Gaston Ramirez

[Max Power]

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

That's because the team is loaded with defensive players, defensive full backs, defensive midfielders a plenty and a couple of creative players, who are so isolated up front the ball comes straight back anyway. We need a change in how we play, I fear swapping one creative player for another isn't going to do anything.

All those defensive players and we still look like shipping goals against anyone and everyone. 

 

We are so bad 

[Stevosevic]

Is there a reason why people suddenly think this is happening?

[desertfox2]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

That's because the team is loaded with defensive players, defensive full backs, defensive midfielders a plenty and a couple of creative players, who are so isolated up front the ball comes straight back anyway. We need a change in how we play, I fear swapping one creative player for another isn't going to do anything.

 

Kind of Ironic that for such a defensive side we have shipped 6 goals in 2 games. I'm not actually disagreeing with you that we are set up too defensively. It could just be because we are not really a threat at the other end of the pitch right now we get penned in at our end. 2 of our goal threats are coming back from AFCON.1 wants to leave for the prem equivalent of a box of Spanish Oranges, Okazaki doesn't score enough, Drinkwater doesn't score enough, nor do any of our midfielders apart from Mahrez for that matter. We are too easy to nullify. Ramirez may just be what we need. 

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

All those defensive players and we still look like shipping goals against anyone and everyone. 

 

We are so bad 

If we'd actually stuck with one formation we might have actually tightened up, like we looked like we were after going 433 originally.... then going to 3 at the back then a diamond in the middle. Nobody has a clue what they are doing. 4 different formations in about as many weeks.

[Ric Flair]

12 minutes ago, Babylon said:

That's because the team is loaded with defensive players, defensive full backs, defensive midfielders a plenty and a couple of creative players, who are so isolated up front the ball comes straight back anyway. We need a change in how we play, I fear swapping one creative player for another isn't going to do anything.

Yes, there not only needs to be more creative players in the side but more balance as well. We've had a lot of attack minded players in our starting line ups in the first part of the season and still barely troubled the opposition but they troubled us no end.

[Max Power]

Weird that the only genuine 4-3-3 we've played was a win away to Everton in the cup and we haven't seen it since? 

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

If we'd actually stuck with one formation we might have actually tightened up, like we looked like we were after going 433 originally.... then going to 3 at the back then a diamond in the middle. Nobody has a clue what they are doing. 4 different formations in about as many weeks.

4-4-2 for 18 games? I see the Champions League distraction excuses have stopped now as well. We're all over the place and it doesn't matter what formation we play. Ranieri needs to go back to basics and get all areas of his side to be putting in maximum effort and creating a blend again. We can't defend nor can we create and attack, it's heinous.

[Jazzy_Jeff]

Earlier in the season teams knew that if they stuck 2/3 men on Mahrez no-one else would be able to create anything and we'd end up trying the ball over the top.

 

Ramirez would give us another option.

[st albans fox]

8 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Is there a reason why people suddenly think this is happening?

Boredom ?

[lgfualol]

I give him 10 minutes into his debut until we see "Why did we spend x on Ramirez when we have [insert under-performing player] that can play there"

[Nick]

So this is happening?

 

Good.

[foxes21]

15 minutes ago, Max Power said:

All those defensive players and we still look like shipping goals against anyone and everyone. 

 

We are so bad 

we don't defend from the front, or press teams to force them wide anymore. We need to start doing that.

[Koke]

How much money are we talking about? £15m?

[Nick]

5 minutes ago, Koke said:

How much money are we talking about? £15m?

No £18 million 

 

Sorry wrong thread.

[Koke]

2 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

No £18 million 

 

Sorry wrong thread.

 

 

£18m is a bigger myth than Leon Crncic.

[Guest CityFan 06]

He's described as an attacking midfielder, and that's exactly what we're missing at the moment. Ndidi, Amartey and Mendy are capable enough to sure things up in the midfield, but once they offer that protection, we're too one dimensional going forward. Ramirez would offer something different to that. 

 

You can just tell in games we are missing that man in the CAM role. Could be a very shrewd signing. 

[desertfox2]

Makes the 30m budget sound about spot on. 15m for Ndidi 15m for Ramirez. Schlupp and Hernandez transfer fees for a defender hopefully.... 

[desertfox2]

 

[Guest Danny Clender]

3 minutes ago, desertfox2 said:

Makes the 30m budget sound about spot on. 15m for Ndidi 15m for Ramirez. Schlupp and Hernandez transfer fees for a defender hopefully.... 

And if we get 1.7 for Ulloa, we could buy a promising 14 year old academy striker/winger for the future. 

[Babylon]

31 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

4-4-2 for 18 games? I see the Champions League distraction excuses have stopped now as well. We're all over the place and it doesn't matter what formation we play. Ranieri needs to go back to basics and get all areas of his side to be putting in maximum effort and creating a blend again. We can't defend nor can we create and attack, it's heinous.

I meant in general us sticking to 433 for a bit, general feeling seemed to be another man in the middle would give us that extra solidity. I don't understand why we didn't give it a real chance, by changing it around too much it's caused confusion and players not knowing where they are meant to be.

[Koke]

I hope he has improved since his Southampton days because Saints fans don't particularly rate him. I hope its one of those where a club switch has improved h I m. 

 

£15m for a player that Southampton let go on a free is quite something though. 

 

And yes inb4 "but we won the league with an Aston Villa reject".

[AKCJ]

I don't particularly rate him but he'll do a job in a position we're utterly, utterly desperate.

 

Okazaki doesn't work with Slimani. a front 4 of Albrighton, Mahrez, Ramirez and Slim will do well and will get goals.

[SecretPro]

Have we actually signed him then?

[desertfox2]

1 minute ago, Koke said:

I hope he has improved since his Southampton days because Saints fans don't particularly rate him. I hope its one of those where a club switch has improved h I m. 

 

£15m for a player that Southampton let go on a free is quite something though. 

 

And yes inb4 "but we won the league with an Aston Villa reject".

 

Southampton signed him from Bologna for 12m as a 21-year-old though. 1st season 26 games 5 goals 2nd season 22 games 3 goals then fell out of favour

[Ric Flair]

6 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I meant in general us sticking to 433 for a bit, general feeling seemed to be another man in the middle would give us that extra solidity. I don't understand why we didn't give it a real chance, by changing it around too much it's caused confusion and players not knowing where they are meant to be.

Oh yeah, I get you totally. I think 4-3-3 is the way forward if we aren't going to play attacking full backs. Vardy and Slimani together doesn't work and we need width but with an extra body in the centre of midfield.