Steve Walsh Snr.

[HighPeakFox]

And it also reminds us that we have a manager who doesn't slag anyone in public.

[Guest Danny Clender]

2 hours ago, katieakita said:

By all accounts he got some stick aimed at him yesterday Why? I suppose you could say he signed a new contract then moved on very quickly but if you were offered a job where you could relocate to be near your roots and family a higher position and probably a pay rise and golden hello as you head towards retirement would you say no?

 

The guy had a massive input in taking us from Championship nearly men into Premier league winners, look at the value of the squad inherited by NP on his return which with wages was probably negative and compare it to the  current squads value and he has been part of something truly miraculous in sporting terms. Also does his name actually help that much now with scouting because as soon as he is linked with a player do you really think the clubs and agents of these players are not suddenly contacting any potential suitors and pointing out their players have got to be good because Walshy Snr has scouted them and then the money and wages start shooting up. Cannot believe he was solely responsible for our scouting network and that there would not be a big infrastructure in place to scout players over quite some time going forward. If i ever met the guy I would shake his hand thank him for giving me  happy memories i will never forget and buy him a drink. Perhaps i am old fashioned but the guy deserves our greatest respect after helping create something that was so so special so why boo him?

Nice post.

Sadly I think its a sign of the times that Directors of Football are sliding into the celebrity side of football. In reality, I'm sure that they actually do is completely dull, but the dissection of football, we all operate today, means we all know his name. One day I imagine we'll be celebrating Kit Persons. 

[surrifox]

Walsh was drawing criticism from the new owners in the summer for missing out on targets and failing to strengthen . If he doesn't get it sorted in this window it will probably be his last chance given the apparent impatience of the club 

[Ted Maul]

Everton have certainly got ideas above their station since the takeover. Walsh has always had a bit of an understated approach to signings, and I think Everton are expecting more. Wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't work out for him there.

[Zola]

1 hour ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

That's scandalous imo. Whenever Walsh was here under Nige or Claudio the manager would always take responsibility when things aren't going well and point out out its a team effort behind the scenes when it was. For Koeman to call people out when they don't have a platform to defend themselves every week like he does is a sly move. Something I am grateful for when supporting Leicester over the last few years is that the manager has been always been a nice bloke and not a cvnt like Koeman 

Koeman have probably last word on players and its up to others like Steve to get them on board. If he mentioned Steve, then Steve is  main responsible party..

 

CR have final word on players ..its short interview and answer is at the end.. ...http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04mv9rg

 

But iI think "cabbage" was not his request, and maybe thats reason why he doesn't plays him..CR did same in past at Roma, Inter etc..and got in conflict with board, sometimes even players..

Also when Cambiasso departed, CR did not want to change system so he had replacement in Inler, but CR realised his mistake and changed system with Kante. 

 

 

[ealingfox]

Everton are generally quite a deluded and embarrassing outfit these days. Can't stand them tbh. I was genuinely cringing reading some of the Liverpool Echo write-ups after the game yesterday. Fair enough they were favourites for yesterday's game, but the disappointment and near shock at the fact that they wouldn't be winning a trophy this year was hilarious. I'd laugh loudly at any Everton fan who had anything close to the expectation of winning a trophy at the start of the season. They've not won anything for over 20 years and have been irrelevant for most of that time.

 

All that aside that infamous high-pitched whinge that emits loudly from the home stands after every single refereeing decisions is up there with the most thoroughly detestable things in English football.

[bovril]

2 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

Everton fans are complete ****** and think they should be competing with the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea ect. for signings so it's difficult for Walshy to get a gem in. Plus their owner seems like a complete fraud and he can't even compete to sign dog arse players like Sissoko. Walsh should have stayed here where he is trusted to bring in a player he thinks will develop.

I've always found Everton fans to be some of the most unlikable in England.

[Fox92]

**** me, Everton got taken over, installed new management and brought in new staff. It's not going to take a month to get sorted. 

 

They'll get it right. Walsh has a proven record at plenty of clubs - here, Hull, Newcastle, Chelsea - and Koeman is a good manager but instant success was never going to happen with the amount of changes.

[Countryfox]

 

Would love to know exactly why Walshie left as I think there is a lot more to it ....     And CR just maybe a major part of that.  Wanting to be nearer his roots/family doesn't really wash with me.   Also, I think the DOF role looked like a fantastic way out and he saw it as double whammy ...   Get away and move up ...    Unfortunately he may have bitten off more than he can chew and be slightly out of his depth ....   To me he is an old school top scout of the highest order and I'm afraid he may now come unstuck.   At the very least he is way out of his comfort zone but I hope he can somehow sort it out cus for me he is part of our folklore.  Will always have a lot of respect for the man and think most people agree.

[AyewJoking]

bit strange why he left but whatever, remember at one point it seemed kante had made a mistake joining chelsea but that sooned worked itself out.

 

everton havent had overnight success but thats their business,

 

close thread. (always wanted to say/type that)

[SheppyFox]

Koeman will get him sacked soon

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, Ted Maul said:

Everton have certainly got ideas above their station since the takeover. Walsh has always had a bit of an understated approach to signings, and I think Everton are expecting more. Wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't work out for him there.

He's also not a director of football, they offer someone a bigger say to prise them away. Then moan when he doesn't hit the ground running in a job he's never done... only got themselves to blame.

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

**** me, Everton got taken over, installed new management and brought in new staff. It's not going to take a month to get sorted. 

 

They'll get it right. Walsh has a proven record at plenty of clubs - here, Hull, Newcastle, Chelsea - and Koeman is a good manager but instant success was never going to happen with the amount of changes.

Newcastle fans think he's shit after the players they signed when he was there.

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Newcastle fans think he's shit after the players they signed when he was there.

Well I'm sure they know more than the man who scouted Zola, Drogba, Kante, Vardy and Mahrez.

[Babylon]

Just now, Fox92 said:

Well I'm sure they know more than the man who scouted Zola, Drogba, Kante, Vardy and Mahrez.

Just so you know, none of them signed for Newcastle. Their opinion is based on what happened there and they signed stinkers.

 

Also, Zola and Drogba were household names already. It's a bit like signing Ronaldo and claiming credit for scouting him.

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Just so you know, none of them signed for Newcastle. Their opinion is based on what happened there and they signed stinkers.

 

Also, Zola and Drogba were household names already. It's a bit like signing Ronaldo and claiming credit for scouting him.

I didn't really know why you brought up Newcastle or what you're trying to prove. We're talking about a man that is highly rated and has found some good players. You can't expect Everton to turn everything around in one season given all the changes they went through in the summer.

 

[crazyleicester]

Im sure Walsh got better with age and experience. Despite people talking about his previous record, you have to judge him on his more recent deals and Mahrez and Vardy alone turned 1.5m into a possible 70-80m. For those deals alone he deserves full credit. Im sure we also under estimate what he bought to the training pitch for us as him and Beags Im sure would bounce of each other. Reading Vardys autobiography it seems he had quite a decent input there especially on the psychological stuff and more local type understanding of the players.

 

I prefer we still had him but he has gone. Whether or not he succeeds at Everton is nothing to do with us but Id still invite him back if he was sacked tomorrow. 

[Sionnach gorm]

3 hours ago, norwichfox said:

time to get back on topic?.....Steve Walsh Snr according to the header. He did great work for us and found some major successes who had a great bearing on the destination of the Premier League Champions Trophy last season. I was sorry to see him go, I believe his motives for moving were honourable, would welcome him back with open arms, but not too sure how his relationship with CR would work out over a period of time.

Generally speaking I think they would have a good relationship.  I've never read of Ranieri ever blaming his back room staff or getting into arguments with them.  He's always taken responsibility for a loss...strangely he's never called out a player during a loss (publicly of course).

[Sionnach gorm]

15 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Just so you know, none of them signed for Newcastle. Their opinion is based on what happened there and they signed stinkers.

 

Also, Zola and Drogba were household names already. It's a bit like signing Ronaldo and claiming credit for scouting him.

Agreed.  In fact Zola was brought in directly, and on the insistence, of Ruud Gullit.  Gullit was at the time recently appointed player manager.  He was a relative unknown to many in England at the time, but Gullit, having played against him thought he was the most underrated player in the Serie A...oddly enough he was probably right.

 

(on a side note RG also brought in Gianluca Vialli and Roberto Di Matteo to Chelsea)

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Personally I think people massively overplay the role Steve Walsh had here.

 

He wasnt the only scout and he didnt get every signing right.

 

IMO he's no better or worse than any other head scout we've ever had here.

[Sharpe's Fox]

12 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Personally I think people massively overplay the role Steve Walsh had here.

 

He wasnt the only scout and he didnt get every signing right.

 

IMO he's no better or worse than any other head scout we've ever had here.

[ian_marshall]

The problem Everton have is that Moshiri has come on board looking to get the fans onside very quickly by making bold statements of intent publicly without showing any real conviction. It seems the Everton fans have bought into his statements big time, and all I've heard them banging on about is how much money they now have and how they expect to break into the top 4 within the next 2 seasons as though they are the only team in the league with a billionaire owner. Despite all the talk, Everton for whatever reason whether it be Walsh refusing to push the boat out or Moshiri unhappy to fund big money transfers keep falling short financially when pursuing their targets which is clearly annoying Koeman who was no doubt promised a big budget when he took the job on.

 

Sadly for Walsh I can't see him lasting long at Everton. I think Moshiri brought him in thinking he needed to build a team of top class players, saw the excellent job that Walsh and the scouting team were doing at Leicester, then thought imagine what results Walsh could deliver on a larger budget. Unfortunately for Moshiri what he didn't take into consideration is that philosophy that makes Walsh so successful is the complete antithesis of his own vision for the club.

 

We know from our own experience of Walsh that he's the best in the business for spotting a diamond in the rough, but now Moshiri's sold the Everton fans the dream, he and his management team need to be seen to be delivering success or showing signs of progression in terms of delivering household names. If Walsh is to survive he has no choice but to change his outlook on the types of player's that he likes to recruit otherwise he'll simply end up being the fall guy for Everton's lack of success. 

[fuchsntf]

5 hours ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said:

Not sure many would class Pearson as a nice bloke regardless of everything he did for us!

I am sure the poster, meant he Pearson didnt attack his staff on TV, or show any blame was theirs...

 

Anyway he was a nice fellow, just had problems with wild dogs, wayward ignorant fans, and Ostriches

Camouflaged as journalists plus Players whos name begin with Mc, and end in Arthur.

He just seems, to give them the eye, likes to strangle Mc-ostriches, then send them on their way, with a

Characteristic FOD. Hes just not a very good porn-director, he gets somewhat Thaied up..

[Ashley]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Just so you know, none of them signed for Newcastle. Their opinion is based on what happened there and they signed stinkers.

 

Also, Zola and Drogba were household names already. It's a bit like signing Ronaldo and claiming credit for scouting him.

Drogba was a house hold name before Chelsea really?

[foxes21]

Have to say the signings Everton have made this season are not typical Walsh signings, bar Gueye. They aren't utilising Walsh's talent (spotting rough diamonds), which is their own mistake. Instead they are trying to splash the cash on quite frankly, mediocre players. Walsh could get twice the player of Depay, for half the price if he was in charge of their scouting & not DOF.