Foxhateram Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 Nugent offered the same as the other strikers last season, too many wasted chances. *yawns* his replacement is Krammy who was part of those strikers you refer to. Still awaiting evidence of anyone else in this squad being better at that number 10/ cam role than Nuge. I will happily be proven wrong if Mahrez can step up and be disciplined (love him, so would be great if he can), if Krammy can pressure high up the pitch and spread play quicker (how many step overs can he do in the centre circle? Want him to succeed but he needs to be less greedy), if Okazaki can prove himself, brilliant, until then, I would like to stick to the tried and tested approach and give those players who got us here and kept us here the chances they deserve.
chicagofox Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 I think Mahrez clearly demonstrated in the Rubin that he is a major improvement over Nugent in that role. But good luck to Nugent. I'm wouldn't be fussed if he stayed or left.
Tielemans63 Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 I love Nuge and think his contribution is hugely underestimated by many on here.However I also accept that he does waste a lot of chances and I can see why some think he's not quite top flight quality. In my view his general link up play just about makes up for that. However he isn't getting any younger and he's on high wages. I've got real mixed feelings about his (alleged) departure. If Kram was looking the business and Okazaki had hit the ground running then I'd say yes, thanks for everything but you're surplus to requirements. The facts are that Kram has looked okay at best so far in his LCFC career and Okazaki us completely unproven in the prem and will need time to adjust. With that in mind I'd like to see him loaned out on a 6 month loan. That way we are in a win-win situation; if there's injuries and/or Kram / Okazaki struggle then we can recall a perfectly capable player. Also, whilst on-loan he can only add value then, if everything is as it should be then we sell in january, and probably for a higher fee as clubs tend to panic a bit more in that Jan window. I'm not averse to selling him, I just think that as of right now and because of the unproven nature of at least two of our forwards, he's possibly more valuable then we think.
Webbo Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 There does seem to be an indecent haste to get rid of certain players. Ranieri didn't even see Konchesky during pre season and decided he had to go and now Nugent. I'd have thought he want to see how things went before making such decisions. Get rid in January, fair enough.
Foxhateram Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 I love Nuge and think his contribution is hugely underestimated by many on here.However I also accept that he does waste a lot of chances and I can see why some think he's not quite top flight quality. In my view his general link up play just about makes up for that. However he isn't getting any younger and he's on high wages. I've got real mixed feelings about his (alleged) departure. If Kram was looking the business and Okazaki had hit the ground running then I'd say yes, thanks for everything but you're surplus to requirements. The facts are that Kram has looked okay at best so far in his LCFC career and Okazaki us completely unproven in the prem and will need time to adjust. With that in mind I'd like to see him loaned out on a 6 month loan. That way we are in a win-win situation; if there's injuries and/or Kram / Okazaki struggle then we can recall a perfectly capable player. Also, whilst on-loan he can only add value then, if everything is as it should be then we sell in january, and probably for a higher fee as clubs tend to panic a bit more in that Jan window. I'm not averse to selling him, I just think that as of right now and because of the unproven nature of at least two of our forwards, he's possibly more valuable then we think. Oh good, I am not alone.
Lesta Legend Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 There does seem to be an indecent haste to get rid of certain players. Ranieri didn't even see Konchesky during pre season and decided he had to go and now Nugent. I'd have thought he want to see how things went before making such decisions. Get rid in January, fair enough.Maybe it suggests he is listening to existing staff who were at the club last year, just a thought...
Webbo Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 Maybe it suggests he is listening to existing staff who were at the club last year, just a thought... Possibly, but why then wasn't he told at the end of last season?
Richmondfox Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 If he is viewed as the striker at the bottom of the list then the club may be looking to get a bit of money for him, free up wages and squad position. Pointless going on loan as he only has a year left and he'll go for free like Knocky. I like Nuge, he still has a lot to offer a team but he's in a position where he's not going to be a regular starter for us and not a bit part player that comes on and does the job like Glenn Murray.
BoyJones Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 I love Nuge and think his contribution is hugely underestimated by many on here.However I also accept that he does waste a lot of chances and I can see why some think he's not quite top flight quality. In my view his general link up play just about makes up for that. However he isn't getting any younger and he's on high wages. I've got real mixed feelings about his (alleged) departure. If Kram was looking the business and Okazaki had hit the ground running then I'd say yes, thanks for everything but you're surplus to requirements. The facts are that Kram has looked okay at best so far in his LCFC career and Okazaki us completely unproven in the prem and will need time to adjust. With that in mind I'd like to see him loaned out on a 6 month loan. That way we are in a win-win situation; if there's injuries and/or Kram / Okazaki struggle then we can recall a perfectly capable player. Also, whilst on-loan he can only add value then, if everything is as it should be then we sell in january, and probably for a higher fee as clubs tend to panic a bit more in that Jan window. I'm not averse to selling him, I just think that as of right now and because of the unproven nature of at least two of our forwards, he's possibly more valuable then we think. A sensible post at this time of night. Nice one.
benpicko Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 The blind love for Nugent means that the minority I find myself in will need to shout louder to be heard. Now I've had a fair bit of gin tonight and I;ve given up reading any further in the thread because I can'r read anymore sickly nonsense about how good he was ... for large chunks of last season I placed the blame almost solely on Nugent inability to finish chance after chance after chance. All year we heard - Leicester are playing well but just not getting the breaks - bollocks, the breaks were falling to Akinbiyi incarnate with a scouse accent. I loved Nigent, I desperately wanted him to do well last season.Then he had a cheeky look at the linesman at Stamford Bridge instead of scoring. Then he played at home to Burnley. Then he took a touch in his own box made a needless challenge and gave away a penalty. I cheered along with everyone else when he tinged that volley in against Liverpool at home. I thought that would be the turning point. It wasn;t Sentiment needs to go out of the window now. He was a big part of the reason we went up 2 years ago but he was also a big part of the reason we didn;t win a lot of games last year. <Hodgson bin gif.> Stick to the tinder thread
Dan Posted 7 August 2015 Posted 7 August 2015 Nuge & Simpson training with the u21's which says it all really. Nuge is a top lad but needs to be playing regularly which obviously isn't going to happen here anymore. Been a great servant to us and played a massive part both on and off the pitch these past couple of yrs which we should be grateful for. All the best Nuge...thanks for the memory's What an absolute clown Ranieri is if he's doing that. Alienating a clearly popular character by making him train with the kids? I can understand selling Nugent, but I don't really see the need to make him train with the kids. He's doing his best to turn the players against him already if that's true.
enmac Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 When he didn't play in either pre-season friendlies last week we all knew that's it. We owe him. Good luck to him. Better for a competetive bloke to be playing elsewhere rather than just watching.
Foreverfox Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 What an absolute clown Ranieri is if he's doing that. Alienating a clearly popular character by making him train with the kids? I can understand selling Nugent, but I don't really see the need to make him train with the kids. He's doing his best to turn the players against him already if that's true. Everyone who does not make the first team match day squad trains with the U21s at the end of the week.Nothing new here it's happened for the last few years. He's not singling Nuge or anyone else out.
fox_favourite Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 Everyone who does not travel with the first team squad trains with the U21s at the end of the week. Nothing new here it's happened for the last few years. He's not singling Nuge or anyone else out. Exactly. Why do people want to pick faults with Ranieri even before he properly starts. It's almost like they want him to fail. I don't get it!!As for Nuge, the writing was on the wall with Pearson - not Ranieri. Who signed 2 strikers since Jan? Who gave him only a 2yr contract? Who had him as a sub mainly towards the end of last season? Answer...Pearson!! I'm a massive fan of the guy. His enthusiasm, work rate is infectious beyond belief and he's one of very few players that plays with a smile on his face. But I think the time is right for him to move on. We need to progress and it was going to happen at some point that we wouldn't be needed anymore. Pearson knew this, that's why he only got a 2yr contract. He was definitely worth keeping in our 1st season but then I thought he would be less involved in the second (if we had stayed up). If we didn't, then we knew we had a good Championship player on our hands. Like I say, I'm never going to to put the guy down, or slate him, as he's been brilliant for us. But its now time to move on, to let go. I'll be gutted if he goes, but it maybe for the best. Nuge - I salute you!!
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 Nugent has possibly been the most under-rated player by some people on this forum, for years. His movement, his attitude, his work-rate are all of Premiership quality. Added to that, he was the club's top scorer for two seasons running I think, at a time when his goals proved crucial in Pearson's promotion challenges. He's clearly liked by his team-mates and must be great to have around the club. Yes, at times, his finishing can be suspect and we've all seen him score goals he really shouldn't have, but miss them too. There have been many threads over the years, calling for him to be dropped, to be sold, and the such like. Every time, he's bounced back and given his doubters the proverbial kick in the goolies. If we sell Nugent, I'll miss having him at the club and will remember him as a bloke that gave us pretty much his all and was a crucial cog in our promotion into the Premiership.
Claudio Fannieri Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 Unfortunately for Nuge, he is top class in the championship but at prem level he does struggle to establish himself, that has been proved each time he has played at that level. He has been a brilliant signing for us, given his all and looks to be a great pro, but take sentiment away, if we are too seriously progress and build a team and squad capable of taking the club to the next level then I am afraid this is 100% the correct decision. I love Nuge but he isn't good enough for a club looking to progress to the next level just remember this happened to Steve Claridge under MON and he scored some massive goals in our history, it is just part of football evolution. Thanks Nuge for being a great pro and contributing to a fantastic period in our clubs history, but now is time to move on and good luck with your new club.
Guest Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 Wonder if the alleged stories about him getting alcohol poisoning and being sent home from Thailand early have brought this about This didn't happen.
eblair Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 the games against everton and spurs proved that vardy and nuge together are certainly premier league standard, people forget nuge was very good towards to beginning of our run and injury only prevented him from playing
Steven Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 At the beginning of last season there was a puff piece in a newspaper with an arty photo with Nugent saying he still had unfinished business in the PL. He still has. David Nugent: 'I have got unfinished business in the Premier League' http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/david-nugent-i-have-got-unfinished-business-in-the-premier-league-9664919.html
LcfcBaker Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 Are you for real? We 'desperately' need Nuge??? Come off it man. If we've spent £7.5m on Okazaki I should bloody hope it's because he's better than Nugent. He's never threatened to score goals at this level and I don't buy all this about him being an attacking midfielder (playing behind a front two is not a striker). He's not tricky or creative enough for a start, there's more to being a Premier League player than running a lot (besides, we've got other players for that who do it better!) You just sound like someone who's still sore about Pearson leaving, you won't move with the times. With all due respect, if we keep picking players like Nugent we'll be relegated. This is spot on. You know your stuff. Very surprised some can't see it
Bettsj2 Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 At the beginning of last season there was a puff piece in a newspaper with an arty photo with Nugent saying he still had unfinished business in the PL. He still has. David Nugent: 'I have got unfinished business in the Premier League' http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/david-nugent-i-have-got-unfinished-business-in-the-premier-league-9664919.html He said that before the start of last season. Its unfinished because he's not up to it.
Babylon Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 I think it's a bit early to be ditching him, purely because we have no idea if Kram or Shinji can step up just yet. For all the bumming of Kram he failed to impress last year, of course it can take time to settle and probably will, but Nuge often brought more when he was on the pitch. I'd have had him around playing the Chros Wood role, then looking to perhaps loan him out later on when we see the others step up. On top of that he was a huge presence off the pitch with the other lads. With all the change off the pitch already I'd have been looking to keep him around a bit longer.
Christoph Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 People keep saying Kram failed to impress but how many games did he even start? Couldn't have been a lot.
yorkie1999 Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 If Nuge was playing for Sunderland today, would people be worried he'd score. I would, because he's always going to be a threat. We've got to keep him. Okasaki may turn out to be crap in this league, vardy may get injured because of his style of play, then we'd be left with a slow centre forward and a young lad who again has not really done much.
ian_marshall Posted 8 August 2015 Posted 8 August 2015 Will be sad to see him go if the staff see him surplus to requirements. Always gives his all, runs the channels perfectly, and has proven to be a good goal scorer over the duration of his time with the club. Admittedly he's struggled to score goals at this level but in my opinion he does contribute a lot to the overall team performance. If this is true, I can only assume that our style of play is going to be changed under Ranieri and instead of playing a high tempo pressing game, we'll switch to a possession football approach with more technically sound players. If not, selling Nuge seems an odd decision as he along with Vardy operated as the first line of defence under Pearson constantly applying pressure to the opposition. I can't really see Ulloa nor Kramaric playing this role, and whilst Shinji does fit this mould surely the management team would want the option of being able to rotate personnel to avoid fatigue / overcome injuries. Having said that, it was evident at times last season that although the pressing approach worked well in the Championship forcing errors, in the Premier League, defenders seemed a lot more comfortable on the ball and despite the efforts of Vardy and Nugent most defenders seemed to handle the pressure pretty easily. It'll certainly be interesting to see what effect this has on the team moving forward. Hopefully it works out for all parties.
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