Ranieri

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

Losing 2-0 doesn't get you anymore points than 3-0. Chelsea scored their last while we were chasing the game, under Pearson we'd have given up 2-0 and just tried to stop it being embarrassing.

So you don't think conceding more goals doesn't affect confidence or the goal difference column? 

 

In that game at chelsea under Pearson, we had a shot on target. At 0-0, Nugent was 1 on 1 with about 25 minutes left. It was far more than we produced today. 

 

Thats not me advocating for Pearson to return or Ranieri to be sacked. I want Ranieri to start changing things around because after 3 rotten away performances, we didn't improve set piece marking today, we didn't show any more willing and we played a system what allowed our slow defenders to be continually exposed. 

[whetstonefox]

If we beat Copenhagen we are more or less qualified for CL knock out, and I'd imagine, or hope, that the PL becomes the priority again.

 

he has to look at how we set up away from home, but cut him some slack this season was always going to be a bit weird, never know may end up winning the FA Cup.

 

League wise I've downgraded my prediction of 7-10th to 11-15th

[Keith Wellers Tights]

1 minute ago, sylofox said:

I may be wrong but i think you have took the comment out of context. We are champions but look nothing like champions. We are cannon fodder at the minute.

I don't disagree with that. The last three away games have been worse than poor, they have actually been embarrassing, almost everyone will agree with that. I still don't agree with the sack Ranieri sentiments. People are entitled to their opinion but I simply don't agree with anyone who wants Ranieri out after 8 games of this season. Not only does he deserve time to sort it out but, If they get their way, who is going to replace him? They'll still have the same players and, for my money, the players have been piss poor in general. Yes it's his job to sort that out but he HAS to be given the chance to do so.

 

[sm1]

What impressed me most about Claudio last season was his ability to see what was going wrong and changing it, either at half time or for the next game. This season he seems completely stuck in his ways and refusing to change. 442 was dead in pre season, yet we've been smashed pretty much every away game. 3-0 scoreline is being kind to us, it could've been 5-6, likewise Liverpool or Man Utd could have been 6-7.

Claudio and we are better then this. Last season when Mahrez didn't perform he was dropped, this season non performing players are not in danger of being dropped. Claudio needs to be ruthless, how the likes of Musa/Schlupp start infront of Gray only Claudio knows. Albrighton & Vardy have been below par far too many times, you could add Mahrez to that list aswell. We see how changing the system at Chelsea has improved them, I expect something similar either in system or personnel from Claudio, he's good enough to do it.

[sylofox]

1 minute ago, Keith Wellers Tights said:

I don't disagree with that. The last three away games have been worse than poor, they have actually been embarrassing, almost everyone will agree with that. I still don't agree with the sack Ranieri sentiments. People are entitled to their opinion but I simply don't agree with anyone who wants Ranieri out after 8 games of this season. Not only does he deserve time to sort it out but, If they get their way, who is going to replace him? They'll still have the same players and, for my money, the players have been piss poor in general. Yes it's his job to sort that out but he HAS to be given the chance to do so.

 

I don't agree with the CR out. But I would like to know who overseen our summer spending. We chase fwd's all summer. Centre mid last minute and no back four.

 

 

[Fox92]

17 minutes ago, Keith Wellers Tights said:

We're not supposed to be Champions of England. We are Champions of England. Fair few on here seem to be forgetting that.

If we want to become a total laughing stock, that would be the way to do it, unceremoniously sack the manager who won the league 8 games into the season.

I'm not going to argue against the evidence regarding the last 3 away games, that would be stupidity, but sack Ranieri 8 games into the season? That's what's ridiculous. If we are in the bottom 4 with 12 games left I could possibly understand those calls though I still might not agree with them.

Agree talk about sacking him is stupid but something needs changing seriously.

 

We don't play, fight or act like we're champions of England.

[ithuriel]

Have to agree with some of the above posts, some players seem to be just strolling through games and only put the effort in for the Champions League games, which appear to be the priority.

All three away games before the CL games the team looks like players that are only half hearted and have lead to heavy defeats.

[Webbo]

You've only got to look at the last 2 similar sized teams to win the league, Leeds and Blackburn, to see that struggling in the following season is not unusual. Even Chelsea only finished 10th last season. We've just got to lower expectations a bit.

[Keith Wellers Tights]

Just now, sylofox said:

I don't agree with the CR out. But I would like to know who overseen our summer spending. We chase fwd's all summer. Centre mid last minute and no back four.

 

 

Couldn't agree more. It was obvious we needed defensive cover at centre half and right back, even if Morgan and Huth had as good a season again. Midfield looked a little light but the injury to Mendy was unlucky. Unfortunately, we had a World class player in Kante but we were unlikely to attract anyone as good as him, which is a major reason why he moved on I would reckon. The Musa deal seems strange, people have suggested that he was a direct replacement for Vardy who hadn't indicated he was definitely staying but I don't buy that. Slimani I can understand as he offers something different and is an improvement on Ulloa from what I've seen. All in all, the recruitment was at best ill judged and we seem to have overpaid for everyone we brought in.

[dylanlegend]

25 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said:

I for one didn't even consider it, especially with the extra games.

What is concerning is the way we set up, today it looked like we were beat as soon as the first goal went in.

The fight and energy of last season appears a distant memory, the lack of ideas in defending, and attacking, the lack of confidence, mixed in with being ridged with the formation, and poor performances are concerning.

To go to Chelsea, and play a weakened side, with schlupp who has hardly played, Simpson dropped, show arrogance, or showing no interest in the league, either way we got what we deserved, a shocking performance, followed by a sound beating.

No interest in a manager change, but a change from what we are seeing, and a change from playing players who don't deserve to be there, play in form players, wether tired or not, before the all lose confidence 

Did we really play a weakened side? Mahrez has been shocking away from home this season and maybe tactically CR thought schlupp would offer more defensive cover, he was hoping Chelsea would pile forward and leave space for Musa and Vardy to run into. Unfortunately that didnt happen but I think all this talk of a weakened side is nonsense. Its all that pri*k Souness went on about on Sky. I personally just though it was a tactical line up.

[Keith Wellers Tights]

9 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Agree talk about sacking him is stupid but something needs changing seriously.

 

We don't play, fight or act like we're champions of England.

I totally agree with you Fox92. I have absolutely no objection to anything you've said there. I was only reacting to the posters suggesting sacking him 8 games in. As I've stated above (and have many others including you), it has to change because it's a massive fall from grace given the last few performances. No one is unsackable, I just think we have to give him some time which you seem to agree with. We're all pissed off with those 4 away games.

[lcfcdamo]

I think he has lost the plot that 11 he put out come on not one  manager in the premier and not 1 would if picked that 11 442 with musa and Schlupp and Albrighton is a joke  wot has gray got to do bin looking brilliant every time gets a chance every 1 else bin so poor and still dont get a start 

[Donut]

1 hour ago, NeilLCFC said:

I've been saying this for a while now, only to get slated by morons on here who can't think outside the box. The more we move away from Pearson's way of doing things, the worse we get. 

There are some flat out embarrasing posts in this thread, but you are certainly one of the most vocal.

 

Youd be a moron to take a manager who won the Premier League with Leicester City (Leicester City ffs) and replace him after 8 games.

 

Winning the league bought him 8 games of credit with you. EIGHT. When managers like Ferguson took years to build title winning teams with massive clubs, Ranieri took over a team that finished 14th, they were hardly world beaters who were dreadful in more games than a few and got them to achieve things beyond their wildest dreams and improve massively.

 

Arsene Wenger hasnt won a league title for over a decade at Arsenal and he still receives support. And he manages Arsenal FFS. You think were in terminal decline? Weve just taken 6 points in the Champions League and are ready to spend in January again.

 

I understand that the away results have been poor and we should have been much better in all of them. But weve played Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea away, all in succession. that is HARD.

 

Hes been without one of his main signings all season as well in Mendy. Who knows, if Mendy was fit, maybe he would go with a 3 in midfield.

 

Ranieri improved Vardy, Mahrez, Morgan, Huth 1000%. "The more we move away from Pearson" this one line is fvcking tragic, like he had some sort of magic formula that no other manager could discover. I think the fact that he mustered 2 goals in 8 games at Derby and got sacked shows that his way aint always the best way and when Ranieri started moving AWAY from his thinking, thats when he started WINNING THE LEAGUE.

 

Pearson left him some players. Sure. Ferguson left Moyes some players but how well did that go? Your quote is effectively saying that Ranieri was only successful in copying Pearsons thoughts, when the reality was he changed loads of things.

 

Absolutely tragic post

 

 

[Monsell1976]

10 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

Did we really play a weakened side? Mahrez has been shocking away from home this season and maybe tactically CR thought schlupp would offer more defensive cover, he was hoping Chelsea would pile forward and leave space for Musa and Vardy to run into. Unfortunately that didnt happen but I think all this talk of a weakened side is nonsense. Its all that pri*k Souness went on about on Sky. I personally just though it was a tactical line up.

He brought in players that offered nothing, and their early season form suggested that they would offer nothing.

That first half was the worst I have seen from a leicester side in a long time, we couldn't pass a ball to each other.

Schlupp didn't look interested, and was booed for his lack of interest at running at the Chelsea defenders, musa is coming in for stick, did no more, no less than vardy, but the lack of service, and the likes of albrighton just aimlessly booting the ball forward, what could either do.

Slimani has been our only real goal threat, should have played, mahrez has been inconsistent, but has proved what he can do, should have started, Simpson is as good as henandez, but has more prem experience, should have started.

Claudio took a gamble, with one eye on the midweek game, his selection and players let him down.

Albrighton had said in interview that they need to stop hiding, no excuses, they need to get back to what worked last season, hard work, high tempo, in your face football, not the lacklustre shite we have been seeing

[Matt]

So after the Liverpool performance, the Man Utd subs and today's resting of players/post match comments from Ranieri (even though I agree with dropping Mahrez) should fans just boycott the games we play before Champions League games?

 

Because if the players aren't going to turn up/rest players/quite clearly instruct the players to ease off, why should the fans turn up?

[Koke]

Our fixture list is horrific. Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Tottenham away games in a ROW. Not to mention Arsenal at home. The performances are dreadful but by November we will be picking up points at a rapid rate. 

 

Tottenham away is our 9th league game and by then we've already played Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United. 4 of the 5 being away from home. And on top of that, competiting in the Champions League. 

 

Just a bit of perspective. 

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Starting to really question his team selections 

 

Schlupp is wank and we should have snapped WBA hands off in the summer. 

 

No style of play, no work on defending set pieces and no attacking play at all. Even his subs are dodgy. Why bring on King?!

 

Just change the formation ffs

[Hammo]

Whatever the views of Ranieri expressed on here (and those calling for him to be sacked need to have a serious word with themselves), we have surely got to the point where we need the local reporters (Mercury, Radio Leicester etc) to start asking searching questions about his persistence with 442, defending at corners, team selections etc and not just accept the usual "it's ok" pidgin English-type response and accompanying chuckle that he provides as answers. We fans deserve some proper explanations.

[ramadaone]

Is it a fact that everywhere CR has managed the team has got worse season by season ( in terms of league position )

 

Doesnt sound right to me 

[Donut]

1 minute ago, ramadaone said:

Is it a fact that everywhere CR has managed the team has got worse season by season ( in terms of league position )

 

Doesnt sound right to me 

No its blatantly not a fact is it.

 

Go and look at his career.

[bovril]

8 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

Is it a fact that everywhere CR has managed the team has got worse season by season ( in terms of league position )

 

Doesnt sound right to me 

If he doesn't improve on last season's finish something's wrong imo

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

15 minutes ago, Hammo said:

Whatever the views of Ranieri expressed on here (and those calling for him to be sacked need to have a serious word with themselves), we have surely got to the point where we need the local reporters (Mercury, Radio Leicester etc) to start asking searching questions about his persistence with 442, defending at corners, team selections etc and not just accept the usual "it's ok" pidgin English-type response and accompanying chuckle that he provides as answers. We fans deserve some proper explanations.

You're right but it will never happen, radio Leicester and the Mercury are in bed with all the Leicester sporting clubs, you'll never get many searching questions regarding inept performances from our sides, it's too much like criticism and they won't risk it.

 

im fully behind Claudio, I don't for one minute believe he was responsible for our odd summer transfer dealings 

[Stan]

Handy thread for a bit of Loony spotting.

[Realist Guy In The Room]

15 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

Is it a fact that everywhere CR has managed the team has got worse season by season ( in terms of league position )

 

Doesnt sound right to me 

Apart from Monaco and Chelsea.

[psychonaut]

2 hours ago, erlee said:

 

 

the only fault for Ranieri is to keep most his selection from last year.  He should drop some of them.  e.g. Albrighton, Huth

Yes I agree. I'm not saying he's beyond critism - not at all - but why the need for folk to jump to extremes?! a verbal warning?! Wtf! Only 9 PL games ago we were lifting the title! It disgusts me if I'm honest. Reminds me of the angy mob characters in the Simpsons.