Webbo Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I seem to remember people saying that there was more of an argument for sacking him if we stayed up but keeping him if we went down as he knew how to get us out of the Championship? Anyway, he's earned himself until at least Xmas with this turnaround. Not sure he should get the same level of patience he's had this season if we#re struggling again.
MPH Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 This bit is concerning, I agree... Im ok with a manager who is having his first season in the prem taking time to get used to it. But if the pattern is repeated next season then we need to get rid EARLY and not leave it dragging. Some of the turn around has also got to go down to the arrival of Huth.. He's been immense and you can see even Morgan growing in confidence having a brick in the side next to him. I do seem to remember Nigel saying it was difficult getting players to join us because of the position we were in...
cc_star Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Original poster's agenda is showing through in all replies, the original points is worthy of conversation, but framing since then is just agenda-driven and a complete failure to take on board any counter point Sounds nothing more than a Stringer alias The only person who needs to be worried come then of the season is you Ian, bye
Dan Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Is a potential 9 game run going to overshadow: 1) **** off & die 2) McArthur (and then Lineker spat) 3) Pr*ck 4) Ostrich (and Pat Murphy) Add to that a 13 game run with no wins, an 8 game run with no wins, £10m on a bit-part striker etc etc I am concerned still... If it keeps us in the Premier League? For me no it shouldn't. I got the feeling Kramaric was signed to be the difference to keep us up, but the more it goes on it looks like he's one for the future. Great stuff if we stay up. Still think he'll leave if we go down though.
EnglishOxide Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 No chance. He has moved us forward with every season. If he keeps us up he has achieved his goals. We could potentially still finish 13th/14th. That's not bad for your first PL season. And that stat about us not losing by more than 2 goals this season illustrates how competitive we have been whilst they are all learning on the job. He has been with us for a long time now, its his castle he has built from players to coaching staff and philosophy to style. I'm suprised at the constant pessism of his job security. If the 12/13 season is anything to go by, we are on for a much improved, possibly top 10 finish, next season. If we stay up of course.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Why do people think if we start slowly next season we should get rid (saying we stay up?) He's already turned it round this season, he would probably turn it around again, thinking we should be going ahead and doing a Southampton/Swansea next season is simply pie in the sky, second season sydrome is a thing, not that I'm lacking ambition but you have to think long term, I'd snap your hand off for 17th next season if you offered me it now.
whoareyaaa Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 This forum used to be good, what a waste of internet space same guff surely you didn't need to start a new thread about this right now?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?? If he keeps us up his has achieved what the owners wanted, why the **** would they move him on? sorry but just the same rubbish every time you log on here. **** sake
MooseBreath Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 If they were going to sack him for off the field antics I think they would have done it already. I don't think "Thai respect culture" makes any difference. As individuals I doubt the owners are any more or less guided by the principle of respect than anyone else. If anything, you could argue that Buddhist principles might make them more willing to overlook minor flaws in NP's off field management in order to concentrate on the bigger picture. On the field, I think this turnaround has earned him the right to start next season regardless of what division were in.
The Doctor Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Is a potential 9 game run going to overshadow: 1) **** off & die 2) McArthur (and then Lineker spat) 3) Pr*ck 4) Ostrich (and Pat Murphy) Add to that a 13 game run with no wins, an 8 game run with no wins, £10m on a bit-part striker etc etc I am concerned still... Just to go back to this, 1-3 there were footballing reasons for him to be sacked (going down with a whimper and bottling key games) - between the performances on field and the drama off field he could have been a prime candidate for the sack. His behaviour clearly didn't matter if they were willing to overlook it when there were genuine footballing reasons to give him the P45
Finn Claw II Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 At the end of the season he will be one win from either being a genius or a failure. Fine lines! His only really really bad onfield decisions were the odd players formations played in our really bad spell. The players are playing for him, compare that to Newcastle. Whether we are 18th or 17th my view is to keep him. Staying in the premier league is fooking hard work. The difficulty should not be overlooked.
shailen Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I think we have proved throughout the season we belong in the PL. Apart from that 11 game run where we looked well off the pace we have been magnificent and played well. A lot of people were questioning whether our defence could handle the PL. We have never given away a two goal deficit. People criticised NP when he brought Vardy and Nugent back. They proved to be the sparks for our recent turn around. There are a lot more examples of the criticism that NP has got. The 3-5-2 formation before the Arsenal match was criticised heavily as well. He has proved more times than not, that he is a capable manager. Obviously not everything has gone right, but the players have to take some of the blame for not taking the chances we have created, you cannot always point to a manager. As for the media stuff. Are we really going to judge NP on that basis? Fergie was that vicious to the media, if not worse. For me, he's just being honest. I bet someone like Roberto Martinez who seems like the nicest guy, gets pi**ed off camera, but chooses to portray a different persona. NP is like a breath of fresh air. I do buy the argument about protecting the players a little bit, but on the whole I think he is just expressing his opinion honestly. Going on the past and the present, NP has always been successful at this club. Yes we have had losing streaks, but each and every time we have put that right. I've seen so many managers since Micky Adams come in and fail, including big spending Sven. He is the only one to have come in and be successful. Enough about him not having premier league experience. He never had League 1 experience when we were there. He didn't have much Championship experience and we did well. A good manager can prove himself in any league, and for me he has made all the managerial moves to manovure the club forward. Financially, we have been very astute and tactically spot on. I don't understand what some people want from the club. We will exceed expectations by staying in this league.
nnfox Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I said a few months ago that if we went down he would stay (he knows the Championship, proven successful manager there, blah blah blah) and if we stay up, he will go. There have been so many ups and downs this season. No matter how good the feeling is now in our current situation, it wasn't that long ago that everyone was questioning his tactics/substitutions/behaviour and I think on balance, the owners will want to press on with establishing us as a longer term prospect in the Prem. First objective was to reach the Prem, next to stay there and then thirdly, grow. Pearson managed the first one, might do the second but the third might be a step too far for him. The owners may well take inspiration from the Southampton situation with Adkins/Pochettino/Koeman. Personally, I'd like Pearson to stay - it's been a fantastic journey and still some miles to go. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go if we do stay up.
Max Power Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I think they're savvy enough to have a eye open for a potential Pochettino-type upgrade but I'd be staggered if we stayed up and he wasn't here next season.
yorkie1999 Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I think he'll still be here for a few more years, well his contract says that anyway, and he'll be given £80 million warchest if we stay up.
RedSoxUK Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Managerial consistency is the key to success at any level in football.
Lionheart Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 He will stay whatever happens and that is a good thing stability leads to success.
MC Prussian Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I think the squad have always put 100% effort in through-out the season. What’s changed is the formation. The 541 or 342 whatever has really played to our players’ strengths. Team selection. No more Upson ahead of Was. No more Vardy as a winger, no more Simpson or Konch as wing-backs (except to cover injury). No more Tom Lawrence instead of Albrighton. No more Matty James as attacking midfielder and taking set-pieces. No more Schwarzer. Secondly, the inclusion of Huth. Defensively we are so much more resilient. Finally Vardy. He’s been amazing the last few games (when played in his correct position). Pearson has done amazing with this turn-around. But it does make you wonder why it took him so long to correct the glaring shortcomings of the side. Who says it was the manager's shortcomings alone that were responsible for our dire run last year (or even up until this February)? Running a successful enterprise such as a football club involves a lot more individuals and their skills. The manager is just one piece of it (albeit the one with the most (media) exposure).
MC Prussian Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I seem to remember people saying that there was more of an argument for sacking him if we stayed up but keeping him if we went down as he knew how to get us out of the Championship? Anyway, he's earned himself until at least Xmas with this turnaround. Not sure he should get the same level of patience he's had this season if we#re struggling again. I can recall a plethora of votes on here calling for his head, and that not just coming from the usual suspects - not exactly a generous amount of patience wasted back then...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 I think he will be staying, no matter how we do, but if we are struggling after a dozen games or so, then he will get the "big boot".
katieakita Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 The BBC has made a big thing of this Radio Leicester highlight this by not interviewing him, think him and the players have every right to take issue with Ian Stringer and Radio Leicester could easily use someone else to speak to the manager or the players. The BBC made a mountain of a molehill over the Palace incident and who does Pat Murphy work for? Carver abusing his own players was far more of a story and the likes of a certain Chelsea manager and Fergie wouldn't even speak to the Beeb.
Nick Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Im ok with a manager who is having his first season in the prem taking time to get used to it. But if the pattern is repeated next season then we need to get rid EARLY and not leave it dragging. Don't mean to be rude but that just says to me you've learnt nothing from this season. I think he will be staying, no matter how we do, but if we are struggling after a dozen games or so, then he will get the "big boot". And you.
sylofox Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 Must admit... i was surprised when he talked about how Newcastle was a fantastic club and how there are still some great people there from when he was working there ( after the newcastle game) ... I cant help but think that if Newcastle did come knocking in the summer that the Thais might not put up much resistance to him staying... But that would be more linked to the off the field issues than any onfield ones.. maybe. So he thinks there are still some wonderful people at Newcastle? I am sure there is but a **** for an owner. He like everyone else knows that could be a 3 month job. Why would he risk that. Sorry he may like people there don't mean he would go back.
Thracian Posted 5 May 2015 Posted 5 May 2015 As ever I think it depends on which Pearson is holding the tactical clipboard. I've ebbed and flowed with frustration this season - and during other seasons - because, sometimes, I simply don't understand our tactics, our strategic decisions including team selection, our over caution, our failure to address certain important basics to our considerable cost in the "goals for" column and so on. I also find it frustrating to hear Pearson sounding so rational, supportive and constructive at times but then sounding like a naive reactionary who seems way out of his depth in coping with the media. But take out last six matches alone and you'd have to wonder how on earth we found ourselves in the bottom three at all. So many things are being done now that weren't being done before. It all suggests that Pearson can do the job (he just gets himself in a trough sometimes) and while it's damned easy to sack a manager it's not so easy to get a better replacement and especially when, in our case, they are all - or virtually all - "Pearson" players now. Most of us knew it would be a "survival" season from the off and I wasn't generally impressed with our pre-season efforts in terms of strengthening the squad for all that there have been positives - Huth for sure plus Cambiasso, Ulloa and Albrighton in patches. But we've given ourselves as good a chance of surviving as I expected on the season's first day and I'd give Pearson the benefit of any doubt for next season whether we secure our status or not. Assuming he wants to stay here of course. As ever I think it depends on which Pearson is holding the tactical clipboard. I've ebbed and flowed with frustration this season - and during other seasons - because, sometimes, I simply don't understand our tactics, our strategic decisions including team selection, our over caution, our failure to address certain important basics to our considerable cost in the "goals for" column and so on. I also find it frustrating to hear Pearson sounding so rational, supportive and constructive at times but then sounding like a naive reactionary who seems way out of his depth in coping with the media. But take out last six matches alone and you'd have to wonder how on earth we found ourselves in the bottom three at all. So many things are being done now that weren't being done before. It all suggests that Pearson can do the job (he just gets himself in a trough sometimes) and while it's damned easy to sack a manager it's not so easy to get a better replacement and especially when, in our case, they are all - or virtually all - "Pearson" players now. Most of us knew it would be a "survival" season from the off and I wasn't generally impressed with our pre-season efforts in terms of strengthening the squad for all that there have been positives - Huth for sure plus Cambiasso, Ulloa and Albrighton in patches. But we've given ourselves as good a chance of surviving as I expected on the season's first day and I'd give Pearson the benefit of any doubt for next season whether we secure our status or not. Assuming he wants to stay here of course.
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