The media brainwashing fans

[ZeGuy]

10 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

I'll tell you one thing- it's going to be sweet if we stay up. 

Nah, there'll be always a smart ass (not only in the medias but in this forum) to tell you that if you stayed up with X there is no way you'd got relegated with Claudio. You can't win with these guys. 

[Max Wall]

4 minutes ago, FoxyPalace.com said:

Ahh the same pundits that laughed and mocked when Ranieri was unveiled.

 

Any other club would have done the same.

 

Chelsea - Mourinho

 

Man City - Mancini

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chelsea - Di Matteo

M Utd - Van Gaal

 

The list goes on.

 

The condescending tone throughout the coverage boils the blood, let's hope it has the same effect on the players. If this coverage doesn't get a reaction from them, nothing and no one will.

[Vardinio'sCat]

9 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

These days, there is so much information available, it's reached the point where you simply don't know who, or what, to believe. There is an argument and a counter argument for everything. White can be pretty much made black and black can be pretty much made white, with the right argument or the right lawyer.

This forum, in my opinion, epitomizes this. Opinion, counter opinion swings back and forth like a pendulum or a metronome.

What you tend to do is to seive out the wheat from the chaff. For example, I'll never listen to or believe Paul fookin Merson. Average player, turned pundit, who seems to thrive on sensationalizing everything and talking an awful lot of bollox.

What I won't do though is to ignore information, like it never existed. There is usually no smoke without fire and it's clear that something must have gone on between Claudio, the staff and the players this season. We'll probably never know the full facts, but in my own mind, I've developed a mental picture of what I think has happened.

And that's really all you can do in the absence of hard facts.

Ran out of likes, but this is so true.

 

I think now that the information we receive can be tailored to manipulate us so easily, the situation will only get worse. Top tip, don't get your news solely from facebook. I use news aggregator for a more reasonable overview of the media.

 

The real story will come out in time, but you can see it emerging already, from the scraps we are getting.

[Hammo]

3 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

If I feed you one sided arguments about your own football club, I won't get anywhere.

 

And brainwashing isn't being feed one-sided arguments. Brainwashing is crippling psychological manipulation.

 

And you accuse the media of sensationalism?

Come again

[Foxxed]

5 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Ah cool, You not seen them tossers outside the training ground this morning then?

You think they are there to brainwash, or get a scrape of news for their rag? I mean, brainwashing? For real?

 

Just because people disagree with you, it does not mean they have been brainwashed: it means you've failed to convince them.

 

Unless, of course, they have undergone"an impairment of autonomy, an inability to think independently, and a disruption of beliefs and affiliations. In this context, brainwashing refers to the involuntary reeducation of basic beliefs and values" Or maybe you just disagree with them.

[Ted Maul]

8 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Nah, there'll be always a smart ass (not only in the medias but in this forum) to tell you that if you stayed up with X there is no way you'd got relegated with Claudio. You can't win with these guys. 

Those people will be upset that we stayed up, just leave them to it.

[VLC86]

5 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

You think they are there to brainwash, or get a scrape of news for their rag? I mean, brainwashing? For real?

 

Just because people disagree with you, it does not mean they have been brainwashed: it means you've failed to convince them.

 

Unless, of course, they have undergone"an impairment of autonomy, an inability to think independently, and a disruption of beliefs and affiliations. In this context, brainwashing refers to the involuntary reeducation of basic beliefs and values" Or maybe you just disagree with them.

Fake news mate the lot of them are out to brainwash us. So much so that if we go down I will shrug my shoulders and say Well we are a yoyo club.

[Callabinho]

Just watching the BT sports score thing.

 

Bunch of clueless wankers the lot of them.

 

Savage - The owners have been weak, soulless and are a disgrace.

 

Sutton - Shakespeare is slimy and has stabbed Ranieri in the front.

 

Ince - Entirely the players fault, and they are a bang average team. 

 

Saunders - Players are to blame, need to look at themselves.

 

Kevin Campbell - Players are to blame...

 

 

Suttons comment really raged me.....Accusing Shakey of being Slimy and Stabbing him in the front?

 

What about overseeing £80m spent on shit, playing wank stains like Musa ahead of Grey, falling out with staff member over studs and refusing to switch from his horribly negative tactics.

 

The media have ****ed us over in this, I just hope we shit all over Liverpool with cards bagging a hat-trick to shit the ***** up.

 

Claudio was sacked because this season we've been shit, absolutely unbelievable shit. He's the manager and has failed to grip the situation, therefore he goes end of. Silly wankers making comments about our club and owners like that of the back of some bullshit red header front pages. 

[Corky]

They can bang on about the lost soul of football and it being a ruthless business but they've helped to create it. Each week there is a discussion about the struggling teams and if their managers' are under pressure and who could replace them. We're no different. You might want to live in the world where everything is fine and dandy and we'll all roll along nicely but the reality is very different.

 

Let's look at the facts of this season- 18 defeats in all competitions, no goals in six league games, no away win for 15 league games (13 this season), four defeats in seven home league games, 17th place with 21 points from 25 games. Heavily reported player unrest. Teams below improving to make our position worse.

 

As I've said before, you can't have it both ways- pointing out how bad we are then wondering why people complain. And this natural level stuff is just bollocks- just because you are a struggler doesn't mean you sit there, content and letting things drift. Sunderland, for example, have had relegation battles in 11 of their last 13 top flight seasons, that is their recent natural level. They've had as many Premier League relegations as us and they still complain, still sack their managers and hope for better. Why should we be any different?

[Guest Col city fan]

19 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

I don't believe you

See!

 

[RobHawk]

Lets be honest, they have their agenda, we've killed the football fairytale and will be damned to hell for doing so. What alot of people forget is that fairytales aren't real - but they aren't interested in reported that

[Jay]

The media are spouting some absolute nonsense wth the emphasis on you're Leicester city you should be happy being relegation fodder.

 

we may well be in the bottom 3 by 5pm this evening and in theory could even be bottom of the league and that simply is not good enough.

 

yes last season was the stuff of dreams but this season has been an embarassment.

 

if you look at it from a sentimental view point then yes it is terrible but from a football sense it can be more than justified.

[Max Wall]

3 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

See!

 

Call Alanis Morissette immediately.

[norwichfox]

22 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

And now it's 'Leicester need Pearson'  he's been on the buggle again hasn't he?

Guarantees them another few day headlines and tales of their disgust at the owners previous treatment of him and his son....Murdoch media scum.

[Hammo]

I was in Ashby Tesco this morning and a woman stopping at the newspapers said to her partner on picking up some tabloid with a picture of a distraught Claudio and a big tearjerker headline - "just shocking what's happened to that Ranneri (sic). Really disgusting".

 

I wonder if she was aware of our recent disastrous form or even our perilous position in the table. I might be wrong but I somehow doubt it (alas I didn't have the courage to ask her).

 

This will be happening all over the land and beyond. It's called media brainwashing.

[Bunyip]

What about that two faced idiot Lineker. Now slagging the owners and the club off over the loss of his dear friend Claudio.  Bloody short memory he's got, He was the first to come out and sneer at Ranieri's appointment. I wish he would just shut his embarrassing gob for a change.

[eaststand68]

OFCOM  complain these companies care about share price so that's where you hit them

 

[Corky]

14 minutes ago, Callabinho said:

Savage - The owners have been weak, soulless and are a disgrace.

The owners have been weak? The same owners who stayed strong in the face of much criticism when Pearson was struggling in 2012/13, kept him during an appalling run and after a play-off defeat after automatic promotion was well within our grasp? The same owners who kept Pearson during an appalling run in 2014/15 in the face of much criticism about him and his antics? The same owners who appointed Ranieri to almost total mockery and jeering from the same media who now believe it's the biggest sin ever committed in football to remove him?

 

No doubt he'll be spewing this crap on Five Live later (how has he got so many media roles?), hopefully someone can put him right.

[yorkie1999]

1 hour ago, Koke said:

Headlines like these don't help either. Rob Tanner said yesterday he didn't believe this occurred and he's close to the club. Non LCFC fans latch on to this. 

 

 

Should be held accountable for that statement and sued if found not to be true, make him think twice about it although he's covered himself by saying it's the gossip which effectively means someone else is saying that. 

 To me it's the emotions the press are playing on and are combining two questions into one to get the desired answer.  

1 should Claudio have been sacked. No is the answer because he was brilliant for this club last season

2 should Claudio have been sacked. Yes is the answer because as a manager he was  useless this season.

[yorkie1999]

22 minutes ago, Corky said:

The owners have been weak? The same owners who stayed strong in the face of much criticism when Pearson was struggling in 2012/13, kept him during an appalling run and after a play-off defeat after automatic promotion was well within our grasp? The same owners who kept Pearson during an appalling run in 2014/15 in the face of much criticism about him and his antics? The same owners who appointed Ranieri to almost total mockery and jeering from the same media who now believe it's the biggest sin ever committed in football to remove him?

 

No doubt he'll be spewing this crap on Five Live later (how has he got so many media roles?), hopefully someone can put him right.

Just phone him and question why he bought 7 pairs of trainers and made a kid carry them out to his car while he stood and watched

[Guest bss9401]

Normally the media and so called pundits don't give a toss about us. Last year everyone loved us. Today everyone hates us. Next year no one will give a toss about us again. That how it'll always be if you're not one of the golden few clubs. I would like to see a few clever, ex lower league players as pundits rather than the golden few who share out the jobs for the boys.

[Koke]

9 minutes ago, bss9401 said:

Normally the media and so called pundits don't give a toss about us. Last year everyone loved us. Today everyone hates us. Next year no one will give a toss about us again. That how it'll always be if you're not one of the golden few clubs. I would like to see a few clever, ex lower league players as pundits rather than the golden few who share out the jobs for the boys.

 

Always wondered why 90% of pundits are made up of former top 6 players.

 

You won't see an ex Birmingham City pundit for example. 

[Kitchandro]

I agree with the sentiment about the media but....

 

It's not really important whether they 'stabbed him in the back' by telling the owners they'd lost faith in him, which has widely reported and is very plausible.

 

The fact is they have got him sacked with their performances this season and specifically by downing tools rather than giving it their all.

 

Whether this was intentionally done to undermine him or not is up for debate but we can see with our own eyes that they didn't fight for the club this season in order to get good results.

 

That has, more than anything, got him the sack and for that they don't really deserve the unwavering support they will probably still receive.

 

If the players got booed onto the pitch on Monday they couldn't have any complaints at all.

[fatboytim]

2 hours ago, Thrill Bert Fox said:

sadly we had no choice and if it had been any other manager they would not be making all this fuss.

 

 

Yep, I was just thinking earlier that I don't remember all this fuss and vitriol from pundits and other clubs' fans when Chelsea sacked Mourinho....and I'm sure that was only about 4 months after he'd won the title for them

[deep blue]

3 hours ago, the fox said:

This is pretty much in a lot of the English media. They build you up so they can knock you down. They do it with, teams,  young English players and even the national team.

 

I'm not even English and I get mad because they do things like that.

Pretty well all the press and pundits pilloried us, and Ranieri, when we brought in. How times change.

 

In a similar situation at Chelsea last season, I don't remember many tears being shed for Mourinho. Our situation is actually much more desperate, we are in a much lower position, and fewer games left.

 

For goodness sake, don't get conned by the press and pundits, just support your team, and the owners who are putting the club's interest first. And as for supporters of other clubs - it's none of their business; **** them!