StanSP Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 Transfer policy. Poor replacement/improvement of players. Lack of motivation. Think Claudio has lost the dressing room. No strategy or clear gameplan. Teams find it way too easy to set up against us. Teams find it way too easy to score against us. Togetherness, 'band of brothers' feel has disappeared. Players in a new position in terms of 'Champions' pressure. Not a big enough squad to deal with CL and Premier League. Not enough players seem to give a fvck any more. Just a few things.
lifted*fox Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 Just now, yorkie1999 said: Yes, but there's also sportsmen that achieve their goal in life and walk away. Nico rosberg. Yes, but these players didn't choose to walk away - they chose to accept massive ****ing contracts and then take the piss by not playing week in, week out. Sorry yorkie but your argument is null and void.
Monsell1976 Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 I'm with graham souness, they think they are better players than they actually are, the desire has gone, and they don't give 100% every game, because the don't think they have to, to good for that now.
Fox92 Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 2 minutes ago, daz*dsb said: Not an acceptable attitude imo. There are thousands of sportsmen and women who achieve the highest accolades in their professions OVER AND OVER again. Olympians with multiple gold medals over multiple events, etc. What is the difference with this bunch of shit-house cvnts? Attitude? Players win trophies over and over again but they aren't rewarded with anything they want... You rekon the likes of Ferguson and Clough turned round and gave their players anything they wanted after winning something? No, they'd want them to win it again.
Blizzard Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 Have the other PL teams upped their games and recruited world class players? We have stood still. Its psychological, they surpassed themselves last season. Everyone knows lcfc will never achieve such dizzy heights again. If you think you will never achieve success like that again, you wont replicate it. Just remember they won the PL by a string of sustained 1 nil performances. I disagree tho, I thought they worked hard today, they just were not good enough. The confidence and belief has gone.
Happy Fox Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 Steve Walsh /Eva Caneiro bust up something shitty happened and the players don't seem to show Ranieri the respect he deserves, god knows.
Kitchandro Posted 22 January 2017 Author Posted 22 January 2017 3 minutes ago, Jonezy said: It is everything. It is not a single thing; it is a combination of a lot of things. Last season we had all the football karma in the world and now absolutely nothing will work for us. But I'm not talking about the things that aren't going for us. This is about why WE are not trying our best. The individual players. I realise that everything is wrong right now but there is nothing out there that can excuse a lack of effort. And when it's across the board there should be an inquest as to why. (Besides I disagree about getting all the positive 'karma' in the world last season, West Ham at home we were subject to some terrible refereeing and guess what, we still fought back to draw)
casablancas Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 What we gonna do when Kasper and drinky walk? Kasper is the only lad to display anything close to desire. Drinky is the only player we have that can create. I know he's not playing well but ... How do we replace these lads?
Kitchandro Posted 22 January 2017 Author Posted 22 January 2017 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Transfer policy. Poor replacement/improvement of players. Lack of motivation. Think Claudio has lost the dressing room. No strategy or clear gameplan. Teams find it way too easy to set up against us. Teams find it way too easy to score against us. Togetherness, 'band of brothers' feel has disappeared. Players in a new position in terms of 'Champions' pressure. Not a big enough squad to deal with CL and Premier League. Not enough players seem to give a fvck any more. Just a few things. I think a lot of people are just reading the title of the thread and not the actual post.
HankMarvin Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: Attitude? Players win trophies over and over again but they aren't rewarded with anything they want... You rekon the likes of Ferguson and Clough turned round and gave their players anything they wanted after winning something? No, they'd want them to win it again. People saying its because of winning the league, we are not asking for the same levels of intensity but show us something. There is playing poorly and trying and there is just not giving a ****
yorkie1999 Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 1 minute ago, Kitchandro said: I think a lot of people are just reading the title of the thread and not the actual post. Well that's your fault then init
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 3 minutes ago, foxy boxing said: It is a combination of things, we have been found out tactically, we have recruited poorly and our star players Vardy and Mahrez have not performed to the standards of last season while Huth and Morgan it is a season too far and are being constantly exposed with the player that was protecting them sold. Plus we have concentrated so much on the Champions league. claudio for some reason just hasn't been able to motivate the players All of this. I feel collectively this group has had its day. It's a question of how we transition to a new squad/team whilst avoiding relegation. And of course who gets their p45s
JamesWelshFox Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 I wouldn't swap winning the league last season for anything, we had our opportunity and took it, but if I was being objective it was too much too soon for a club that said it was trying to build something. All of a sudden, we have to pay players lots of money to keep them, we believed we really were that good, we suddenly think we can compete in the Champions League, and that we should be buying lots of big name players. What we needed to have done in the summer was buy solid if unexciting premier league proven players. But how many of us would have settled for that, honestly ? We all got carried away and we may pay the price for it this season - but I still wouldn't swap last season for it, last season will always be in the history books.
Guest Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 1 minute ago, casablancas said: What we gonna do when Kasper and drinky walk? Kasper is the only lad to display anything close to desire. Drinky is the only player we have that can create. I know he's not playing well but ... How do we replace these lads?
EnglishOxide Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 What we did last season was unprecedented. It's not that far fetched to say that the players are not mentally all there. A lot of them aren't born winners in the Roy Keane mould. A lot of them are content with their lot on a subconscious level having achieved more than they expected. I think in some cases this season it's not a lack of effort or caring (look at the Stoke game). It's a lack of hunger and motivation, particularly for players coming to the end of their careers in our defence. Only way Claudio can address that is recruitment.
An Away Move Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 I don't think it is Claudio's fault. He stayed with 4-4-2. Didn't work. Changed the formation. Didn't work. He's not the type of guy to lose a dressing room IMO. I'm sure he can kick ass as well as be Mr Genial. I think the players need to take a look at themselves. Last year they were hungry like wolves. This year they are running around with full bellies. Last season they got everything they ever desired. How do you motivate journeymen who beat the house and won the jackpot already?
SpacedX Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 13 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: If you climbed Mount Everest would you want to do it again? Perhaps not, but no excuse to still be high on that rarified air at the top...(or hippy crack come to that).
st albans fox Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 It's mental once they find themselves in the bottom three (by the end of Feb), there should be a reaction to reality. But it wont be that easy
SheppyFox Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 15 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: If you climbed Mount Everest would you want to do it again? Proper mountain climbers do it multiple times!
MattCan Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 I don't believe in this lack of motivation thing. I would rather say it's perpetual frustration because they are have discovered or are discovering their own limitations.
ithuriel Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 Reminded of Chelsea last season before they sacked the special one.
polarbear Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 I'm a Ranieri supporter but he has to take some blame at the start of the season for his comments: 'we have no chance of retaining the league' straightaway players lose 10% intensity across games and the malaise just carries on
Tuna Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 I think in any job unless you are pushed and challenged, you'll go stale. I think the players needed to be pushed by quality additions last summer that would have made them raise their game. We should have pursued a few high profile players. May not have got them but at least we would have showed intent, some of the players like Defour and Chambers who went to promoted teams no less would have added to what we have. Even a signing like Defoe who we would have laughed at last summer would have made Vardy think twice about slacking. Instead we bought a load of nobodys and squad players, consequently the likes of Morgan and Simpson have no real competition and play week in week out regardless. Tactically, we've been found out. Our approach no longer works and the players are frustrated as they are being asked to do a job they can't do.
Babylon Posted 22 January 2017 Posted 22 January 2017 11 minutes ago, SydenhamFox said: I don't think it is Claudio's fault. He stayed with 4-4-2. Didn't work. Changed the formation. Didn't work. He's not the type of guy to lose a dressing room IMO. I'm sure he can kick ass as well as be Mr Genial. I think the players need to take a look at themselves. Last year they were hungry like wolves. This year they are running around with full bellies. Last season they got everything they ever desired. How do you motivate journeymen who beat the house and won the jackpot already? He's changed formation 4 times, why not stick with 433 when it wasn't actually too horrendous.
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