Tuna Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 Personally I feel The Don will call it a day at the end of the season. At 65, having done the unthinkable and won the Premier League and navigating the club through it's maiden champions league campaign what really is there now to achieve? Trying to get back into the top 4? Winning another trophy? Nothing beats the Premier League title and he'll be only too aware of his legacy being tarnished by carrying on and on like Wenger has done. All we heard last season was 'I will not sign big names, my boys are special'. He must feel so badly let down that they have underperformed in the league since last season. He's been too loyal to last season's team. The game stands still for no one, we have not improved and have been overtaken by other clubs. Football has to be about constant evolution, we had a glorious opportunity in the summer with the standing and reputation of the club at the highest it has ever been and probably ever will be. Adding 3 or 4 excellent quality players would have enabled us to remain competetive at the top end of the table. Look at how Sir Alex jettisoned Keane, van Nistelrooy, Beckham, Butt over the years when they went into decline, you have to anticipate what may happen rather than reacting to what may happen. It stood to reason that the defence was ageing and needed younger and fresher legs.
Collibosher70 Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 difficult to put a finger on it , last season the team as a whole chased and harried things down so losing kante shouldnt make much difference. tuna has made some good comments regarding players..for me schlupp ..king..was..ulloa who have been good servants for this club should be moved on and replaced with higher quality players but catch 22...musa has been brought in also amartey and they are hardly setting the place a light. away from home i would like to see a 433 system and maybe okazaki could do a job in midfiels who knows...we still have to wait for mendy to return once fit
Sly Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 This season is basically how I thought last season would go. Joking aside, we don't look great, we've not got players that over performed last season earning massive wages. I don't think we'all go down but I think we'll do well to finish mid table.
Koke Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 There are guys at the club who've been great servants but need to be moved on but instead they've been given contracts. Wasilewski, King, Ulloa, Schlupp etc need to be replaced. Our CBs are aging. Morgan is 33 in January and Huth isn't far behind. Fuchs has already declared this will be his last contract in Europe. I think we will be fine this season but summer 2017 there needs some serious work on the squad. I agree with Tuna. I'm not sure CR fancies it given his age. What else can achieve with this team?
Gerard Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 1 hour ago, Collibosher70 said: difficult to put a finger on it , last season the team as a whole chased and harried things down so losing kante shouldnt make much difference. tuna has made some good comments regarding players..for me schlupp ..king..was..ulloa who have been good servants for this club should be moved on and replaced with higher quality players but catch 22...musa has been brought in also amartey and they are hardly setting the place a light. away from home i would like to see a 433 system and maybe okazaki could do a job in midfiels who knows...we still have to wait for mendy to return once fit The amount of squealing by a large amount of our fans on here that we shouldn't sell Ulloa or Schlupp because they didn't want any of our title winning players to leave was so naive. In football never settle for what you have, teams constantly evolve. Always strive to improve the team and if you get an offer for squad players that probably are at their high point then sell them.
Gerard Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 2 minutes ago, Koke said: There are guys at the club who've been great servants but need to be moved on but instead they've been given contracts. Wasilewski, King, Ulloa, Schlupp etc need to be replaced. Our CBs are aging. Morgan is 33 in January and Huth isn't far behind. Fuchs has already declared this will be his last contract in Europe. I think we will be fine this season but summer 2017 there needs some serious work on the squad. I agree with Tuna. I'm not sure CR fancies it given his age. What else can achieve with this team? I didn't mind the Wasilewski and King extensions. These were players that we didn't have offers for and although neither are at the level I would like they're both reasonably competent and happy to be squad players and you need players like that at any club. For me we should always strive to have the balance of the squad like this: 14 players who believe they should be first XI 5 young up and coming players who you expect to break into the first team at some point 5 older squad players who are happy in their support roles to the first team. These players should either be ex first team players who have fallen in the pecking order and we haven't had decent money offered for them like King or cheap and free transfrers like Hernandez.
cc_star Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 On 15/10/2016 at 14:13, Buce said: He still has a lot of credit in the bank from last season, but how much more of this crap are we supposed to take? If I was Vichai, I'd be issuing a verbal warning. Well, I don't know about action... But Ranieri much like our £100k/wk star players needs to sh1t or get off the pot Last season was every superlative you can dream of, but it was just that LAST season
ealingfox Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 13 hours ago, Tuna said: Personally I feel The Don will call it a day at the end of the season. He's under contract so I'm not sure its as simple as that.
filbertboy Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 On 15/10/2016 at 14:20, Brooksy said: Get rid and get pearson back. ridiculous
fuchsntf Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 18 hours ago, BlueSi13 said: I have no idea what point you're trying to make? Are we supposed to completely ignore the absolutely shambolic performances happening right now because of what happened last season? Are you allowed to do that in your current line of work? Have a great performance review one year and give up trying the next? I did...worked hard a few years, then went mad.....Ask my boss !!
Heskey2011 Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 Can't believe people are even suggesting, questioning, anything Cladio does, ever really. I mean who are you? I imagine you can't remember the days of wishing, hoping, and preying for a point away at Leeds of league one football, of Steve Howard. Because you weren't there. If we don't get another point, all season, he should be leading us in the championship. We're playing champions league ffs.
Tuna Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 Just now, Heskey2011 said: Can't believe people are even suggesting, questioning, anything Cladio does, ever really. I mean who are you? I imagine you can't remember the days of wishing, hoping, and preying for a point away at Leeds of league one football, of Steve Howard. Because you weren't there. If we don't get another point, all season, he should be leading us in the championship. We're playing champions league ffs. You sound like Ty from Arsenalfantv.
Guest MattP Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 We actually have a thread where some people are considering sacking the manager who currently has Leicester City at the top of a Champions League group, some of the stuff thrown at Pearson from the fans was bad but this is another level. Yes it's been bad so far, but we've had a tough start, have our eye on other things and the heirachy caved into anyone wanting a new deal which appears to have affected motivation and whored the squad out for money over the summer on a World tour that wouldn't have helped fatigue, we have to trust him to work it out, it's eight games since we finished top of the Premier league by ten points, let's have some patience.
dannythefox Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 I give it 4 games before fans are booing at half time.
Dr The Singh Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 Always be a legend but he needs to buck up his ideas
crazyleicester Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 9 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: Always be a legend but he needs to buck up his ideas We cant be too hasty here mate. He started the season with the exciting Gray, that didnt quite work out. He also gave King a starting berth but that didnt work and soon switched to Amartey when Mendy got injured. He has given Musa a crack, even Oka to try and rekindle last seasons balance and it hasnt worked. He has switched formation at times even in the game like at Chelsea last time out and even kept the RB position fresh by giving Hernandez a go. I think CR has done OK but hasnt quite hit the luck of last season when whatever he seemed to do seemed to come off. One thing though regarding CR. He was always quick to praise his amazing players last season and their efforts and performance. Before we string the dude up I think the lacklustre players need to buck up their ideas before CR does. Its not like CR has stood still but some of our players have and in fact have gone backwards. Huth, Wes, Mahrez, Vardy and Albrighton have largely been nowhere near the standard they set last season. Our season will be a lot better if we actually put some fight in and started taking responsibility. For me only DD has played near last seasons standard and Slimani is arguably battling him for our best player of the season thus far. I would through Kasper in but he hasnt played in a few but when played never seems to let us down. Stand up lads and start playing for the shirt you slackers!!!
HankMarvin Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 2 hours ago, Heskey2011 said: Can't believe people are even suggesting, questioning, anything Cladio does, ever really. I mean who are you? I imagine you can't remember the days of wishing, hoping, and preying for a point away at Leeds of league one football, of Steve Howard. Because you weren't there. If we don't get another point, all season, he should be leading us in the championship. We're playing champions league ffs. What about if we were there, and everything has a natural progression, just like every bad memory can be replaced with a positive, there are many football fans that can do the opposite villa fans, Leeds fans, forest fans, Blackburn fans, just because we are currently playing in the champions league, doesn't give CR the right not to be questioned on how we progress, because in a few years it will be nothing but a memory. It's not just about how you get there, it's about how you push on. under your mindset let's give CR a lifetime contract until he dies based on the fact he won the league, regardless of were we end up
Corky Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 1 hour ago, MattP said: We actually have a thread where some people are considering sacking the manager who currently has Leicester City at the top of a Champions League group, some of the stuff thrown at Pearson from the fans was bad but this is another level. It's because they've shown a level of competancy and the ability to win matches regularly that fuels expectation. It took some time to turn against Levein, Kelly, Holloway etc because they were hopeless, told us we were and we just put up with it until it became too much. Ranieri's performance has been poor in the league but against last year's it's worse because he was so good. He'll get it right again and we could have three wins from three in the Champions League by Wednesday.
StriderHiryu Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 Performances have been poor but you can't just blame it on Ranieri as other than Drinky and maybe Kaspar and Slimani, the rest have been well below par. We we have huge problems. Stats show that our midfield interceptions are down around 30-40% per game and as a result opponents are getting 40-50% more chances on our goal. Add in schoolboy errors and reliance on pumping it long and we look terrible. Conceding tons and don't look like scoring! Realistically top 10 plus reaching CL knock-out stage is the best we can aim for. But to achieve that Ranieri has got to sort it out! I think we've got to try different things. Ranieri gave me me the greatest day ever as a Leicester fan so I'll back him all the way. Definitely worthy of criticism right now but in Ranieri I trust!
fuchsntf Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 53 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: What about if we were there, and everything has a natural progression, just like every bad memory can be replaced with a positive, there are many football fans that can do the opposite villa fans, Leeds fans, forest fans, Blackburn fans, just because we are currently playing in the champions league, doesn't give CR the right not to be questioned on how we progress, because in a few years it will be nothing but a memory. It's not just about how you get there, it's about how you push on. under your mindset let's give CR a lifetime contract until he dies based on the fact he won the league, regardless of were we end up Last sentence very silly. 2nd last sentence, in sport its only about how and when you get there. What comes after ...pushing on nice but not heartbreaking. We are not, even with Thai rather rich owners set up to do a Chelsea or Man.city. We hoped our players from last season, still would keep that adrennilin, that spirit n fight levels up, We the fans were too expectant and a bit offtrack.We never had a group of players that had a permanent, MUST-Win era within their genes.We dreamed we saw, we enjoyed, this group of ours upset the odds, on pure highs of fight, spirit, group character with some Skill, and incredible pace. They simply dont have another such season in them, it hurts but I really believe, they havent Imploded physically but mentally .
Heskey2011 Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: "just because we are currently playing in the champions league" this is the most mental thing I have ever heard, who do you support?
Russell sprout Posted 16 October 2016 Posted 16 October 2016 5 hours ago, Tuna said: You sound like Ty from Arsenalfantv. He makes a valid point,some should be careful what they wish for
Blackpool Fox 69 Posted 17 October 2016 Posted 17 October 2016 To those calling for the head of a man, who achieved something no other Manager we have had in 132 years! Just wow, replace him with who? I don't think Guardiola, Pochettino or Koeman are coming anytime soon. Claudio is guilty of trusting some players who are well off the pace of last season, only Drinky, Albrighton and Kaspar are anywhere near where they were last season, the ones who are well below are Mahrez, Vardy and Morgan, while the rest have dropped of a bit, apart from Fergusons United, hardly any teams come back as good, following a title win, it is more prevalent with us, simply because our players, had an amazing season, when you consider the stature of them, pre our glorious, joyous amazing season(which still has me welling up at times) they were mostly a bunch of cheap signings(compared to the big boys) and frees, we are where we are, lets not turn into Arsenal fans, the reason we have such a great home record is because we are amazing, we get behind the lads. Let's keep our sense of humour, as I have said before, I loved our fans at United, 4-0 down and we are singing, you'll never win league one! Lets keep what keeps us special.
Guy Posted 17 October 2016 Posted 17 October 2016 While I wouldn't say Claudio's days are numbered (and I'm certain that Pearson wouldn't return for a third spell here - and probably wouldn't be offered the opportunity to do so as long as the Thais remain, after what happened in summer 2015!), all the same I'm sure like us as fans, the Thais are beginning to get restless now and must be asking questions themselves about where it's all suddenly gone wrong on the pitch this season to date, mainly against the better teams. I'm sure talks about it all in a boardroom meeting will be underway soon if we continue to stutter in the league and start to do so in the bonus Champions League, especially if it's then at home too. I do wonder if Claudio is being left alone in this regard for now due to our Champions League exploits, while still not forgetting what he did for us last season too of course! Then again he can't dine out on that for much longer this season if we end up being dragged into a relegation scrap. Meanwhile the more you think about it, the more you sadly start to realise that last season's unthinkable title triumph was likely to be a curse for any season that followed it, none more so than this one straight after : Champions League inclusion 'n' all! This strange phenomenon has probably been talked about and/or certainly felt by many on here already I dare say! Then add the fact that the players' mindsets from last season are different this season and have been altered due to last season's achievements and the fact that everybody's coming at us as 'PL Champions' then it was always going to be a lot tougher.....! The summer recruitment process in trying to replace the unreplaceable Kante and to bolster the squad also didn't go to plan with the players signed - although you have to ask why the likes of Kapustka have still yet to figure in the first team when the defence as a whole is underperforming this season, mainly away from home of course....amongst other puzzling selections such as against Chelsea yesterday! Over to you Claudio!
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