dogadug Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Oh, I'm predicting the pro-Pearson fans will use this and say Vardy should be sacked, just to use it as a stick to beat the owners with. The guy is our best forward, and worth at the minute, close to £15m. Sack him for a mistake? A public apology and a fine would be ok and would show we don't condone it. What on earth are you talking about? This has nothing to do with Pearson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensguardfox Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Haha so much tension its unreal! i live in Sheffield and people say in pubs and when your out and about that Jamie Vardy is a bit of a tosser with a attitude problem, an there is a reason why none of his family talk to him. They do say he thinks he is a bit of a wide boy and been told all sorts of stories about him at strocksbridge. That aside he clearly uses it in a racially derogatory way, should he be sacked? i hope not because we need him, Public apology and hope that is enough. It is mild in terms of racial comments that do exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Vid is on 1st page, don't see the other bloke. No way he can be sacked based on that video Video is on 1st page and is inconclusive Whoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Also, we're not sacking Jamie Vardy. IF we sack Jamie Vardy then the owners and club are idiotic - this isn't some slit-eye talk on official Leicester City duty, it's a booze up in the casino. The three lads were dispensable, Vardy is an England international, a Leicester City first teamer and has a big value and contribution to the game - if he's sacked then their will quite literally be a row of clubs waiting to pick him up, and I bet half the Premier League would be going for him. Signing a player of Vardy's calibre on a free, at his age and form with that tiny bit of a 'controversy; is what clubs like Aston Villa dream of. Regardless of the right or wrong of it all, this attitude is completely wrong. You are throwing away morals and respect because of a players ability. Seen it Suarez and Terry. Please let's not turn into one of those fan bases what will defend someone on their ability as a footballer. If Vardy is found to be guilty within the clubs investigation, then punishment will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImBlue Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 What on earth are you talking about? This has nothing to do with Pearson They're both from Sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc82 Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Also, we're not sacking Jamie Vardy. IF we sack Jamie Vardy then the owners and club are idiotic - this isn't some slit-eye talk on official Leicester City duty, it's a booze up in the casino. The three lads were dispensable, Vardy is an England international, a Leicester City first teamer and has a big value and contribution to the game - if he's sacked then their will quite literally be a row of clubs waiting to pick him up, and I bet half the Premier League would be going for him. Signing a player of Vardy's calibre on a free, at his age and form with that tiny bit of a 'controversy; is what clubs like Aston Villa dream of. ThisIf we sacked him he would at another prem team the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzlfox Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Jesus ****ing Christ. It's not the word, it's the context, it's the implication that all east-Asian people are/look the same. Why is this such a mind bending concept for people? The worst bit is that it's probably not even what he ****ing said but up comes the issue and out come all the mouth-breathing Troglodytes to defend racism because they're too sensitive to just admit they were a bit ignorant and didn't realise they held views that were offensive. Jesus H ****ing Christ. If - and it is an 'if' - he used the word Jap in the first place, and assuming you are correct in the context that he is implying that all East-Asian people look the same (and not merely making an incorrect on-the-spot misidentification in a drunken haze), he is certainly guilty of ignorance. But not racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalalba Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Lets hope you never get called up for jury service, you have a very grainy manipulated one sided footage footage of someone acting like a yob, do you believe everything you read in the Sun? Vardy needs to be told about his conduct and the clubs image and responsibilities, suppose when this is dropped you will raise the subject on Mahrez being in a Casino allegedly. Calling someone 'jap' is racist and therefor a criminal act, just like with Pearson junior. If he goes, so does Vardy. I want Vardy to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 They're both from Sheffield No they're not. Pearson is from Nottingham, he lives in Sheffield. Now, and i'm fishing here, I'll openly admit that but didn't I read somewhere Pearson put a ban on the players going to the casino? If so this would never have happened if Pearson was still here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Offense is in the eye of the offendee. So unless any Japanese members of foxestalk can clarify this once and for all, I think it's a little presumptuous to claim 'Jap' is inoffensive. Oh and some people could find "Jesus f***ing Christ" rather offensive. Stones / glass houses etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Calling someone 'jap' is racist and therefor a criminal act, just like with Pearson junior. If he goes, so does Vardy. I want Vardy to stay. Pearson jr didn't use racist language, that was hopper, and they wouldn't have been sacked for just the slit eye comment, but for the inappropriate behaviour on club business and the breach of Thai law through the production of a sex tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Calling someone 'jap' is racist and therefor a criminal act, just like with Pearson junior. If he goes, so does Vardy. I want Vardy to stay. I think the video camera and the hiring of prostitutes whilst on a club trip may have been a bigger factor in that particular sacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Regardless of the right or wrong of it all, this attitude is completely wrong. You are throwing away morals and respect because of a players ability. Seen it Suarez and Terry. Please let's not turn into one of those fan bases what will defend someone on their ability as a footballer. If Vardy is found to be guilty within the clubs investigation, then punishment will come. You're not throwing away morals and respect at all. Vardy has history of violence this is to be expected, Vardy doesn't have history of racial hatred thus I believe should be given a lesson in what not to do when not on Leicester City duty such as A) Go to a casino B) Get pissed beyond belief C) shout at randoms because you need to remember you're in the public eye. Not get sacked for it, that's politically correctness gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Jamie Vardy is a hell of a footballer but for me that doesn't mean we as Leicester City supporters should turn a blind eye to things that quite frankly aren't acceptable. He obviously fancies himself and he's been involved in a few altercations in town and he's got the previous with being on tag before. The way he is going, he's going to step up to the wrong person and get dealt with, there's always somebody bigger and badder. That's not my main concern though my main concern is people dismissing the racial insult because it's an uncommon one. I've seen plenty of times where people didn't take kindly to away fans such as Millwall calling us "a town full of pakis". So if Leicester had a high amount of Oriental Asians rather than South-Eastern Asians we would be fine with people calling us "a town full of Chinks or Japs" instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Offense is in the eye of the offendee. So unless any Japanese members of foxestalk can clarify this once and for all, I think it's a little presumptuous to claim 'Jap' is inoffensive. Oh and some people could find "Jesus f***ing Christ" rather offensive. Stones / glass houses etc. Blasphemy!!!... Stone him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Blasphemy!!!... Stone him! I prefer using rocks, stone is offensive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Acting like a fool when drunk is not a criminal offence, very edited grainy manipulated cctv footage and some random witness quotes still shows nothing conclusive other than him acting like a tool, do we know what started this incident off even. Listen to the footage without the subtitles and you cant be sure what is said sometimes people only hear what they want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImBlue Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 It's his fire that we all love isn't it? It's what makes him the footballer he is.. Needs a little guidance but don't change that about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbrothers Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Not having this - The Sun are hypocritical c*nts. This is one of their own headlines from 2006. Be sure to let this one spread like wildfire, since they're the dickheads who have brewed this storm in a teacup, since they couldn't find anything to have a go at us for on the pitch. I won't condone racism, but nor will I let a shit rag like them try to take any moral high ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalalba Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Pearson jr didn't use racist language, that was hopper, and they wouldn't have been sacked for just the slit eye comment, but for the inappropriate behaviour on club business and the breach of Thai law through the production of a sex tape. Is racism 'inappropriate' behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Is racism 'inappropriate' behavior? The racism was just another facet of it, the inappropriate behaviour was organising an orgy with prostitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 It's a racial slur, likelihood is that Vardy was ignorant of that and thought it was just short for Japanese in the same way Aussie is short for Australian. However, there's still then the issue of calling a chinese guy japanese - the implication being, well they're all the same aren't they. Or his genuinely thought he was Japanese and wasn't trying to imply anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Can't believe there are people comparing Vardy to Pearson Jr, Hopper and Smith incident. For starters this is a poor quality video dubiously obtained from a privately owned company, clearly cropped to feature just Vardy and his partner (rather than the rest of the table as one might expect a casino to cover) Second, the way the video is edited we don't see what led to the incident - I've seen a couple of people suggest that the "victim" is well known to be a nuisance in the local casinos. That may well be true, or not. The video is made to look like it is unprovoked when in all likeliness it might be anything but. Verde's behaviour certainly isn't good but if it was in response to something (that we haven't been shown) Third, the audio quality is so poor you can't actually tell what he says. He could quite easily have said a number of things: Chap Chav Jack Twat Prat The fact that the video is cropped so that we don't see who he's talking means that we don't know the ethnicity of the other person, could very well mean it could have been any of those things. Also very important to note that The Sun have handily given us subtitles that fit their hypocritical agenda so that we hear what they want us to hear. Fourth, and this one is crucial when being compared to the Thailand incident, at no point does the person Vardy is allegedly racially abusing have Vardy's cock in his mouth. There is no way that Vardy could or should get sacked for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Or his genuinely thought he was Japanese and wasn't trying to imply anything. This would be my assumption - I bet he didn't think twice about calling the lad Jap either.. not in a derogatory way, in a lad **** off you willy puller way. Either way, he is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzlfox Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Jamie Vardy is a hell of a footballer but for me that doesn't mean we as Leicester City supporters should turn a blind eye to things that quite frankly aren't acceptable. He obviously fancies himself and he's been involved in a few altercations in town and he's got the previous with being on tag before. The way he is going, he's going to step up to the wrong person and get dealt with, there's always somebody bigger and badder. That's not my main concern though my main concern is people dismissing the racial insult because it's an uncommon one. I've seen plenty of times where people didn't take kindly to away fans such as Millwall calling us "a town full of pakis". So if Leicester had a high amount of Oriental Asians rather than South-Eastern Asians we would be fine with people calling us "a town full of Chinks or Japs" instead? I am not dismissing "a racial insult"; I am challenging the belief that the word Jap (if that WAS the word used) is a racially offensive term and not just a diminutive of Japanese - and I say this because there exists in British culture genuinely offensive terms for people of Japanese nationality and/or racial heritage...a person wishing to imply or infer anything derogatory about a person based on their assumed racial origins would've reached for the much more commonly used offensive words for Japanese people...not merely the diminutive word for Japanese the use of which is not, by and of itself, racist - especially (and obviously) since the 'publication' involved in this non-story has often used the same diminutive in its own tawdry headlines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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