Foxy_jim Posted 15 May 2016 Share Posted 15 May 2016 Let's face it in simple English, there are 100s of guys better than deeney out there. There may be people who before the season said that about all our players, but it's attitude, belief, desire, character as well as ability which makes Leicester so special. From that perspective Deeneys a guy who would shine here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 15 May 2016 Share Posted 15 May 2016 I can't see what Deeney would bring to the party. He is like Ulloa, can chip in with the occasional goal. We need a good midfielder who is a free kick specialist and can get us 15 to 20 goals a season in the vein of a Gerrard or Lampard type of central midfield play role. A five goal a season front man will kill us off. Name the 15 to 20 goal a year midfielders that are available right now. The Beckhams & Lampards are few & far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborofox Posted 15 May 2016 Share Posted 15 May 2016 Always rated Deeney. But unsure if he is a quality much better than at Watford. Wouldn't pay more than 12/15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC_Oak Posted 16 May 2016 Share Posted 16 May 2016 Hardly fair when Okazaki doesn't take penalties. Only about half are from open play. Even so, Shinji is commended for his input off the ball, but Deeney makes as many interceptions and tackles. He also has 7 assists. I'm not buying or selling, like I said Shinji has been excellent, but people saying Deeney isn't our sort of player or wouldn't suit our style are incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 17 May 2016 Share Posted 17 May 2016 Deeney is the real thing, very good in the air, solid defensively & tons of grit. He would fit in well with Leicester but I really can't see Watford letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallySinnamon Posted 17 May 2016 Share Posted 17 May 2016 I was sceptical when we were looking at Deeney at the beginning of last season and in the end we signed up with Leo. (thank god McGoldrick didn't come in the end) Watching him this season he's been so impressive. If we're looking at stats; yes he's got 12 goals and 6 of them penalties... more important for me was his partnership and link up play with Igahlo. Igahlo profited from 7 Deeney assists - mostly before OI went through his barren spell. I've seen Igahlo have some shockers in 2016 particularly when they lost 1-0 to United at OT, Igahlo should have scored two/assisted - He's the perfect upgrade/alternative to play second striker for Shinji. I think their work rate is very similar, but crucially he's heavy set and a classy link man. Hopefully we can turn his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 17 May 2016 Share Posted 17 May 2016 Let me just ask one thing for those of you doubting Troy Deeney... Do you think Watford would have stayed up so comfortably this season if Ulloa or Okazaki were the regular partner to Ighalo? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizerud Posted 18 May 2016 Share Posted 18 May 2016 Think Deeney would be a great fit. He's a better Ulloa. And he's a leader. Not for more than 15m tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 18 May 2016 Share Posted 18 May 2016 My problem with Deeney isn't him, it's his price tag. He's an English player playing in the premier league for a team that don't want to sell him and are getting a massive cash injection this year. On top of that, he's a good professional that likes his club and isn't likely to kick up a fuss to be released. All in all, avoid. We can get better value for money elsewhere. Milik is being touted as the next Lewa, is only 22 and gives us something we don't have and we'd probably still manage to get him cheaper than Deeney. Lucas' release clause is less than we'd get Deeney for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinneyHillRanger Posted 20 May 2016 Share Posted 20 May 2016 Deeney can be got for £12-15m... Watford could sell if deeney asked them nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 20 May 2016 Share Posted 20 May 2016 Let me just ask one thing for those of you doubting Troy Deeney... Do you think Watford would have stayed up so comfortably this season if Ulloa or Okazaki were the regular partner to Ighalo? I don't. Not sure what you base that on. Ulloa is vastly under-rated and would comfortably match the goals/assists rate of Deeney in a full season of active service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Ulloa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Deeney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 20 May 2016 Share Posted 20 May 2016 Not sure what you base that on. Ulloa is vastly under-rated and would comfortably match the goals/assists rate of Deeney in a full season of active service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Ulloa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Deeney They play totally different roles, stop bloody comparing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 21 May 2016 Share Posted 21 May 2016 They play totally different roles, stop bloody comparing them. Goals/assists aren't recorded according to to style or role. And of the three strikers mentioned (I don't see Shinji as a striker) I'd have Ulloa first, Deeney next and wouldn't bother with Ighalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 21 May 2016 Share Posted 21 May 2016 Goals/assists aren't recorded according to to style or role. And of the three strikers mentioned (I don't see Shinji as a striker) I'd have Ulloa first, Deeney next and wouldn't bother with Ighalo. But they are influenced by how and where you play, if you play as the main man up top you'd be expected to score more than someone playing the 10 role expected to charge all over the field. So, Ulloa is not and never will be a 10 support striker who can get about the field closing people down... he's too slow and lumbering to do so. They would play different roles, so your constant comparison is just pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylster Posted 21 May 2016 Share Posted 21 May 2016 I don't see Deeney leaving Watford anytime soon tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueBrett Posted 21 May 2016 Share Posted 21 May 2016 There are clearly more exciting options but if some of the more ambitious approaches fail I'd love us to sign Deeney. Don't think we need Bolasie when we've got Shlupp and Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 23 May 2016 Share Posted 23 May 2016 But they are influenced by how and where you play, if you play as the main man up top you'd be expected to score more than someone playing the 10 role expected to charge all over the field. So, Ulloa is not and never will be a 10 support striker who can get about the field closing people down... he's too slow and lumbering to do so. They would play different roles, so your constant comparison is just pointless. Ulloa's contribution when we lose the ball is another thing that's under-rated and your entire argument is cloudy at best. There have been lots of lethal support strikers who've worked hard in different ways - and still been successful - so there's more than one way to win titles. Besides who knows whether anyone would be signed as a replacement or a squad-strengthening addition? Take Deeney's penalties away and I don't see him as the greatest support striker - just a decent squad man with a willingness to close people down when he can. But, game for game and minute by minute I'd back Ulloa to score at the greater pace from the same opportunity and also to create as much for others. No-one pretends he's a greyhound or someone with the subtlety of Teddy Sheringham. But he works hard enough and effectively enough, both in defence and attack, albeit differently from Shinji but then Shinji's not much use at all in dealing with defensive crosses as has been noticed on occasions that most seem to overlook. Ulloa's biggest problem this season's been not having the game time because Shinji's input, for all that he's not a genuine Premiership striker from anything I've seen, is considered more important in the game plan and why not if it worked? That doesn't mean we'd take the same approach next season. A good coach will play according to the strengths and weaknesses of the team or squad he's got. At this moment I'd doubt Shinji would feature much but remembering the change in Vardy who knows? The guy might confound everyone and become a genuine support striker. Then again Ulloa might become more prolific if he's still here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Ulloa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Deeney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 23 May 2016 Share Posted 23 May 2016 I would like us to get another goalscoring and assist threat so we don't over rely on Mahrez and Vardy. Whether that be a player who plays wide left and we play a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 system or a No 10 in the system we play now, this is the player who should be our marquee signing this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 23 May 2016 Share Posted 23 May 2016 Talking personally, I'd keep Ulloa even if Deeney signs. Both good strikers, no doubt about it. Leo didn't start that many games last season and scored 6 league goals, which in context is pretty decent. As similar to Deeney, Ulloa's penalties are very good, and he's proved this season he has the calmness to net in front of goal, especially in penalty situations. His calmness to convert pens and in general him netting goals over the course of the season, has been key for us and he does score some very important goals. Leo has that instinctiveness of a striker, because he does get himself in the right positions in the box. He does a lot of work for the team. He tracks back fairly consistently, is useful aerially at both attacking/defending corners and also brings others into the game with his hold up play. His touch towards the end of last season was excellent, and seemed to be in some great form when he came into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loggy88 Posted 25 May 2016 Share Posted 25 May 2016 Not sure Deeney is good enough. We have to remember we are in the champions league and would he cut the mustard at that level? I don't think so whereas our best players right now i think can perform at that level. And we certainly don't need a decent player in a average team like Bolacie, we don't need a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 25 May 2016 Share Posted 25 May 2016 Not sure Deeney is good enough. We have to remember we are in the champions league and would he cut the mustard at that level? I don't think so whereas our best players right now i think can perform at that level. And we certainly don't need a decent player in a average team like Bolacie, we don't need a winger. You do realise we just won the league with Wes Morgan, Danny Simpson and Marc Albrighton, right? Would have though we all would have abandoned those sort of arguments months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 25 May 2016 Share Posted 25 May 2016 Deeney is better than okazaki but i would be underwhelmed if we signed Deeney. Well im confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Babylon Posted 26 May 2016 Share Posted 26 May 2016 But, game for game and minute by minute I'd back Ulloa to score at the greater pace from the same opportunity and also to create as much for others. Based on what... Even in the championship where Ulloa was playing as the main striker he contributed nothing close to what Deeney did at the same time. Even in the premier league, Ulloa got 13 in all comps playing as the main man upfront, Deeney got 15 as the support man. There is almost nothing to suggest Ulloa is more of a threat than Deeney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 26 May 2016 Share Posted 26 May 2016 Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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