David Nugent

[lgfualol]

  

Previous page mate.

 

Oh wow. I understand Simpson but surprised by Nugent being there. 

 

Looks like we might be seeing some more new faces after all..

[benpicko]

Assuming we start with two strikers tomorrow, we were probably only going to have two strikers on the bench anyway.

I doubt many would have put Nugent as one of those.

Who as the backup to Mahrez then? Kramarić who holds onto the ball for as long as possible, does 50 stepovers, and then loses the ball either by shooting or a poor cross? Okazaki who I don't think has played there but who everybody seems to think will be great there, yet is untested? Or Nugent who's shown time and time again that he'll get us playing well regardless of whether or not he scores?

[TMELcfc]

Love Nuge. Not a prem striker but every time he played we created a lot more. He made runs and found space that others didn't and worked his nuts off. Always felt he genuinely loved it here. If he goes then best of luck to him.

[lgfualol]

Who as the backup to Mahrez then? Kramarić who holds onto the ball for as long as possible, does 50 stepovers, and then loses the ball either by shooting or a poor cross? Okazaki who I don't think has played there but who everybody seems to think will be great there, yet is untested? Or Nugent who's shown time and time again that he'll get us playing well regardless of whether or not he scores?

 

Depends if ranran wants to play Mahrez as a CAM or winger I spose. By getting rid of Nugent it looks like we're going for the latter.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

To be fair there's a difference between making someone train with the u21s and a training session involving only the match day squad, of which Nugent isn't part of. If he's being forced to train with the u21s all week then I'd understand the outrage.

 

Very good point.

[ramadaone]

Not in the first team squad ( rightly or wrongly ) and 21's playing Man Utd on Monday in which he will probably involved if he isn't gone by then. Seems to make sense to me.

[Stevosevic]

Not in the first team squad ( rightly or wrongly ) and 21's playing Man Utd on Monday in which he will probably involved if he isn't gone by then. Seems to make sense to me.

Any news on incomings?

[RizLCFC]

Do Albert or ramadaone know if we will look to sign a replacement? Or is CR happy with 4 front line strikers?

[Swiper]

If he does get sold, I feel like CR came into this job with his mind made up about Nugent. Sucks for him because he played very solidly in the preseason and both of his goals were quality. 

 

Was anyone else surprised that we didn't see one minute of Vardy/Nugent together in the preseason, whether both up front or with Nuge in the hole? 

[Babylon]

Oh wow. I understand Simpson but surprised by Nugent being there.

Looks like we might be seeing some more new faces after all..

Those not in the squad always train with the u21's day before and even on Saturdays. We had all this under Pearson.

[Kitchandro]

Very gutted about players not in the squad training with the under 21s, nice way to boost team morale.

Even more gutted that Nuge isn't even in the squad for tomorrow. He is an important player for us. We will miss him. I am guessing Claudio is going to go with the big buys automatically over last years team.

Not how I would manage the team but hey I'm not the manager.

 

Whether it was Pearson or Ranieri, the right footballing decision was always going to be to phase Nugent out.

 

We need to be moving forward and as much as I respect Nugent's contribution since he's been here, he's just not quite good enough for this side, in any position.

 

There's no time for sentiment, he's 5th choice striker at the moment and rightly so. There isn't room for everyone in the squad.

 

Very harsh to start assuming that Ranieri is just going to pick the new players from the off considering you've not even seen his first competitive starting line-up. 

[Kitchandro]

Disagree. What evidence can you use to state he should be that far down the pecking order?

We are yet to see kramaric do anything special to see him earn a place. Okazaki has never played a prem game.

Vardes is obviously first choice, alongside him has to be Ulloa/kram. Leaving that cam role for Mahrez/ Nuge (see my previous post). That makes Nuge third choice to me, in a different role to the other strikers.

I think we desperately need Nuge to offer that something different to the other choices. He got many assists last term and scored a few also. How does that make him not good enough?

 

Are you for real? We 'desperately' need Nuge??? Come off it man.

 

If we've spent £7.5m on Okazaki I should bloody hope it's because he's better than Nugent. He's never threatened to score goals at this level and I don't buy all this about him being an attacking midfielder (playing behind a front two is not a striker). He's not tricky or creative enough for a start, there's more to being a Premier League player than running a lot (besides, we've got other players for that who do it better!)

 

You just sound like someone who's still sore about Pearson leaving, you won't move with the times. With all due respect, if we keep picking players like Nugent we'll be relegated.

[Ric Flair]

I sense Ranieri has been given the lowdown on the squad and the existing staff may have said Nugent was a bit part player. You only need to see how well we did without Nugent in those final games.

[Claridge]

Disagree. What evidence can you use to state he should be that far down the pecking order?

We are yet to see kramaric do anything special to see him earn a place. Okazaki has never played a prem game.

Vardes is obviously first choice, alongside him has to be Ulloa/kram. Leaving that cam role for Mahrez/ Nuge (see my previous post). That makes Nuge third choice to me, in a different role to the other strikers.

I think we desperately need Nuge to offer that something different to the other choices. He got many assists last term and scored a few also. How does that make him not good enough?

 

Are you blind? Good championship player at best.Do you really think another prem team will come in for him?

[Stevosevic]

Are you for real? We 'desperately' need Nuge??? Come off it man.

If we've spent £7.5m on Okazaki I should bloody hope it's because he's better than Nugent. He's never threatened to score goals at this level and I don't buy all this about him being an attacking midfielder (playing behind a front two is not a striker). He's not tricky or creative enough for a start, there's more to being a Premier League player than running a lot (besides, we've got other players for that who do it better!)

You just sound like someone who's still sore about Pearson leaving, you won't move with the times. With all due respect, if we keep picking players like Nugent we'll be relegated.

Well said, Pearson has bought 3 strikers since we were promoted, he was also going to phase out Nugent this season, highlighted by the fact he was only given a two year deal.

I like Nugent and appreciate what he's done for us, but we need to be looking at better.

[Lionheart]

Whether it was Pearson or Ranieri, the right footballing decision was always going to be to phase Nugent out.

 

We need to be moving forward and as much as I respect Nugent's contribution since he's been here, he's just not quite good enough for this side, in any position.

 

There's no time for sentiment, he's 5th choice striker at the moment and rightly so. There isn't room for everyone in the squad.

 

Very harsh to start assuming that Ranieri is just going to pick the new players from the off considering you've not even seen his first competitive starting line-up.

This is exactly right.

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

Wonder if the alleged stories about him getting alcohol poisoning and being sent home from Thailand early have brought this about

[Guest Papasmurf]

I've always been a fan of Nugent but don't think anybody can argue that he's very much 5th choice.

Deserves to play as he's still got a lot to offer. Guess that's got to be elsewhere.

[General Smuts]

He's scored some belters, been a great servant and a fantastic character for us over the past four years but unfortunately we can't have any room for sentiment - is he good enough for where we want to be heading?

 

Whilst there is an argument for the fact we do seem a better unit with Nuge in the side, some of his cameos last year were almost pornographically bad - I think Burnley at home in particular sticks out as one of the most infuriating appearances I've ever seen from him. He won't be on peanuts and if selling him frees up some room for manoeuvre to bring in someone we've already identified that can push us on in terms of squad quality, it's time to say goodbye. 

 

He'll be a fantastic signing for a Championship side and would easily bag 15+ for a decent side like Wednesday. Doesn't deserve half the stick he's got from a small minority of Twitter dribblies as on the whole he's been huge for us since he arrived and seems a great bloke so I can't help but wish him all the best if he does move on (and if he doesn't I'd be more than content to have him as a squad player), but unfortunately sometimes you have to be ruthless to improve.

 

 

The blind love for Nugent means that the minority I find myself in will need to shout louder to be heard.

 

Now I've had a fair bit of gin tonight and I;ve given up reading any further in the thread because I can'r read anymore sickly nonsense about how good he was ... for large chunks of last season I placed the blame almost solely on Nugent inability to finish chance after chance after chance. All year we heard - Leicester are playing well but just not getting the breaks - bollocks, the breaks were falling to Akinbiyi incarnate with a scouse accent.

 

I loved Nigent, I desperately wanted him to do well last season.Then he had a cheeky look at the linesman at Stamford Bridge instead of scoring. Then he played at home to Burnley. Then he took a touch in his own box made a needless challenge and gave away a penalty. I cheered along with everyone else when he tinged that volley in against Liverpool at home. I thought that would be the turning point. It wasn;t

 

Sentiment needs to go out of the window now. He was a big part of the reason we went up 2 years ago but he was also a big part of the reason we didn;t win a lot of games last year.

 

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[Guest ttfn]

He's scored some belters, been a great servant and a fantastic character for us over the past four years but unfortunately we can't have any room for sentiment - is he good enough for where we want to be heading?

Whilst there is an argument for the fact we do seem a better unit with Nuge in the side, some of his cameos last year were almost pornographically bad - I think Burnley at home in particular sticks out as one of the most infuriating appearances I've ever seen from him. He won't be on peanuts and if selling him frees up some room for manoeuvre to bring in someone we've already identified that can push us on in terms of squad quality, it's time to say goodbye.

He'll be a fantastic signing for a Championship side and would easily bag 15+ for a decent side like Wednesday. Doesn't deserve half the stick he's got from a small minority of Twitter dribblies as on the whole he's been huge for us since he arrived and seems a great bloke so I can't help but wish him all the best if he does move on (and if he doesn't I'd be more than content to have him as a squad player), but unfortunately sometimes you have to be ruthless to improve.

Nailed it.

Gd pst bdy

[ScouseFox]

The blind love for Nugent means that the minority I find myself in will need to shout louder to be heard.

Now I've had a fair bit of gin tonight and I;ve given up reading any further in the thread because I can'r read anymore sickly nonsense about how good he was ... for large chunks of last season I placed the blame almost solely on Nugent inability to finish chance after chance after chance. All year we heard - Leicester are playing well but just not getting the breaks - bollocks, the breaks were falling to Akinbiyi incarnate with a scouse accent.

I loved Nigent, I desperately wanted him to do well last season.Then he had a cheeky look at the linesman at Stamford Bridge instead of scoring. Then he played at home to Burnley. Then he took a touch in his own box made a needless challenge and gave away a penalty. I cheered along with everyone else when he tinged that volley in against Liverpool at home. I thought that would be the turning point. It wasn;t

Sentiment needs to go out of the window now. He was a big part of the reason we went up 2 years ago but he was also a big part of the reason we didn;t win a lot of games last year.

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smuts out

[chicagofox]

Is there actually any concrete evidence that A) Nugent is not in the squad for the Sunderlsnd game and/or B) He has been training with the U21's?

Or is it just the usual FT bollox (as I strongly suspect)?

[Bettsj2]

There comes a point where you have to say that you can do better.

Nugent is not Prem quality. He never has been and he's not going to be. If the reports are true and we can get nearly £1m for him we'd be dumb not too especially given our strike options now.

When we were promoted under MON, Kevin Poole had just performed heroics in the play-offs but he wasn't a Prem keeper so he was replaced.

You just have to do it if you want to progress.

[Foxhateram]

Are you for real? We 'desperately' need Nuge??? Come off it man.

 

If we've spent £7.5m on Okazaki I should bloody hope it's because he's better than Nugent. He's never threatened to score goals at this level and I don't buy all this about him being an attacking midfielder (playing behind a front two is not a striker). He's not tricky or creative enough for a start, there's more to being a Premier League player than running a lot (besides, we've got other players for that who do it better!)

 

You just sound like someone who's still sore about Pearson leaving, you won't move with the times. With all due respect, if we keep picking players like Nugent we'll be relegated.

Who paid for players etc is completely irrelevant, Pearson leaving is irrelevant as well.

What is relevant is the fact that Nuge played a big part in our squad last season and I am not the only one who comments on his assists, pressurising high up the pitch and fantastic link up play. You say he is not tricky enough? What is that? You don't need to do step overs and flicks to spread the play and assist with a pass, as for not creative enough, his assists stats over the last few seasons and Jamie Vardy in various interviews and goals he's scored says otherwise.

Furthermore, Okazaki is yet to prove himself at this level, along with Kramaric who has had plenty of time to do so. Funny how people are so quick to write off players that have been quality for us over the last few seasons. Your comment regarding it being unfair to judge CR on his player selections, we shall see what happens tomorrow, if he chucks Okazaki in at the deep end then we will struggle up top, he hasn't looked ready in pre-season at all. (Before you get all high and mighty, I am sure he will be great, with time)

I stand by my comment regarding Nugent offering something different to the other strikers. I honestly think we will miss him if ho goes.

[Richmondfox]

Who paid for players etc is completely irrelevant, Pearson leaving is irrelevant as well.

What is relevant is the fact that Nuge played a big part in our squad last season and I am not the only one who comments on his assists, pressurising high up the pitch and fantastic link up play. You say he is not tricky enough? What is that? You don't need to do step overs and flicks to spread the play and assist with a pass, as for not creative enough, his assists stats over the last few seasons and Jamie Vardy in various interviews and goals he's scored says otherwise.

Furthermore, Okazaki is yet to prove himself at this level, along with Kramaric who has had plenty of time to do so. Funny how people are so quick to write off players that have been quality for us over the last few seasons. Your comment regarding it being unfair to judge CR on his player selections, we shall see what happens tomorrow, if he chucks Okazaki in at the deep end then we will struggle up top, he hasn't looked ready in pre-season at all. (Before you get all high and mighty, I am sure he will be great, with time)

I stand by my comment regarding Nugent offering something different to the other strikers. I honestly think we will miss him if ho goes.

Nugent offered the same as the other strikers last season, too many wasted chances.