European giants plotting revamped Champions League to stop teams like Leicester gatecrashing the party

[MPH]

Americans - no history and no soul! .

Every time I turn my computer on and get bombarded with adverts and flickering, "take notice", interruptions I don't want, I think of Americanisation and how it's all designed to intrude in the name of the great God money or the insatiable desire to advise, promote, control and direct.

They are so bad mannered and think nothing of the rudeness of continual interruption...a bit like Andrew Neil!

And we just follow like greedy sheep.

Years ago there were a few adverts at the end of each television programme. Now it's every few minutes and they often do a recap in the programme, in case you've forgotten what you watched a few minutes earlier.

Americans and football? They're a liability and would sell any aspect for a quick buck.

They have so little appreciation of the game that the first thing they'd do is widen the goals and make them taller to ensure high-scoring matches if they could get the control to do so.

It's why they like basketball so much - there's always another two points to add. Games finish 110-108 and there's no real challenge to scoring a basket. Just get the tallest bloke you can so he can virtually place the ball in the net - big deal.

They really have no appreciation of the concept of a 0-0 draw being dramatic and the merit of a great battle between defence and attack. It's all shallow to them. Fast food but with a ball.

 

 

 

Nothing like a bit of generalized racism, eh, Thracian?

[Sleepy Fox]

Americans - no history and no soul! .

Every time I turn my computer on and get bombarded with adverts and flickering, "take notice", interruptions I don't want, I think of Americanisation and how it's all designed to intrude in the name of the great God money or the insatiable desire to advise, promote, control and direct.

They are so bad mannered and think nothing of the rudeness of continual interruption...a bit like Andrew Neil!

And we just follow like greedy sheep.

Years ago there were a few adverts at the end of each television programme. Now it's every few minutes and they often do a recap in the programme, in case you've forgotten what you watched a few minutes earlier.

Americans and football? They're a liability and would sell any aspect for a quick buck.

They have so little appreciation of the game that the first thing they'd do is widen the goals and make them taller to ensure high-scoring matches if they could get the control to do so.

It's why they like basketball so much - there's always another two points to add. Games finish 110-108 and there's no real challenge to scoring a basket. Just get the tallest bloke you can so he can virtually place the ball in the net - big deal.

They really have no appreciation of the concept of a 0-0 draw being dramatic and the merit of a great battle between defence and attack. It's all shallow to them. Fast food but with a ball.

 

Stereotype much?

[Master Fox]

He's actually 100% correct in what he's saying. Kind of understated to be fair. It's a lot worse in reality.  

[bovril]

I'm so pleased Stillitano has come out and said this, because it reminds me why I support Leicester. If we ever join such a league I'll buy a King's Lynn season ticket. Americans are lovely people but keep them the **** away from running European association football.

 

Hope to God we do it this season. Not for the trophy, or the Champagne moments, or the MOTD montage, or the spike in replica shirt sales, or the chance to see our plucky minnows be put in our place by Barcelon, or the fact we could attract better players. I don't need any of those things to support Leicester. I hope we do it for the sporting immortality it would grant us. Something that Stillitano and his ilk would never understand.

[Harry - LCFC]

Nothing like a bit of generalized racism, eh, Thracian?

 

That's a cultural generalisation. Not racism.

[ScouseFox]

Fair point I suppose, but we'll never know what the audience for that other game might have been. I get the impression most are turned off by all-Prem ties, but TV companies make the assumption of "well, if nobody's interested in watching this then we're sure to get a lower viewing figure for that tie so we might as well stick with this."

 

football's a worldwide game now, people in malaysia aren't staying up through the night to watch blyth spartans. 

 

i know you (and others) still think football's a romantic game etc and everyone wants to see a fairytale happen and all that jazz, but the people with the money really, really, really don't. 

[Hollism]

football's a worldwide game now, people in malaysia aren't staying up through the night to watch blyth spartans. 

 

i know you (and others) still think football's a romantic game etc and everyone wants to see a fairytale happen and all that jazz, but the people with the money really, really, really don't. 

 

People in Malaysia aren't watching BBC though. The game that is broadcast on British TV, does not have to be the same one broadcast 20,000 miles away.

[ian_marshall]

I'm intrigued as to what qualifies teams to call themselves the 'Big 5'. Rewind 20 years and no one in Europe would have given a flying monkey's about having Man City and Chelsea in a Europa Super League. The whole thing smacks of hypocrisy. What would they do if Everton's new owner decided to move from Goodison and build a 100,000 seater stadium, buy Messi, Ronaldo, Pogba, etc. would this group suddenly become the 'Big 6', would they ditch one of the so called 'Big 5', or would they simply ignore them and pretend that no other club exists outside of their clique?

[purpleronnie]

People in Malaysia aren't watching BBC though. The game that is broadcast on British TV, does not have to be the same one broadcast 20,000 miles away.

Exactly.

[Ozwin]

The world would collectively tell them to fvck off right? Right?

[Carl the Llama]

The world would collectively tell them to fvck off right? Right?

Pretty much already have.

[Frankiee44]

As a Chelsea supporter, i'd be utterly disgusted if this became reality. Having snooped around United and Chelsea forums, they'd all be equally as disgusted as you are. 

[fuchsntf]

Americans - no history and no soul! .Every time I turn my computer on and get bombarded with adverts and flickering, "take notice", interruptions I don't want, I think of Americanisation and how it's all designed to intrude in the name of the great God money or the insatiable desire to advise, promote, control and direct.They are so bad mannered and think nothing of the rudeness of continual interruption...a bit like Andrew Neil!And we just follow like greedy sheep.Years ago there were a few adverts at the end of each television programme. Now it's every few minutes and they often do a recap in the programme, in case you've forgotten what you watched a few minutes earlier.Americans and football? They're a liability and would sell any aspect for a quick buck.They have so little appreciation of the game that the first thing they'd do is widen the goals and make them taller to ensure high-scoring matches if they could get the control to do so.It's why they like basketball so much - there's always another two points to add. Games finish 110-108 and there's no real challenge to scoring a basket. Just get the tallest bloke you can so he can virtually place the ball in the net - big deal.They really have no appreciation of the concept of a 0-0 draw being dramatic and the merit of a great battle between defence and attack. It's all shallow to them. Fast food but with a ball.

  

Stereotypes are a real time saver!

  

Nothing like a bit of generalized racism, eh, Thracian?

  

Stereotype much?

It seems to worry you lot more, protecting adopted country, than actually understanding,

Thracians major point.

Hes against people cheating their way to honours not earnt, you denyers seem to want

to follow the Trump path, of keeping truths, and secrets of the minority away from the headlines,

by bringing unwarranted and irrelevant contra discussions, to hide the real QUESTION N DEBATE.

Let me add something else, such a group who brings such unsporting ethic to the table...

are surely capable of getting their thoughts to the reffs organisations, including the individual.

These people have now dirt on them that will now stick.

Blackballing should start immediately, and I will support Thracian to pull the 1st one out.

Both he and I cross swords sometimes, but this one we both fight for gallantry and right to be

knights , of King Richard wipping and stirring up against colonial unwanted cheap cheating methods.

[americanfox]

      

It seems to worry you lot more, protecting adopted country, than actually understanding,

Thracians major point.

Hes against people cheating their way to honours not earnt, you denyers seem to want

to follow the Trump path, of keeping truths, and secrets of the minority away from the headlines,

by bringing unwarranted and irrelevant contra discussions, to hide the real QUESTION N DEBATE.

 

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It seems to worry us lot more, that you can never seem, put together coherent words together in post

[Guest]

As a Chelsea supporter, i'd be utterly disgusted if this became reality. Having snooped around United and Chelsea forums, they'd all be equally as disgusted as you are. 

I think the mistake all of us are making is we forget that a lot of football fans aren't actually football fans. They're 'entertainment consumers' or some such thing.

 

Not to pick on Americans, but the Super Bowl is a good example of what football is creeping towards and where the likes of Stillitano want to take it. A bloated soap-opera of scripted intrigue. Where the sport acts merely as the brand and host of a much larger entertainment carnival. Half watch for the sport, the other half watch for the miscellaneous side-shows. And I wouldn't be surprised if the latter group spends more money, and subsequently has the greater influence going forward.

 

The moneymen will work out the maximum financial benefit gained by abusing the loyalty of real football fans, while pandering to the vanity of glory hunters.

[americanfox]

I think the mistake all of us are making is we forget that a lot of football fans aren't actually football fans. They're 'entertainment consumers' or some such thing.

 

Not to pick on Americans, but the Super Bowl is a good example of what football is creeping towards and where the likes of Stillitano want to take it. A bloated soap-opera of scripted intrigue. Where the sport acts merely as the brand and host of a much larger entertainment carnival. Half watch for the sport, the other half watch for the miscellaneous side-shows. And I wouldn't be surprised if the latter group spends more money, and subsequently has the greater influence going forward.

 

The moneymen will work out the maximum financial benefit gained by abusing the loyalty of real football fans, while pandering to the vanity of glory hunters.

 

The ironic thing is that if you were to ask most Americans what our favourite sporting event is, it's "March Madness", which is where unis' basketball teams (64 of them, knockout tournament mixing "big teams" and small teams who secure their conference championship) compete in a knockout tournament over a few weeks.

[fuchsntf]

It seems to worry us lot more, that you can never seem, put together coherent words together in post

I am under no obligation, I follow my dreams..

[Guest]

The ironic thing is that if you were to ask most Americans what our favourite sporting event is, it's "March Madness", which is where unis' basketball teams (64 of them, knockout tournament mixing "big teams" and small teams who secure their conference championship) compete in a knockout tournament over a few weeks.

I think that might be true if you asked most American sports fans but not the general population. A few basket ball guys at work will talk about March Madness, but literally everyone will take vacation time for the Super Bowl, even people who hate football. come to think of it even I have,

[americanfox]

I think that might be true if you asked most American sports fans but not the general population. A few basket ball guys at work will talk about March Madness, but literally everyone will take vacation time for the Super Bowl, even people who hate football. come to think of it even I have,

 

Good point. None of my coworkers care about March Madness (when I bring my laptop have have 3 screens going on at once), but they all talked about the Super Bowl (which I haven't watched for five straight years, proudly).

[FireFox]

The ironic thing is that if you were to ask most Americans what our favourite sporting event is, it's "March Madness", which is where unis' basketball teams (64 of them, knockout tournament mixing "big teams" and small teams who secure their conference championship) compete in a knockout tournament over a few weeks.

Never really thought about this, but so true! Maybe more so for the younger generation though. When I was in high-school, there are TVs in the halls and lunch room (that usually just display school announcements or whatever), and during March Madness they all were tuned into the TV coverage of it.

I think that might be true if you asked most American sports fans but not the general population. A few basket ball guys at work will talk about March Madness, but literally everyone will take vacation time for the Super Bowl, even people who hate football. come to think of it even I have,

The Super Bowl is not truly "a sporting event" though. It's about entertainment, but mostly not sport entertainment. It's about getting together with friends and family, about the half-time show, about the damn commercials.

[yorkie1999]

Its the american dream. Everyones a winner. This guy doesnt understand anything about football. His statements about utd being more integral to football than leicester show this. Without losers there are no winners, thats why americas full of rapists, murderers and druggies. They are the losers and outcasts that their society sweeps under the carpet.

[yorkie1999]

Never really thought about this, but so true! Maybe more so for the younger generation though. When I was in high-school, there are TVs in the halls and lunch room (that usually just display school announcements or whatever), and during March Madness they all were tuned into the TV coverage of it.

The Super Bowl is not truly "a sporting event" though. It's about entertainment, but mostly not sport entertainment. It's about getting together with friends and family, about the half-time show, about the damn commercials.

As demonstrated by chumly off pawn stars who wanted the day off to watch it simply for the adverts.

[Guest]

 

The Super Bowl is not truly "a sporting event" though. It's about entertainment, but mostly not sport entertainment. It's about getting together with friends and family, about the half-time show, about the damn commercials.

Which was my point exactly. We talk about a walled euro-super league never happening coz football fans don't want it. But football fans are a shrinking share of the market so decisions for the future of the sport will be made differently than we would like. 

 

If football became more like the Super Bowl,  I doubt Stillitano would see it as the death of a sport, but more as the birth of a new market. And then shamelessly promote it as progress.

[HighPeakFox]

This is what happens when you promote a culture where profiteers can take over and force their will. It is happening everywhere as assets are flogged off to appease the greedy, not just in football.

[Super_horns]

Its funny because 5-7 years ago Man City would have not been invited and 15 years ago nor would Chelsea.

Now they are seen as the power houses of European football...amazing what having a billionaire can do to the profile of a club.