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Oxlade Chamberlain

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Good player and is young enough to improve with coaching. Definite yes. Some people have delusions of grandeur turning their noses up at players like this, its not long ago we were trying to sign the likes of Shaun Maloney.

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Still young enough to really come on if Arsenal's physios and training haven't completely written him off. If he's still got that serious acceleration he had when he burst onto the England scene I'd definitely have a proper look.

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Over the past 2 seasons in the Premier League he's managed 2 goals and 2 assists. No where near good enough for us.

I just love it when people pull random stats and then don't put it into context.

 

Fact: In his five Premier League seasons, Oxlade-Chamberlain has played 100 matches. In at least 50% of those matches, he's featured for 20 minutes or less on the pitch.

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How did Albrighton do for the Villa the season before he joined?

Over the past 2 seasons in the Premier League he's managed 2 goals and 2 assists. No where near good enough for us.

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I just love it when people pull random stats and then don't put it into context.

 

Fact: In his five Premier League seasons, Oxlade-Chamberlain has played 100 matches. In at least 50% of those matches, he's featured for 20 minutes or less on the pitch.

In the time spell i mentioned he has played over 2000 minutes of football, and he's only managed 2 goals and 2 assists, that is poor.

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How did Albrighton do for the Villa the season before he joined?

 

4 assists in just under 1000 minutes of football, not bad for a poor side like Villa who score far less than Arsenal.

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what does he actually offer? he's quick but what else? besides that england goal i can't remember anything he's ever done apart from get injured

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Is this what lcfc has become - the ox is a cracking player and if his stats are average over the last couple of seasons it's because arsenal have a number of players in that position - with all due respect he's technically much better than schlupp and albrighton - I think fans need to compartmentalise the difference between a group of players coming together and raising their game to achieve something truly special and individual talent

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In the time spell i mentioned he has played over 2000 minutes of football, and he's only managed 2 goals and 2 assists, that is poor.

 

You can't just look at the numbers - you ought to also then go ahead and explain what Oxlade-Chamberlain's position on the pitch is for Arsenal (a winger), what his role is for the team (providing depth (stretching the field) and service to Giroud), that Arsenal rely on others to do the scoring (Oxlade-Chamberlain being a substitute most of the time), that the 2'000 minutes you mention cannot be regarded as an entity (he didn't play 2'000 minutes straight if you catch my drift) and that he's also been out injured a couple of times in the past five years, making it harder to come back onto the pitch and regain the previous form and/or getting straight back into scoring.

 

As a winger, Danny Welbeck has two goals and four assists in 32 games. Does that make him a poor player, too?

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Arsenal have ruined him like they do most players, we have the technology, we can rebuild him.

OX V2.0. Our engineering department will finally have something to do. They should give him some of those wolverine claws.

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You can't just look at the numbers - you ought to also then go ahead and explain what Oxlade-Chamberlain's position on the pitch is for Arsenal (a winger), what his role is for the team (providing depth (stretching the field) and service to Giroud), that Arsenal rely on others to do the scoring (Oxlade-Chamberlain being a substitute most of the time), that the 2'000 minutes you mention cannot be regarded as an entity (he didn't play 2'000 minutes straight if you catch my drift) and that he's also been out injured a couple of times in the past five years, making it harder to come back onto the pitch and regain the previous form and/or getting straight back into scoring.

 

As a winger, Danny Welbeck has two goals and four assists in 32 games. Does that make him a poor player, too?

I see what you're saying don't get me wrong, but comparing him to Welbeck as a winger is pointless, as it's not his main position although I would still say he is poor on the wing. Look at Joel Campbell, who's played the same position and played slightly less than the Ox this year. He's still managed 3 goals and 3 assists

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The only way we are discussing ox and Theo is on the basis that Riyad is going there. I would rather keep Riyad.

(And I would be astonished if either ox or Theo would agree to come to Leicester)

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If we gave this guy a defined role (like the Mahrez one) that meant he could work on it week in / week out, the guy has the ability to make a success of it.

The difficulty he has had at Arsenal is because he's not first 11 he's ended up filling various of roles across the front for short periods and for a young player that can be difficult to get into a full rythum.

The injuries of course don't help either... but as a young player who's got talent but has lost his way a little, this is the sort of gamble that is well worth taking for a club in our position.

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Ox is too flaky and is injured to easily. I'd rather keep Albrighton who works really hard and can cross the ball.

I think Wenger ruins players, Ozil, Sanchez etc.

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All Arsenal players are over-rated.  Arsenal fans believe their own hype.  The team achieves what they deserve and it is perceived to be failure.  If the players were as good as they are made out to be, they would walk the league every year.  The Ox is one of those who are over-rated.

 

Sanchez and Cech are world class, Belerin is quality too.  The rest are not as good as their hype apart from Walcott and Giroud who are both oddly under-rated by their own fans.

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All Arsenal players are over-rated.  Arsenal fans believe their own hype.  The team achieves what they deserve and it is perceived to be failure.  If the players were as good as they are made out to be, they would walk the league every year.  The Ox is one of those who are over-rated.

 

Sanchez and Cech are world class, Belerin is quality too.  The rest are not as good as their hype apart from Walcott and Giroud who are both oddly under-rated by their own fans.

 

Can we differentiate here? Arsenal have quality players, the reason why they are oftentimes seen as "failures" is because they haven't won the domestic title for twelve years now. Arsenal can boast loads of quality individuals, but they usually don't click as well as our team this season did, for instance.

 

You can't buy squad togetherness/cohesion or team spirit, for that matter. It has to be develop organically.

 

I wouldn't call Arsenal players "over-rated", more like underperforming.

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Would definitely take him so our skillful coaching and sports science team can un-wenger him.

Still young and has champions league experience.

Like with Walcott I can't see arsenal selling to a rival.

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Is this what lcfc has become - the ox is a cracking player and if his stats are average over the last couple of seasons it's because arsenal have a number of players in that position - with all due respect he's technically much better than schlupp and albrighton - I think fans need to compartmentalise the difference between a group of players coming together and raising their game to achieve something truly special and individual talent

Chamberlain has a lot of qualities but he certainly isn't 'technically' better than Albrighton who's touch, vision and crossing ability is absolutely second to none.

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