stripeyfox Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Reporting "at least 80 dead" now, including a number of children. Horrendous. Makes you sick and scared in equal measure
MC Prussian Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Latest reports indicated at 80 dead, 50 injured. I've seen the video of the attacker - he accelerated even as he was approaching the festivity scene. The aftermath scenery is eerie and heartbreaking, with so many dead bodes plastering the Promenade des Anglais. Despicable. Heinous. Of course, it was meant to be a symbolic act. Hit the French on their national holiday, the holiest of them all.
EastAnglianFox Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Usually have quite a strong stomach when it comes to seeing these awful awful images / videos but seeing that truck accelerate as it goes into the crowd has made me feel genuinely ill.
lgfualol Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Makes you sick. I watched the aftermath video and nearly threw up. This world is and has always been pretty ****ed up. There is too much hate. Sad.
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Never, it's here now with us and not going away. Sounds absolutely tragic, this things are always worse when you have been there as well, it's beautfil around the Promenade des Anglais. This.... It won't end
goose2010 Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 The biggest worry is that this could literally happen anywhere with little or no planning that could be stopped. It's a messed up world we live in and I really can not see how this could of been prevented.
Fox92 Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Horrific. So simple isn't it though. A lorry through a load of people, you can't even stop that it's so out of the blue.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 The biggest worry is that this could literally happen anywhere with little or no planning that could be stopped. It's a messed up world we live in and I really can not see how this could of been prevented. It could but at an organised event over here in GB it'd be very unlikely. French police are slack. How would a lorry be able to get to the point where it can cause damage without it raising suspicion? The area looked pedeatrianised for the evening
m4DD0gg Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Disgusting and tragic at the same time but like has been said so many times the French are such an easy target due to the lack of organised security. God only knows how the euros were not hit but at the same time after all the extensive security checks time and again we saw flares, smoke bombs and even a flare gun which is basically a replica fire arm!
ramboacdc Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 this broke as i fell sleep last night and now ive only just saw the videos of people on the floor with blood everywhere. jesus what C**TS
MrSpaM Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Makes you glad we have things in place here to stop random trucks just driving into the city centre like this Edit : Having looked at the route the truck took, there wasn't really any way of stopping it. It was pretty much on a main road. Wonder why police were even letting traffic anywhere near there.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Just looking in to the reasons why France seems to get so many attacks. Lots on the web, I think a lot is down to being accessible and easy. High levels of youth unemployment. Large number of French troops stationed abroad who have been involved in military actions within Muslim countries such as Mali. Porous borders. Perceived failure to absorb people of different cultural & ethnic backgrounds. Strong resistance to religious incursions into the French political sphere. High levels of tourism. Troubled colonial past .......not suggesting there should be any reason, just comments that I found
Captain... Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Absolutely horrific, just sickening and cowardly. The biggest worry is that this could literally happen anywhere with little or no planning that could be stopped. It's a messed up world we live in and I really can not see how this could of been prevented. It is a worry but it is also worth bearing in mind how easy it would be to carry out an attack like this every day, there are crowds of people everywhere, yet these attacks are not happening every day, as you said it takes no planning and is almost impossible to prevent. The only reason they are not a daily occurrence is that there are not that many people out there fvcked up enough to think this is an acceptable thing to do. I don't know if you can take any comfort from that thought, but it's what I tell myself every time something like this happens and I'm reading about it on a packed out train.
RowlattsFox Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 I can't understand how ****ed up your head must be to drive a truck into hundreds of people. Tragic how quickly this must have happened for those now dead. Most worrying thing for me is that terrorists don't need instructions from a leader, this looks to me like someone who has organised his own attack and organisations like ISIS will claim responsibility. Could happen anywhere anytime.
bovril Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 I can't understand how ****ed up your head must be to drive a truck into hundreds of people. Including so many children.
Alf Bentley Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Massively depressing. Yet again it sounds as if the perpetrator wasn't some religious extremist imported by ISIS. Police have apparently identified the bloke as a local French-Tunisian (aged 31, so no youth). He had no known terrorist links previously, but had been involved in petty crime like theft and minor violence. The authorities in every country need to seriously, seriously work out why so many people with that sort of background get drawn into extremist attacks. I mean, zealots who become active terrorists, the logic is obvious....but so many local wasters?!?
Webbo Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Massively depressing. Yet again it sounds as if the perpetrator wasn't some religious extremist imported by ISIS. Police have apparently identified the bloke as a local French-Tunisian (aged 31, so no youth). He had no known terrorist links previously, but had been involved in petty crime like theft and minor violence. The authorities in every country need to seriously, seriously work out why so many people with that sort of background get drawn into extremist attacks. I mean, zealots who become active terrorists, the logic is obvious....but so many local wasters?!? I believe the Paris shooters had a similar background.
Voll Blau Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Absolutely sickening seeing France targeted again and again like this. Was there this this time last month, love the country and its people.
bovril Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 Massively depressing. Yet again it sounds as if the perpetrator wasn't some religious extremist imported by ISIS. Police have apparently identified the bloke as a local French-Tunisian (aged 31, so no youth). He had no known terrorist links previously, but had been involved in petty crime like theft and minor violence. The authorities in every country need to seriously, seriously work out why so many people with that sort of background get drawn into extremist attacks. I mean, zealots who become active terrorists, the logic is obvious....but so many local wasters?!? Angry young men with nothing to lose. Plenty of them littered throughout history.
MrSpaM Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 When you have no purpose in life you are easily manipulated by anybody offering you a purpose
Itsthejoeker Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 This is going past the point of frightening me to just making me extremely angry.
Webbo Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 This is going past the point of frightening me to just making me extremely angry. There's no point being either, Best thing you can do is to not change anything.That's what they want.
Guest MattP Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 The biggest worry is that this could literally happen anywhere with little or no planning that could be stopped. It's a messed up world we live in and I really can not see how this could of been prevented. I was thinking the same, how long would it take us to scramble armed police as well to a village fete or a local music festival? It would be a massacre. The authorities in every country need to seriously, seriously work out why so many people with that sort of background get drawn into extremist attacks. I mean, zealots who become active terrorists, the logic is obvious....but so many local wasters?!? The authorities are reeping what they have sowed, I'm surprised we've not had more given we allowed people like Abu Qatata and Abu Hamza to preach on the corners of Hyde Park for years about the need to kill infidels, of course some angry young men are going to be turned to these sort of people if they offer them something, how we allowed this to actually happen still baffles me? We throw the EDL leader in prison for a "fcuk ISIS" flag while Anjem Choudary gets to go on the Big Questions on the BBC and talk about the need for Jihad and then we wonder why people get radicalised? To say we need a different appraoch is an understatement. France have been no better, it's taken them years to deport similar sorts, lord only knows how many people they got to in that time. Where is Theresa May as well? Not heard from her yet which is quite disgraceful really.
foxy boxing Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 just awful news these people are just plain evil who want to cause as much terror and pain as possible france in particular is really getting the brunt of this at the moment but we should all be vigilante. just one maniac alone can cause a lot of casualties and terror.
Alf Bentley Posted 15 July 2016 Posted 15 July 2016 I believe the Paris shooters had a similar background. Yep. Applies to several previous attacks - even back to the 7/7 attackers over here. Angry young men with nothing to lose. Plenty of them littered throughout history. There have been plenty of angry young men in history who have killed for a cause. Being so angry that you kill as many civilians as possible (including Muslims, by all accounts) is a step beyond that. Likewise, having so little to lose that you are prepared to actively seek death in pursuing such mass murder. I think we need to work out what combination of factors is giving people this mentality - a hideous transformation of the traditional "angry young man". Otherwise, security can only do so much, if there's an endless flow of new recruits.
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