sylofox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 22 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: Talking of Kramaric whats he upto these days? From what I can find 16 games 6gls 5ass. Perhaps we need him back.
The Doctor Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 11 hours ago, Petchy said: In many ways he was! He was the one starting the attacks from deep by sprinting upfield 30-40 yards whenever he won the ball back! Chelsea reaping the rewards of that this season. When the guy is using creative midfielder to mean flair player, no he wasn't. Kante was many things, but anyone applying the word flair to him doesn't know what it means. 11 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said: We scored a counter attack goal and a Peno against West Ham. Counter attack twice against Sunderland. Wes Morgan header vs Southampton. I don't think we've scored a goal where we've kept the ball in the opposition half and carved out a goal by moving the ball. Apart from palace away. Still us breaking down teams that came to stop us playing. You say counter attacks, but they all set up to stop us playing, we just slowly drew them out to open up the space. Hardly us being clueless if we were still forcing teams to play on our terms.
mugshot Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 12 hours ago, Petchy said: In many ways he was! He was the one starting the attacks from deep by sprinting upfield 30-40 yards whenever he won the ball back! Chelsea reaping the rewards of that this season. This. The problem this season I see is that Kante broke up opposition attacks so often, then released early and followed the counter, it was the reason we broke at speed. This season we are not breaking down the opposition attacks enough, but even when we do Amartey and King are not releasing quickly and pushing forward allowing teams to sit back because they have time to get their positioning and shape. This is the biggest reason for our current situation. For the above Ndidi from what I have seen excites me and could be an alternative to what Kante gave us.
lgfualol Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 2 hours ago, sylofox said: From what I can find 16 games 6gls 5ass. Perhaps we need him back. Been dropped from their starting 11 in the last few games though
Dan Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 Mercury reporting he can't play against Middlesbrough because he's on holiday this is getting a little embarrassing.
foxes21 Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 13 hours ago, Petchy said: In many ways he was! He was the one starting the attacks from deep by sprinting upfield 30-40 yards whenever he won the ball back! Chelsea reaping the rewards of that this season. It was Drinkwater that got the ball and started attacks from deep. Kante was the one winning balls in the opposition half, allowing us to spring quick counters. Of course they'd switch roles, but more often then not Drinkwater was starting our attacks from deep. Either Mendy or Ndidi, will take the role that Drinkwater had last season & Danny will be pushed further forward.
dpjfox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 he cant play untilhe gets international clearance, a work permit and more importantly arrives in uk from holiday (by such time hopefully all sorted ), i mo it will be announced jan 1st as "subject to international clearance and work permit", and he could be available for fa cup game
AmarteyAndChill Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 6 minutes ago, foxes21 said: It was Drinkwater that got the ball and started attacks from deep. Kante was the one winning balls in the opposition half, allowing us to spring quick counters. Of course they'd switch roles, but more often then not Drinkwater was starting our attacks from deep. Either Mendy or Ndidi, will take the role that Drinkwater had last season & Danny will be pushed further forward. We can't start attacks from deep anymore as there is know room in behind. We lack creativity at the moment.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 I think he will initially just make us harder to beat which is after all where we need to stop this slump initially before hopefully pushing on and actually winning a few games
Dan Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 This "leave space in behind" is a bit too simple. Yes teams are more cautious about us but the point for me is we're making it too easy for teams to stop that space. What manager with a brain was going to leave space for Vardy after he'd got his eleven goals in a row? Yet we still found ways to make that space. It's the system that is the problem, the system and the fact we don't half the players now to play it.
foxes21 Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 5 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: This "leave space in behind" is a bit too simple. Yes teams are more cautious about us but the point for me is we're making it too easy for teams to stop that space. What manager with a brain was going to leave space for Vardy after he'd got his eleven goals in a row? Yet we still found ways to make that space. It's the system that is the problem, the system and the fact we don't half the players now to play it. To be honest Vardy hasn't tried to even run around in half the games this season. In some games he's been a statue, making it easy for these deep defences. Second half of last season, yeah teams sat back but we had Vardy & Okazaki buzzing around everywhere, pulling defences out of shape. That had nothing to do with Kante, we need the work rate of the front two back in form.
CosbehFox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: Mercury reporting he can't play against Middlesbrough because he's on holiday this is getting a little embarrassing. Unlikely to get a work permit in two days anyway
weller54 Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: Mercury reporting he can't play against Middlesbrough because he's on holiday this is getting a little embarrassing. Where's he going... Nottyash?
the fox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 6 hours ago, foxes21 said: It was Drinkwater that got the ball and started attacks from deep. Kante was the one winning balls in the opposition half, allowing us to spring quick counters. Of course they'd switch roles, but more often then not Drinkwater was starting our attacks from deep. Either Mendy or Ndidi, will take the role that Drinkwater had last season & Danny will be pushed further forward. All I can say is. Mahrez vs man city and mahrez's 3rd goal vs Swansea. It was all kantè. What Drinkwater did was wait for kantè to get the ball back. And then getting the ball from kantè to just give it back to him or play a long ball to vardy/mahrez. Drinkwater was not our box to box player, kantè was. Drinkwater was not our anchor, kantè was. Drinkwater is a jack of all trades. No disrespect to him. But, he had the honer to play with a player like kantè. We played 4-5-2 thanks to kantè because he was doing the work of 2 players
foxes21 Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 9 minutes ago, the fox said: All I can say is. Mahrez vs man city and mahrez's 3rd goal vs Swansea. It was all kantè. What Drinkwater did was wait for kantè to get the ball back. And then getting the ball from kantè to just give it back to him or play a long ball to vardy/mahrez. Drinkwater was not our box to box player, kantè was. Drinkwater was not our anchor, kantè was. Drinkwater is a jack of all trades. No disrespect to him. But, he had the honer to play with a player like kantè. We played 4-5-2 thenks to kantè because he was doing the work of 2 players you've just used two examples of Kante winning the ball high up the pitch and creating goal scoring opportunities, which was my exact point? I'm on about the second half of the season, when teams were giving us more of the ball and sitting deep, like they are this season. Drinkwater was the one collecting the ball from deep and spraying the passes. Kante would be pushing forwards, collecting second balls/intercepting in the opponents half. That should be Drinkwater's role this season. Influencing play further forward, knowing he has the protection of an out and out DM. But the DM's he's had to play with this season (Amartey, King) have been so sub par, Drinkwater has ended up having to do both roles. Hopefully Mendy or Ndidi provide a solid defensive foundation, to allow Drinkwater to influence the game going forwards.
Webbo Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 4 hours ago, weller54 said: Where's he going... Nottyash? You're showing your age there.
the fox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 2 minutes ago, foxes21 said: you've just used two examples of Kante winning the ball high up the pitch and creating goal scoring opportunities, which was my exact point? I'm on about the second half of the season, when teams were giving us more of the ball and sitting deep, like they are this season. Drinkwater was the one collecting the ball from deep and spraying the passes. Kante would be pushing forwards, collecting second balls/intercepting in the opponents half. That should be Drinkwater's role this season. Influencing play further forward, knowing he has the protection of an out and out DM. But the DM's he's had to play with this season (Amartey, King) have been so sub par, Drinkwater has ended up having to do both roles. Hopefully Mendy or Ndidi provide a solid defensive foundation, to allow Drinkwater to influence the game going forwards. And that is my point. Drinkwater is a good passer but he doesn't have the elite rang and vision to open the pitch with just one pass. Most of the time he gets the ball. And instead of making the fast pass. He puts his head down and by that killing half of our counter attacks. If you watched basketball games you would notes how a ball carrier is important. By carrying the ball from your half to the other team's half with pace you would force the opposition's defense to collapse on it self. Every one is out of position and you are now the center of attention. You will become a black hole sucking every one in. Again, watch the Swansea goal. Drinkwater is good, like very very good. But I think he should take some of the blame because he is part of the reason the 4-4-2 is not working any more
Micky Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 There is not much you tube footage on him. Has anyone found anything particularly good?
the fox Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 3 hours ago, Micky said: There is not much you tube footage on him. Has anyone found anything particularly good? He doesn't think the ball is a bomb. That's a good start. He is not afraid to move forward. He seems like amartey with better shooting and awareness but the thing that caught my eyes is his long passing. He seems like he can switch the play with ease.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 30 December 2016 Posted 30 December 2016 31 minutes ago, the fox said: He doesn't think the ball is a bomb. That's a good start. He is not afraid to move forward. He seems like amartey with better shooting and awareness but the thing that caught my eyes is his long passing. He seems like he can switch the play with ease. And better tackling!!!
TJB-fox Posted 31 December 2016 Posted 31 December 2016 SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT KANTE, HES LEFT. HE PLAYS FOR CHELSEA NOT LEICESTER.
VLC86 Posted 31 December 2016 Posted 31 December 2016 2 hours ago, TJB-fox said: SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT KANTE, HES LEFT. HE PLAYS FOR CHELSEA NOT LEICESTER. The words you type when you miss Kante but keep telling yourself Amartey has potential.
sylofox Posted 31 December 2016 Posted 31 December 2016 15 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Mercury reporting he can't play against Middlesbrough because he's on holiday this is getting a little embarrassing. pointless story really. To play in a weekend fixture ie sat sun or Monday the player has to be registered Friday. With the window opening Sunday and Monday a bank holiday I don't expect any signings to be cleared to play before Wednesday. Also with Ndidi we have the small matter of a work permit before he can play.
Babylon Posted 31 December 2016 Posted 31 December 2016 18 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: This "leave space in behind" is a bit too simple. Yes teams are more cautious about us but the point for me is we're making it too easy for teams to stop that space. What manager with a brain was going to leave space for Vardy after he'd got his eleven goals in a row? Yet we still found ways to make that space. It's the system that is the problem, the system and the fact we don't half the players now to play it. But we started to struggle and scrape by from the Norwich game onwards. It was plainly obvious what was coming this season with or without Kante the second teams decided to change how they played us. In so many of those games we were creating little and converting one of the few chances we had, whilst the oppo was missing theirs (some good ones at that). Losing Kante then compounded that problem.
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