Ranieri

[Corky]

Totally agree, Donut. The amount of people playing down last season's achievement is staggering, almost making out it was a natural progression from Pearson's time in charge.

[Donut]

1 minute ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Apart from Monaco.

Is the shittest thread ever? Not only do we have people seriously suggesting the title winning manager youd be replaced, we then have people actually agreeing with them, then we have people making up non existent facts, and then other people replying to correct them with comments that are wrong!!

 

Cagliari: Got team promoted in two consecutive seasons and won a domestic cup. Improved each year.

 

Fiorentina: Got team promoted, then finished 4th in top division, then finished 9th with a European Semi Final. team didnt regress each year.

 

Chelsea: Finished 6th, then 6th, then 3rd, then 2nd, whilst also having a run to the Champions League Semi Final. Improved every year.

 

Roma and Parma: One season jobs, avoided relegation with Parma, finished 2nd behind Mourinho's treble winners at Roma after giving Inter a 3 game head start. Teams didnt go backwards.

 

Monaco: From Ligue 2, to 2nd in Ligue 1, in two years.

 

If people want to make shit up at least put some thought into it

 

 

[desertfox2]

Look at Chelsea, playing them at their place. Midfield. They had Hazard we had Albrighton. They had Kante we had Amartey. They had Moses we had Schlupp. They bring on Chalobah we bring on Andy King. Fabregas and Willian didn't even play. 

 

We could have Brian I'm the best manager in the world Alf Ramsey but simply put we are not at their level in terms of quality. Sad but true. And this summers recruitment was poor, we really should have gone bigger while we had the chance. the best of the bunch left to the last minute which for me show's poor recruitment. We managed to get away with it last season as every player gave 100% and we had a world class player in Kante. This year world class player has left in the middle of the pitch and all the players look like they are at 80% at best.... apart from at home.

 

With all that being said. We did our selves absolutely no favours with that starting 11. For me it just says to the players, don't worry about today lads it's all about the champions league. The players aren't daft and they would have felt that was the case the minute they saw the starting line up.

 

Musa was crap today but we are not giving him a chance to find his feet or get confidence. Chelsea away is not the best fixture to try things out. Surely you play Musa at home against a poor side and hope he nicks a goal and his confidence increases. Losing at Chelsea away I can understand but what worries the hell out of me is we basically accepted we were going to lose before kick off in the prem. Momentum is so important and if we keep capitualating against the "good sides" it may start rubbing off when we play a side we should beat and then we are in trouble.

 

 

[DelBoy73]

It is not the scoreline but rather the way we are utterly outplayed and outmuscled all over the pitch like rag-dolls that bothers me.

First of all, against decent oppositions, so far we hardly even have reached the 35% possession mark, this would be a concern even for an elite counter-attacking team such as Atletico, period.

A this moment, our only "build-up play " - if you can call that - is resorting to our all-predictable hoofed long balls that never created a single chance since post May 2016.

We are so bad at bringing the ball from our box to the opposition's that we make any decent opposition look like Barcelona.

Our strikers are systematically isolated 40 yards from their midfielders teammates, and since we seem void of any ability to string three passes in a raw, these latters are constantly over-flooded, thus letting waves after waves coming knocking at our back four.  

 

Now, Ranieri should explain why he thinks he could afford the luxury to play two strikers while Chelsea ( as other teams did ) took the conservative approach of one upfront with five men in the midfield.

Did he thought that his squad was overall better or is he a thick stubborn hag  ?

 

" Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results "

A major overhaul of his tactics is needed right now, or we will start battling with relegation fodders sooner than some are expecting.

 

 

 

[Barky]

Judging by this thread I think there's nothing else to do but lose all sense of perspective and control over ourselves. I've just had a shit in the bath. It looks a bit like Pearson. Could be a sign.

[HighPeakFox]

2 pages of this nonsense was enough for me - reactionary, fickle and ungrateful. They're all having difficulties, it's obvious, and we don't really know why.

 

Support them, all of them, loudly.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Some perspective needed here. We won the PL title last season with Ranieri's contribution an undoubtedly major factor. This season the players have not been at the top of their game and similarly I think Claudio has to be judged likewise with some quite frankly odd selections and substitutions at times that certainly haven't helped. As I said n another thread, I think he is not clear in his mind how we should play tactically yet this season. No need to panic and no need to create a Ranieri out culture but he does need to address the obvious deficiencies in formation and selection.

[Guest Col city fan]

It's a good job we did as well as we did last season. He's amassed a massive amount of credit in the bank.

13 goals from 4 away matches......the credit is dwindling.

[Koke]

1 hour ago, Donut said:

Is the shittest thread ever? Not only do we have people seriously suggesting the title winning manager youd be replaced, we then have people actually agreeing with them, then we have people making up non existent facts, and then other people replying to correct them with comments that are wrong!!

 

Cagliari: Got team promoted in two consecutive seasons and won a domestic cup. Improved each year.

 

Fiorentina: Got team promoted, then finished 4th in top division, then finished 9th with a European Semi Final. team didnt regress each year.

 

Chelsea: Finished 6th, then 6th, then 3rd, then 2nd, whilst also having a run to the Champions League Semi Final. Improved every year.

 

Roma and Parma: One season jobs, avoided relegation with Parma, finished 2nd behind Mourinho's treble winners at Roma after giving Inter a 3 game head start. Teams didnt go backwards.

 

Monaco: From Ligue 2, to 2nd in Ligue 1, in two years.

 

If people want to make shit up at least put some thought into it

 

 

 

Brilliantly put. You're on form tonight mate. The state of some people on here is staggering.

[Matt]

47 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

2 pages of this nonsense was enough for me - reactionary, fickle and ungrateful. They're all having difficulties, it's obvious, and we don't really know why.

 

Support them, all of them, loudly.

Agreed, but I go back to my point of the Liverpool performance, Man Utd subs, and todays resting of players/comments post match, is there any point in fans giving their support if we're going to treat these pre CL games with this type of discontent? To make it worse (in a way - in terms of cost of travel) they've all been away aswell.

[HighPeakFox]

8 minutes ago, Matt said:

Agreed, but I go back to my point of the Liverpool performance, Man Utd subs, and todays resting of players/comments post match, is there any point in fans giving their support if we're going to treat these pre CL games with this type of discontent? To make it worse (in a way - in terms of cost of travel) they've all been away aswell.

I understand that totally. Did you mean contempt rather than discontent? 

[Guest ttfn]

22 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

It's a good job we did as well as we did last season. He's amassed a massive amount of credit in the bank.

13 goals from 4 away matches......the credit is dwindling.

I fee like he's amassed £1 billion and spent a tenner.

 

Its unbelievably frustrating watching us throw away matches with poor preparation and Schlupp on the right wing but this man led us to a league title, the unprecedented nature of which I don't think will ever sink in. It was literally unthinkable that we'd challenge for, let alone win, a league title in my (and I presume your!) lifetime.

[Matt]

8 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I understand that totally. Did you mean contempt rather than discontent? 

 

Yes

[jock2612]

We need to concentrate on the prem! CR tactics and team selection today was absolutely awful. Think it is far too early to consider getting rid but it wont be long if carries on like today.

   

[Dan]

Today's the first time I've seriously tried to wonder what the hell is going on in his head. The line-up made absolutely no sense what so ever to me and the performance has continued our run of away displays getting progressively worse, as unbelievable as that may seem.

 

And with that last bit in mind, and a fired up Spurs coming at us, we could easily be hit for six or seven if we aren't careful. I just cannot grasp how a manager who got it spot on so many times last season can keep getting it this wrong.

[VLC86]

33 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

It's a good job we did as well as we did last season. He's amassed a massive amount of credit in the bank.

13 goals from 4 away matches......the credit is dwindling.

The credit is dwindling?!?!  He won the ****ing premier league when we would have been happy with 17th and we have lost 4 games yet it's 'Dwindling'?

 

Get a grip!

[LJS]

**** me. We've not even had that bad a start. If last season hadn't happened most would be happy enough. Three of our four defeats have been away at clubs you'd expect to be challenging for a top four place. 

 

As for Ranieri, he won us the only league title in the club's 132 year history. He gets to go on his own terms, whenever that might be. There is nothing that I've seen to suggest that it ought to be any time soon.

[Guest LCFC_World]

3 minutes ago, LJS said:

**** me. We've not even had that bad a start. If last season hadn't happened most would be happy enough. Three of our four defeats have been away at clubs you'd expect to be challenging for a top four place. 

 

As for Ranieri, he won us the only league title in the club's 132 year history. He gets to go on his own terms, whenever that might be. There is nothing that I've seen to suggest that it ought to be any time soon.

Gets to go on his own terms? Now I'm not saying sack him, but no one is bigger than the club - not even Ranieri.

[Guest Lako42]

Grow up

[Wymsey]

I just wonder how many moaning about Ranieri now are those that written him off even before last season started.

[Izzy]

20 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I understand that totally. Did you mean contempt rather than discontent? 

 true to form HPF.

As our own King Richard III would say: Now is the winter of our discontempt 

[Guest Lako42]

If our fans start on an Ranieri at games then be prepared for some shit.

 

 

****ing plebs

[ramadaone]

1 hour ago, Donut said:

Is the shittest thread ever? Not only do we have people seriously suggesting the title winning manager youd be replaced, we then have people actually agreeing with them, then we have people making up non existent facts, and then other people replying to correct them with comments that are wrong!!

 

Cagliari: Got team promoted in two consecutive seasons and won a domestic cup. Improved each year.

 

Fiorentina: Got team promoted, then finished 4th in top division, then finished 9th with a European Semi Final. team didnt regress each year.

 

Chelsea: Finished 6th, then 6th, then 3rd, then 2nd, whilst also having a run to the Champions League Semi Final. Improved every year.

 

Roma and Parma: One season jobs, avoided relegation with Parma, finished 2nd behind Mourinho's treble winners at Roma after giving Inter a 3 game head start. Teams didnt go backwards.

 

Monaco: From Ligue 2, to 2nd in Ligue 1, in two years.

 

If people want to make shit up at least put some thought into it

 

 

I asked a question because of a comment elsewhere just couldn't be arsed to look it up

I wasn't stating a fact

 

[BlueSi13]

Noticed a few people mentioned Pearson.  Sure we'd never have won the league with him, but we wouldn't have put in such disgusting performances either.

 

As for Ranieri, too early to make a judgement on his position.  However the playing staff do need the most almighty rocket up the arse to shake them out of this mess.  At 64 years old with nothing left to prove after winning the first major title of his career, does he have the motivation and stomach to deliver this tirade to a bunch of players who delivered him so much success last season?  His reluctance to change systems and personal despite consistently delivering some of the worse performances in years suggests not at this stage.

 

I'm sure he considered leaving on the ultimate high note in May.  I can only hope it doesn't end in disgrace when Top pulls the trigger with us languishing in the bottom three in January.

[HankMarvin]

3 hours ago, Barky said:

Judging by this thread I think there's nothing else to do but lose all sense of perspective and control over ourselves. I've just had a shit in the bath. It looks a bit like Pearson. Could be a sign.

what about an ostrich in the toilet is it a sign