect of it means that teams coming up from the Championship are always going to struggle to stay up. The 3 teams that are going down this year are likely to be the three that went up, and the gulf is increasing year on year as the money increases. Back in MON days money wasn't as big, he bought a team of has beens and nobodies and got them to mid table, which is a feat that couldn't be emulated today because of the strength of the league.

 

So stop living in the past and harping on about past managers and comparing because it is a false comparison. Leicester City have spent half their existence outside the top flight of English football, and in recent history only competed in 7 of the 20 Premier League seasons. So why should we, as fans expect our club to be in the Premier League? I'm sure fans of Portsmouth, Forest, Leeds, Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United etc also think of themselves as clubs who should be in the Premier League. We are a club who notoriously for our entire existence yo-yo between the top 2 divisions. 

 

 

Because we won the championship last season

 

 

Getting a team relegated who were expected to be relegated is not a gross underachievement as made out by the vast amount of our hyperbolic, over reactionary fans make out. If we play like we did yesterday though, with no fight, no desire, no urgency then I could understand the want for change. But even then the disrespect shown by the Anti Pearson lot is embarrassing to him as a person. He dragged us from our lowest ever point in our history, and also gave us our greatest success in almost 20 years yet is called every name under the sun is a disgrace. If we part ways in the summer which I expect (but not want) I hope he gets the respect he deserves when he returns to the KP in the future instead of the embarrassing abuse he receives by some of our so called 'fans' at the minute

 

 

It's a gross underachievement to be bottom for 2 thirds of the season, to be below QPR and Burnley and to have won 4 games all season.

[Guy]

He lost me with the team he put out in his first home play off game, he bottled it then.

Totally went off the guy with his first (and conveniently forgotten by MC prussian etc) 'if you don't like it ...'

The awful runs that he's overseen haven't helped either.

 

Although I don't think it was the footballing miracle that many claim I do appreciate him giving the club some pride back when we got relegated to the third.

Last season and all those broken records will always be in our memories but it's time he left as quickly as possible.

At the end of the day if we hadn't won at F*rest on the last day of 2012/13 to scrape into the play offs (after that abysmal 17 winless games run that had preceded it), then he wouldn't be in the driving seat still. While it was the right decision to keep Pearson on after the play offs disappointment against Watford to successfully oversee last season, now that day at Forest two seasons ago has since proved to be a mixed blessing in many regards. We should've definitely 'got rid' in December though.......regardless of how well he did for us in his first spell and for last season.

[Guy]

Think it's time for a PEARSON OUT campaign to the owners.

I think how could anything be any worse than this?

Whoever is out there can do no worse, and at least they will get to pick a different team for the remainder of this terrible season so far. Player, coach, anybody will and pulse will be better. 

I would let some of the youngsters  have a crack for experience. We will need them next season in the Championship. Let's face facts there will be an exodus.

Should have new person in charge to off load all the over paid 4 year contract (3 remaining) not good enough for prime time players.

Find some with more PL experience and talent. We are spending freely so why not.

I know it's easy to say now but a shame we never got Tim Sherwood in!

[MC Prussian]

Far more sides stay up in the PL upon promotion, than win promotion from the Championship upon relegation. 

You are right, here are the stats for everyone to see:

 

- Out of the 70 teams relegated since the 1992/1993 season, 16 have managed to come straight back up

- Out of the 68 teams promoted since the 1992/1993 season, 35 have been relegated after only one season

 

Notice the slightly skewed stats due to only two teams promoted, but four teams demoted in 1994/95.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Mark my words Monsey... As a City fan of more years than I care to remember, and a season ticket holder of nearly the same amount of years, there is no-one more peeved than I am that Pearson has failed to deliver this season.

BUT....my love is with LCFC..not Nigel Pearson

I had a huge amount of adoration for Martin O'Neil. I loved his passion. I loved his touch line antics, his fists raised..most of all, I loved how when he picked a team, I knew why...I understood.

Nigel Pearson..the miserable hater of the media, the sitter in the stands (even when we HAD to win a game), is not fit to kiss MON's boots mate.

Great post Col

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I've just noticed Col has said the same thing I am about to say but you've got it spot on in your last paragraph mate. That is probably why some people who can't remember what O'Neill did and if you are lucky enough to have seen Jock Wallace and Jimmy Bloomfield's eras, can quantify that same success. We all acknowledge that Nigel has been a good manager over his two spells here (even I despite never being a big fan of him as a person) but this season he has completely undermined all his achievements of the last 2 years in particular. I think we would all be sitting here a lot more appeased if we were doing a Burnley, giving it a go, and if it didn't work - no one can say we aren't trying. Yesterday's 'effort' though was an insult to some Sunday league games. Abysmal.

He has got to go for the sake of the club. The players look like they have run out of all confidence and when he comes out and publicly makes comments about one or two unnamed players not stepping up like he has done in the past & then his post match comments after he vowed he wouldn't be that stupid again makes his position untenable.

I cannot believe the inevitability this situation has caused - we are all resigned to relegation now. I don't want that from my club. We have a sign in the tunnel that says 'Foxes Never Quit' - it is time we start living up to that.

Great post again Robin

[Babylon]

I think he's almost finally lost me after Saturday. There just seems to be almost no joined up thinking with what he's trying to do, I'm not sure what he believes in any more. You obviously sign Ulloa and then Kramaric because you want to play a certain way, if that's the case then have the conviction to follow it through. Did he really envisage Ulloa on the bench and Kramaric out wide of a front three when he signed them? As it stands we'd have been better off spending £8m on a CB and £8m on a CM rather than two strikers who you don't play or play out of position.

 

Then we have the substitutions, people were moaning about keeping 3 at the back to start with during the subs, I didn't mind that. What pissed me off was we brought Lawrence on to play the wide midfield position instead of De Laet. Then 5/10 minutes later we switch to a four and them shove him at right back... that just didn't make sense to me. If you wanted to switch to a four then do it with the first round of substitutions. As it was it ended up being a wasted sub as he then got shoved at right back. Utterly pointless.

 

I wish the bloke would have just stuck to what he always believed in (4-4-2) and gone like that for the whole season. Rather than fecking about every other week with a new formation and new team. You signed these players to play a certain way, the squad was assembled for that so just bloody stick to it.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I think he's almost finally lost me after Saturday. There just seems to be almost no joined up thinking with what he's trying to do, I'm not sure what he believes in any more. You obviously sign Ulloa and then Kramaric because you want to play a certain way, if that's the case then have the conviction to follow it through. Did he really envisage Ulloa on the bench and Kramaric out wide of a front three when he signed them? As it stands we'd have been better off spending £8m on a CB and £8m on a CM rather than two strikers who you don't play or play out of position.

Then we have the substitutions, people were moaning about keeping 3 at the back to start with during the subs, I didn't mind that. What pissed me off was we brought Lawrence on to play the wide midfield position instead of De Laet. Then 5/10 minutes later we switch to a four and them shove him at right back... that just didn't make sense to me. If you wanted to switch to a four then do it with the first round of substitutions. As it was it ended up being a wasted sub as he then got shoved at right back. Utterly pointless.

I wish the bloke would have just stuck to what he always believed in (4-4-2) and gone like that for the whole season. Rather than fecking about every other week with a new formation and new team. You signed these players to play a certain way, the squad was assembled for that so just bloody stick to it.

Good post Babs

[teblin]

I think he's almost finally lost me after Saturday. There just seems to be almost no joined up thinking with what he's trying to do, I'm not sure what he believes in any more. You obviously sign Ulloa and then Kramaric because you want to play a certain way, if that's the case then have the conviction to follow it through. Did he really envisage Ulloa on the bench and Kramaric out wide of a front three when he signed them? As it stands we'd have been better off spending £8m on a CB and £8m on a CM rather than two strikers who you don't play or play out of position.

 

Then we have the substitutions, people were moaning about keeping 3 at the back to start with during the subs, I didn't mind that. What pissed me off was we brought Lawrence on to play the wide midfield position instead of De Laet. Then 5/10 minutes later we switch to a four and them shove him at right back... that just didn't make sense to me. If you wanted to switch to a four then do it with the first round of substitutions. As it was it ended up being a wasted sub as he then got shoved at right back. Utterly pointless.

 

I wish the bloke would have just stuck to what he always believed in (4-4-2) and gone like that for the whole season. Rather than fecking about every other week with a new formation and new team. You signed these players to play a certain way, the squad was assembled for that so just bloody stick to it.

 

I was saying exactly the same yesterday. 

 

We were successful last season by having having a high tempo, pace and attacking teams. This season we haven't seemed to have a specific game plan, other than against the big team.

 

I was always a supporter of pearson, but he lost that support from me a fair while ago. Saturday just confirmed that for me.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

I think he's almost finally lost me after Saturday. There just seems to be almost no joined up thinking with what he's trying to do, I'm not sure what he believes in any more. You obviously sign Ulloa and then Kramaric because you want to play a certain way, if that's the case then have the conviction to follow it through. Did he really envisage Ulloa on the bench and Kramaric out wide of a front three when he signed them? As it stands we'd have been better off spending £8m on a CB and £8m on a CM rather than two strikers who you don't play or play out of position.

Then we have the substitutions, people were moaning about keeping 3 at the back to start with during the subs, I didn't mind that. What pissed me off was we brought Lawrence on to play the wide midfield position instead of De Laet. Then 5/10 minutes later we switch to a four and them shove him at right back... that just didn't make sense to me. If you wanted to switch to a four then do it with the first round of substitutions. As it was it ended up being a wasted sub as he then got shoved at right back. Utterly pointless.

I wish the bloke would have just stuck to what he always believed in (4-4-2) and gone like that for the whole season. Rather than fecking about every other week with a new formation and new team. You signed these players to play a certain way, the squad was assembled for that so just bloody stick to it.

This is exactly it, great post.

[SecretPro]

I think he's almost finally lost me after Saturday. There just seems to be almost no joined up thinking with what he's trying to do, I'm not sure what he believes in any more. You obviously sign Ulloa and then Kramaric because you want to play a certain way, if that's the case then have the conviction to follow it through. Did he really envisage Ulloa on the bench and Kramaric out wide of a front three when he signed them? As it stands we'd have been better off spending £8m on a CB and £8m on a CM rather than two strikers who you don't play or play out of position.

 

Then we have the substitutions, people were moaning about keeping 3 at the back to start with during the subs, I didn't mind that. What pissed me off was we brought Lawrence on to play the wide midfield position instead of De Laet. Then 5/10 minutes later we switch to a four and them shove him at right back... that just didn't make sense to me. If you wanted to switch to a four then do it with the first round of substitutions. As it was it ended up being a wasted sub as he then got shoved at right back. Utterly pointless.

 

I wish the bloke would have just stuck to what he always believed in (4-4-2) and gone like that for the whole season. Rather than fecking about every other week with a new formation and new team. You signed these players to play a certain way, the squad was assembled for that so just bloody stick to it.

 

Babs!

 

If Pearson has lost Babs, then its over. surely?

[Bettsj2]

I think he's almost finally lost me after Saturday. There just seems to be almost no joined up thinking with what he's trying to do, I'm not sure what he believes in any more. You obviously sign Ulloa and then Kramaric because you want to play a certain way, if that's the case then have the conviction to follow it through. Did he really envisage Ulloa on the bench and Kramaric out wide of a front three when he signed them? As it stands we'd have been better off spending £8m on a CB and £8m on a CM rather than two strikers who you don't play or play out of position.

Then we have the substitutions, people were moaning about keeping 3 at the back to start with during the subs, I didn't mind that. What pissed me off was we brought Lawrence on to play the wide midfield position instead of De Laet. Then 5/10 minutes later we switch to a four and them shove him at right back... that just didn't make sense to me. If you wanted to switch to a four then do it with the first round of substitutions. As it was it ended up being a wasted sub as he then got shoved at right back. Utterly pointless.

I wish the bloke would have just stuck to what he always believed in (4-4-2) and gone like that for the whole season. Rather than fecking about every other week with a new formation and new team. You signed these players to play a certain way, the squad was assembled for that so just bloody stick to it.