Rachik Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 I know very well Slimani, I followed him since his beginning in 2008, in "JSM Cheraga", a small town near to mine. Slimani is a very smart player, not very skilled to dribble but very strong to cover the ball waiting for wings and middlefield to join, and very strong to score, he is a goal machine. He generally receive the ball in the middle or so, cover, let other players to come, then give the ball back, replace as a 9, then wait for wings for a good cross to his head. He always give 200%, even if the team is loosing 10-0. He also in love with FANs, they are his fuel. I dont think Vardy dont want to work with him, I think he still in the mood of one attacker, he often shoot even if Slimani is alone. Let's give them more time, and trust Ranieri. PS: In all his previous club/national, he always play alone (like Vardy last year), and he is good at that. See the first goal in world cup againt Korea, its a LEI play with a long ball (25:30min). He also can attract the defenders, then give assists to Vardy, like you see at 37m of the match (3rd goal).
David Guiza Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: Also Vardy wanting to quit football at one stage shows he has a weak mentality. I'd imagine that some of the greatest sportsmen and women of all time have wanted to quit their sports at some point, bizarre comment.
desertfox2 Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 6 minutes ago, David Guiza said: I'd imagine that some of the greatest sportsmen and women of all time have wanted to quit their sports at some point, bizarre comment. Good point. Plus equally you could say it shows a very strong mentality to go from feeling like quitting to going on to having the season he had last year.
Guest Col city fan Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 4 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said: I think it's a sorry tale of modern football when a player with his touch and general ability on the deck commands a 28 Million pound fee but he's doing the business in terms of work rate closing down making the runs and he is absolutely exceptional in the air. Contributing more than Vardy, I dunno what we are going to do with Musa, and Shinji and Ulloa barely getting a kick so yes at the moment he's your preferred striker. Bang on the money for me. Slim don't look yet a 28 million quid striker. But what does that sort of money get you these days? He's great in the air and looks more dangerous than Ulloa, but Slim ain't the quickest. His first tough isn't fantastic either IMO. Of all the summer signings he of course looks the best, but also by far the most expensive. However, and I say this about Musa too....any striker is only as good as the service they get. THIS is where the club has fallen short. By having a plethora of strikers but no creative central midfielder (bar Drinkwater, of sorts) it's like playing a violin without a bow. Just imagine Slim and Vardy with a Gary Parker playing behind them or, dare I say it, a modern day Steve Thompson or Izzett. They would instantly both look 50% better I'd suggest.
Clever Fox Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 15 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Bang on the money for me. Slim don't look yet a 28 million quid striker. But what does that sort of money get you these days? He's great in the air and looks more dangerous than Ulloa, but Slim ain't the quickest. His first tough isn't fantastic either IMO. Of all the summer signings he of course looks the best, but also by far the most expensive. However, and I say this about Musa too....any striker is only as good as the service they get. THIS is where the club has fallen short. By having a plethora of strikers but no creative central midfielder (bar Drinkwater, of sorts) it's like playing a violin without a bow. Just imagine Slim and Vardy with a Gary Parker playing behind them or, dare I say it, a modern day Steve Thompson or Izzett. They would instantly both look 50% better I'd suggest. Spot on Col. Slimani is one of those players who are not particularly talented but knows where to be in the box to score Goals. We just need to improve the service to him and he will score plenty of goals for us. Musa has more skill on the Ball than Vardy, And provided he can handle the physical side of the premiership I feel will prove a very good player for us. The trouble will be trying to fit 3 into 2 up front and expecting them all to play really well when asked to. Your analogy of the violin and our midfield is also correct. What's hard to understand is, We can all see that we need is a quality midfielder to provide the chances. Why didn't CR or Rudkin not see that and why didn't we not make sure to sign one in the Summer instead of waiting until the last week or so and missing out. We need to have someone lined up for January who can come straight in and contribute. Who is also not European Cup tied. Although I think Kaputska will prove another good signing when he get's his chance. While i agree the squad is stronger there is still an imbalance in it and also an imbalance in the way we line out which needs to be addressed.
sdb Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 Would love vardy and slimani to click but for me, Okazaki has to start. Plays between the lines and offers another option to the goofball we've largely resorted to this season.
Gerard Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 Vardy and Slimani won't work IMO, it's one or the other.
cgsutton69 Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 I think they can work together but we need to play 4231 on occasion The problem is, sorry to say the loss of kante. We win the ball deeper in our own half and try straight away for the long ball. We have no one winning the ball further up the pitch or running from central midfield with the ball, a la kante
Dan Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 Slimani can look a bit of a donkey at times but he's extremely effective. Very strong, quicker than I thought he'd be, fantastic in the air. Always looks like he could score. Right now if we were playing two forwards I'd be inclined to play him and Okazaki.
FireFox Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 Kasper Hernandez - Wes - Huth Albrighton - Drinky - Amartey - Fuchs Mahrez - Okazaki Slimani Maybe King/Mendy for Okazaki. Or maybe even Gray/Musa, but that leaves the midfield a bit weak. Play to his strengths. Give him crosses, proper crosses, play Albrighton on the right. Long throws from Hernandez and Fuchs too. The beginning of the 2nd half against Chelsea showed Claudio is willing to change it up and play with wingbacks. Please Claudio, try it again.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 He's not that good in the air. Lost more than he won and didnt jump for some. If that was Ulloa on the pitch with the exact same performance, he'd be getting ratings of 4 or 5 in the match ratings thread. I dont think he's that much of an upgrade in Leo.
Charl91 Posted 19 October 2016 Posted 19 October 2016 If Ulloa got a goal (wrongly disallowed) and an assist, he'd be getting more than a rating of 4.
Manwell Pablo Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 10 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: He's not that good in the air. Lost more than he won and didnt jump for some. If that was Ulloa on the pitch with the exact same performance, he'd be getting ratings of 4 or 5 in the match ratings thread. I dont think he's that much of an upgrade in Leo. Time for a User Name change I think.
Babylon Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 10 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: He's not that good in the air. Lost more than he won and didnt jump for some. If that was Ulloa on the pitch with the exact same performance, he'd be getting ratings of 4 or 5 in the match ratings thread. I dont think he's that much of an upgrade in Leo. Ulloa doesn't have the mobility to do half the stuff slim does sadly. He's probably got a better touch and control though.
leicesterlad1989 Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 11 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: He's not that good in the air. Lost more than he won and didnt jump for some. If that was Ulloa on the pitch with the exact same performance, he'd be getting ratings of 4 or 5 in the match ratings thread. I dont think he's that much of an upgrade in Leo. 19 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Time for a User Name change I think. I tend to agree about him being "not that good in the air." In terms of getting into the box and scoring with his head, he I probably our best player but winning headers in the midfield from goal kicks, he doesn't win too many. He seems to try to out muscle the defender rather than compete for it. Not a massive criticism of him though. I think his all round game is currently better than any striker we have.
Manwell Pablo Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 10 minutes ago, leicesterlad1989 said: I tend to agree about him being "not that good in the air." In terms of getting into the box and scoring with his head, he I probably our best player but winning headers in the midfield from goal kicks, he doesn't win too many. He seems to try to out muscle the defender rather than compete for it. Not a massive criticism of him though. I think his all round game is currently better than any striker we have. I wasn't disagreeing with the comment in general is was the Ulloa sob story that's hilarious, as if anyone would of given Ulloa 4 for the performance Slimani put in on Tuesday. By exceptional in the air I did mean as a goal threat, he doesn't win as many midfield battles as an Andy Carroll for example (anywhere near I'd imagine).
leicesterlad1989 Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: I wasn't disagreeing with the comment in general is was the Ulloa sob story that's hilarious, as if anyone would of given Ulloa 4 for the performance Slimani put in on Tuesday. By exceptional in the air I did mean as a goal threat, he doesn't win as many midfield battles as an Andy Carroll for example (anywhere near I'd imagine). My apologies - I should really have read the whole post. He IS an upgrade on Ulloa too.
Blue Collar Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 15 minutes ago, leicesterlad1989 said: I tend to agree about him being "not that good in the air." In terms of getting into the box and scoring with his head, he I probably our best player but winning headers in the midfield from goal kicks, he doesn't win too many. He seems to try to out muscle the defender rather than compete for it. Not a massive criticism of him though. I think his all round game is currently better than any striker we have. Exacly that. Jesus, the Sporting one, taught him a lot of things, one of them is to disrupt defenders by either flicking headers or nudging his marker. He used to do this a lot at Sporting and Joao Mario particularly took advantage. For that to work, first, crosses have to come from the sides, not from the middle (keeper, central defenders...) and second, you need to have quick players to latch on to the loose balls. That's why he looks sometimes frustrated, especially against MU when the ball was going over his and Smalling's/Bailly's head with no result... The great Liverpool side of the 70s was built the same way around John Toschack.
HankMarvin Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 17 hours ago, David Guiza said: I'd imagine that some of the greatest sportsmen and women of all time have wanted to quit their sports at some point, bizarre comment. Not really, he felt the pressure of the move and the fans were on his back, he was plucked from relative obscocruity and made a millionaire footballer over night. Please show me some examples of footballers at the top of the career wanting to quit. when I say top, I mean for the time non league factory worker to Championship level "Yes I did [nearly give up] to be honest with you," Vardy told BBC Late Kick Off Midlands. "But I had a few chats with the gaffer (Nigel Pearson) and they constantly told me I was good enough and they believed in me and stuck by me. I am glad to be showing the faith they showed in me on the pitch. this shows he has a weak mentality, not sure anyone suggesting quitting anything could be considered otherwise.
Nick Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 4 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: "Yes I did [nearly give up] to be honest with you," Vardy told BBC Late Kick Off Midlands. "But I had a few chats with the gaffer (Nigel Pearson) and they constantly told me I was good enough and they believed in me and stuck by me. I am glad to be showing the faith they showed in me on the pitch. this shows he has a weak mentality, not sure anyone suggesting quitting anything could be considered otherwise. Or it shows strength of character? Come on here labelling the likes of Vardy - who in his life has always been told he's not good enough and disproven that at every level of football culminating in being a Premier League Champion, holding the consecutive record for Prem goals and coming second in the golden boot? And you expect to be taken seriously making sweeping statements like that? There's only one weak mentality here and that's your inability to support a fella and publicly label him in a derogatory manner who's practically single handedly won us a title and stayed loyal to the club. Disrespectful.
Blanchy Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 My observation so far is that Slimani is not a "target man" - for instance, the failed guy that Copenhagen had Cornelius was. By that, he wins the fair majority of his battles in the air with defenders - so much so he's a target. Slimani however wins very little, almost none which surprises me, I think the perception was this guy was of that ilk - he isn't. He can however score with his head and given the right supply will clearly score goals, for those expecting him to challenge centre halfs and win the ball forget it, Vardy will win more aerial duals than slimani. I also think Slimani looks slightly "hunched" when running, strange analogy I know but almost ungamely style to his play? im sure he'll be fine but for me looks nowhere near a £30m player at 28 years old.
foxy boxing Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 slimani just needs good service and he will score the goals.he is one of the best headers of the ball and not only score goals but can set up other players to score. he is an aggressive type player that we needed to dominate the forward line. vardy is quick with his pace but slimani can hold the forward line and be a focal point of the attack something ulloa should be but isn't
yorkie1999 Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 Take some of the world's best, stick them in the premier league and they'd struggle, that's one of the reasons why the premier league is the hardest in the world
lgfualol Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 5 minutes ago, Blanchy said: My observation so far is that Slimani is not a "target man" - for instance, the failed guy that Copenhagen had Cornelius was. By that, he wins the fair majority of his battles in the air with defenders - so much so he's a target. Slimani however wins very little, almost none which surprises me, I think the perception was this guy was of that ilk - he isn't. He can however score with his head and given the right supply will clearly score goals, for those expecting him to challenge centre halfs and win the ball forget it, Vardy will win more aerial duals than slimani. I also think Slimani looks slightly "hunched" when running, strange analogy I know but almost ungamely style to his play? im sure he'll be fine but for me looks nowhere near a £30m player at 28 years old. Makes him more streamlined. Slim will be good for us when we get our act together, we just have to get the ball in the box and not float them into the keepers hands or out for a throw.
Manwell Pablo Posted 20 October 2016 Posted 20 October 2016 12 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: Or it shows strength of character? Come on here labelling the likes of Vardy - who in his life has always been told he's not good enough and disproven that at every level of football culminating in being a Premier League Champion, holding the consecutive record for Prem goals and coming second in the golden boot? And you expect to be taken seriously making sweeping statements like that? There's only one weak mentality here and that's your inability to support a fella and publicly label him in a derogatory manner who's practically single handedly won us a title and stayed loyal to the club. Disrespectful. Erm, that's a bit strong.
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