Manchester United post match 4-1

[Kinowe Soorie]

I kicked the dog, the Mrs, the baby and Wookie would have got a boot also if he had been about! Why am I even that bothered anymore? Still got hump about the Liverpool fiasco. This is typical Leicester City!?

[STUHILL]

Still can't believe we lost 4-1 to a very average Man U performance. The game was there for the taking too, as we looked on top and dangerous before they scored. There really is no excuse for that kind of defending, but we have looked dodgy from corners for a while now. Too many players had subdued performances today, Mahrez, Albrighton, Vardy, Amartey etc.. all lacking. We didn't seem to be playing at full tempo and I have no idea why. It's Old Trafford! If you can't get pumped for that, then you won't for anything else. 

 

I think we have tried to stick with the 442 and we can now see it is failing, especially away from home, so I would like to see us go to 5 in midfield or at least bring Okazaki back, to drop deep and link the play. That does mean that Slimani or Vardy will have to drop out though, which is far from ideal. I think we should look at 3-5-2 away from home, with Fuchs and Albrighton playing as wingbacks, It would certainly make us harder to break down and we are always a threat with Vardy and Slimani as a front two. 

[simon matts]

Why so negative. I agree it was not a great display but we have witnessed the unbelievable last season and I remember the poor times over many years. Still a happy foxes fan and still believe we will improve again. Stop the negative moans and be happy with what we have at present. 

[ZeGuy]

6 minutes ago, Gerbold said:

Has everyone suddenly forgotten that the pivotal member of the defence-midfield got sold to Chelsea not so long ago?

It's plain to see that they're still trying to adjust to his absence - a Kante-shaped hole in the middle which Liverpool and the Scum have been able to exploit to overwhelm us. It's not about trying - it's about knowing how to try or, more accurately, finding a way to adapt for his loss. Funnily Chelsea got the kind of stuffing today which Leicester didn't experience last season. So maybe N'Golo is having a job adjusting too - maybe.

Try taking a key part out of any well-oiled machine and see how it works. It seems that hasty blame is being heaped on players for not doing their job or not trying only a few games into the season when the problem is rebuilding that pressing and counter attacking.

We played well in the first 15mins - we had chances but after United scored I think their confidence wavered - it just wasn't like last season when all was functioning like clockwork. This is the price we've paid for success - I'm trusting that Claudio can find a route through this difficulty - using the resources he has to hand.

I thought that Claudio put his best side out - correct formation or not. But it was his best side of last season (excepting Slimani). The decisions to bringing off Vardy and Mahrez were brave and necessary. Gray/King proved to be the right decision or a good decision - the red tide was stemmed and a goal scored.

The worst for me is that it was United who again dealt another drubbing. The media will be overjoyed that things are getting back to normal, that is, the 'natural order' is back.

That's one of the best comments I've read in this thread.

[jayfox26]

I can accept losing away to Man U and Liverpool but not in the manner we did. It almost feels as though the players aren't interested in league games when we have a champs league game straight after. We were so bad defensively today. We can't keep conceding from set pieces as teams will just hammer this and we will struggle to win games. When we have 2 massive centre backs plus slimani and Amartey we should not be conceding so many goals from set plays. And Claudio needs to realise 4-4-2 will not work against the top teams. I still don't think United are that good and they have been gifted victory today!

[Clever Fox]

There are many reasons for today's poor showing but one was that the front 3 where hopeless today and maybe it could have been foreseen by CR. with an eye to Tuesdays Champions league match. The Ball never stuck up top and in hindsight Shinji would have at least hustled Utd as he does so well. And Ulloa would have protected the Ball better. And maybe with Gray on the wing. At least they would have tried instead of what we got from Vardy Slimani and Mahrez today. It probably wouldn't have changed the result but maybe the margin might have been tighter.  

[NeilLCFC]

this season the players just don't look like they care. All of our success in recent years was built on a never give up kinda attitude, think back to 5-3 against Utd. CR saying he'd given up at half time, goes against everything we were as a team.

 

I've been saying for a while, the more CR changes things away from the NP days, the more things seem to be going wrong. Whilst most on here are happier with a manager that is good at holding press conferences, I will again state that I strongly believe NP had more to do with last season than CR did. 

[BlueSi13]

2 hours ago, Notsomuchthesedays said:

I understand that this is a forum for people to share opinions about today's game and other topics but I have to admit that I find some of the comments very worrying and hopefully not reflective of the general City supporter (like myself). This group of players have lots of credit in the bank, they have spent the past 18 months achieving well beyond what could reasonably have been expected from them, they will be targeted this year and turned over at times but their character is unquestionable and they will bounce back, they are not a group of players who have ever let us down to date. They deserve nothing but our support at this stage (the whole team... Nobody excluded) and I sincerely hope they get it regardless of a few poor results. Hopefully when people see Morgan walk out Tuesday and the champions league music plays people will get the the goosebumps and some perspective of what they have achieved. What a time to be a city supporter...........

I'm sorry but I'm not buying that.  I mentioned in the match thread that if I'd received the greatest performance review of all time at my place of work one year but completely underperform the next, I would get absolutely massacred and possibly let go.  No such thing as having 'credit in the bank', this is a performance business and frankly many of those at the club at the moment are not doing their jobs.

 

In the two seasons prior to this we have conceded four or more just twice.  Both occasions we didn't deserve to concede that many  However in just our last 12 matches (including pre-season) we've conceded four five times (Hull City should have scored at least four also) and we've been absolutely humbled off the park.

 

God knows what the owners must be thinking right now, mega-bucks contracts and flash BMW's all round, and for what so far?  To see the club and their brand get absolutely destroyed in the global media.  Some of the stuff I've seen and read about us has been blistering.  Never heard the words 'fraud' and 'fluke' used so much that's for sure.  

 

The bleeding has to be stopped or we will be in a relegation fight come the new year.  No chance we will finish bottom three IMO but the fact many are already talking about this, not just gutted Leicester fans mind you, should absolutely shame our current staff.

 

[suffolk fox]

13 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said:

this season the players just don't look like they care. All of our success in recent years was built on a never give up kinda attitude, think back to 5-3 against Utd. CR saying he'd given up at half time, goes against everything we were as a team.

 

I've been saying for a while, the more CR changes things away from the NP days, the more things seem to be going wrong. Whilst most on here are happier with a manager that is good at holding press conferences, I will again state that I strongly believe NP had more to do with last season than CR did. 

You have seriously got to be a wind up merchant or completely deluded.  Never read so much crap in all my life.

Your messiah is doing a wonderful job at Derby I would suggest you go and support them.  

[NeilLCFC]

2 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

You have seriously got to be a wind up merchant or completely deluded.  Never read so much crap in all my life.

Your messiah is doing a wonderful job at Derby I would suggest you go and support them.  

I really do hope that it's me that look deluded and not you, come the end of the season.  

 

Really does puzzle me how so many can disregard what NP did for this club.

[Callabinho]

I do wish people would not keep getting at those moaning about the current situation....quite frankly I'm pissed off, some may hail him the messiah, but at this time Ranieri is a very naughty boy! 

 

Seriously though it's not on...it's almost like we've decided bow down to the self proclaimed footballing experts who sit on our screens saying "they won't do it again" by completely ****ing up the entire pre-season. Our recruitment has been shit, we've failed to replace a key player and in my eyes haven't sufficiently added enough quality to our depth. Yes he may have only had a handful of cameo appearances but Musa looks like the definition of all fart no shit.

 

Kaputska looks like he will be suffereing the same fate as Krama and even though we won the league last season, our defence at times looked a little rocky, well we've failed to sufficiently add to it and now it looks like to put it plain and simply...shit. 

 

Claudio has sat there smiling away winning over the hearts of the media yet he and his team have failed to build of the success of last year, our recruitment has been substandard, the pre-season a joke, we've lost key members of the club and haven't replaced them with the same quality. 

 

Are we starting to see the blithering idiot that the media promised us? And before everyone starts saying last season this and last season that, I'm talking about this season, and this season he and the lads need to buck their ****ing ideas up....pronto. 

[lgfualol]

23 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said:

this season the players just don't look like they care. All of our success in recent years was built on a never give up kinda attitude, think back to 5-3 against Utd. CR saying he'd given up at half time, goes against everything we were as a team.

 

I've been saying for a while, the more CR changes things away from the NP days, the more things seem to be going wrong. Whilst most on here are happier with a manager that is good at holding press conferences, I will again state that I strongly believe NP had more to do with last season than CR did. 

Not sure what you think CR was doing all last season if you credit NP for it more than him. Pearson doesn't have a clue tactically, and showing it by taking one of the highest scoring and best Championship squads into a relegation battle. Sacking him was a great move by the club.

[NeilLCFC]

Just now, lgfualol said:

Not sure what you think CR was doing all last season if you credit NP for it more than him. Pearson doesn't have a clue tactically, and showing it by taking one of the highest scoring and best Championship squads into a relegation battle. Sacking him was a great move by the club.

I think the best thing that CR did last season, was not to change things, and continue working on the plan NP had set. Let's not forget, during the great escape under NP, we were the best team in the country. It's not like we had been playing shite prior to CR taking over!

 

On current form, CR will have the champions of England in a relegation battle, so your point is fully irrelevant.

[fuchsntf]

15 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said:

I really do hope that it's me that look deluded and not you, come the end of the season.

We support Leicester city, we are all bloody mad and deluded..Its all part of the fun...

[suffolk fox]

Callabinho are you for real?  You cannot possibly blame a manager for a team switching off three times from a corner?  Maybe you and others can.

 

Ranieri knew the game had gone at half time so he changed it quite rightly to prevent further damage and a cricket score.  He made us more narrower, making it more difficult for United to attack us.  It worked we actually won the second half one nil.

 

We were never going to replicate what we did last season this.  Let's be honest we are a small team when it comes to the big guns of the premier league.  As it stands tonight we are eleventh in the premier league having already played, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United.

 

I like you am not overly joyed about travelling to Liverpool or Manchester United and watch my beloved team ship a total of eight goals but why blame the manager.  I am sure Ranieri in his pre match talk didn't tell the defence to switch off three times from corners and go to sleep and equally I am sure he didn't tell Vardy not to bother running for any ball and to remain static for the first 45 minutes as he did.

 

I would suggest you and others on this board go and support Man City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona if you expect us to win every week.  Last season was a one off.  It was bloody marvellous and little old Leicester won the premier leagua and are playing Champions league football.

 

I dont bloody care what you or others think who criticise Ranieri, yes he makes mistakes humans do but for what he achieved last season he is beyond criticism end of.

 

Comments like Pearsons team won the league last season, is absolute crap and yourself should realise what we achieved last season was Wonderful and Spectacular but it was a one off.

 

We will finish mid table this season and maybe make the last sixteen of the Champions league but for Leicester that is a bloody good season.

 

I will be there on Tuesday cheering the boys on in the Champions league against Porto and for that alone I am grateful to Mr Ranieri the greatest ever Leicester manager.

[suffolk fox]

14 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said:

I think the best thing that CR did last season, was not to change things, and continue working on the plan NP had set. Let's not forget, during the great escape under NP, we were the best team in the country. It's not like we had been playing shite prior to CR taking over!

 

On current form, CR will have the champions of England in a relegation battle, so your point is fully irrelevant.

You really are a wind up merchant and not a true Leicester fan.  One would suggest you get back on your Rams forum cos Derby will be in league one next season.  Still. Nigel does know how to get out of that league so you should be okay.

[Donut]

1 hour ago, NeilLCFC said:

this season the players just don't look like they care. All of our success in recent years was built on a never give up kinda attitude, think back to 5-3 against Utd. CR saying he'd given up at half time, goes against everything we were as a team.

 

I've been saying for a while, the more CR changes things away from the NP days, the more things seem to be going wrong. Whilst most on here are happier with a manager that is good at holding press conferences, I will again state that I strongly believe NP had more to do with last season than CR did. 

well youre a berk then.

[sm1]

2 hours ago, Gerbold said:

Has everyone suddenly forgotten that the pivotal member of the defence-midfield got sold to Chelsea not so long ago?

It's plain to see that they're still trying to adjust to his absence - a Kante-shaped hole in the middle which Liverpool and the Scum have been able to exploit to overwhelm us. It's not about trying - it's about knowing how to try or, more accurately, finding a way to adapt for his loss. Funnily Chelsea got the kind of stuffing today which Leicester didn't experience last season. So maybe N'Golo is having a job adjusting too - maybe.

Try taking a key part out of any well-oiled machine and see how it works. It seems that hasty blame is being heaped on players for not doing their job or not trying only a few games into the season when the problem is rebuilding that pressing and counter attacking.

We played well in the first 15mins - we had chances but after United scored I think their confidence wavered - it just wasn't like last season when all was functioning like clockwork. This is the price we've paid for success - I'm trusting that Claudio can find a route through this difficulty - using the resources he has to hand.

I thought that Claudio put his best side out - correct formation or not. But it was his best side of last season (excepting Slimani). The decisions to bringing off Vardy and Mahrez were brave and necessary. Gray/King proved to be the right decision or a good decision - the red tide was stemmed and a goal scored.

The worst for me is that it was United who again dealt another drubbing. The media will be overjoyed that things are getting back to normal, that is, the 'natural order' is back.

Kante's absence is no doubt causing problems for our defence but last season our defence and pressing started up top with Vardy, its part of his game, or was. Now he'll rarely press, giving opposition all the time to pick out a pass. Take Brugges as an example, people blame there defenders for making mistakes, but Vardy had them terrified because they had no time to think or look up. By the end of the game they were just kicking the ball to anyone.

That effort and commitment trickled down through the whole team. Now the only player still putting in that effort consistently is Drinkwater. The rest do it in fits and starts when they can be bothered. Maybe Champion's League and wanting to preform better there has something to do with it, but there is a unwillingness to run that extra yard from our players on too many occasions this season.

[elvisfmcfly]

5 minutes ago, Donut said:

well youre a berk then.

Who says berk? That's unfathomable.

[filbertway]

 

 

Member when we used to be good against good teams? I memberrr

[Grewks]

Why are those criticizing individual players, e.g. Amartey, allowed to post and not receive bans.

 

 

Yet those criticizing the manager, who is responsible for us having to play Amartey, receiving bans and having posts deleted?

[Itsthejoeker]

23 minutes ago, Grewks said:

Why are those criticizing individual players, e.g. Amartey, allowed to post and not receive bans.

 

 

Yet those criticizing the manager, who is responsible for us having to play Amartey, receiving bans and having posts deleted?

 

Because you're a fickle **** whose posted the same thing in three threads within the last 10 minutes.

 

Ranieri won us the league, won us champions league football, has made this club more successful in one year than it has ever been before. And yet convincing you is impossible. 

 

Pathetic really.

[WigstonWanderer]

OK, taken me a while to get used to losing again, but I think I'm there now. Back in the bunker!

 

Taking our PL losses:

 

Hull: Freak result, blame poor pre season, lack of fitness, complacency, etc.

 

Liverpool: Devastating display from a talented Liverpool team.

 

Man U: Devastating display from MU for 20 mins aided and abetted by astonishingly poor defending

 

Of the other games:

 

2 wins over relatively poor teams and a good draw against what is shaping up as quite a decent Arsenal team, at least for the moment (see 3-0 vs Chelsea yesterday).

 

Overall, as long as we can keep dispatching the lower half teams, it won't matter what happens against the traditional top 6, at least we won't get relegated and might get a top 8 to 10.

 

Err we won't win the league

[Crazy Kop Corner]

I don't know if mentioned elsewhere but I thought our support yesterday was good. Definitely better than Hull and Liverpool (some way behind Bruges which was epic).

 

Kept going to the end and the on 'Wednesday Night' song is a beauty.

 

Great effort with MOM after Demarai Gray being the fans.

[erlee]

rANIERI should try something new instead of sticking with more or less the same starting XI