ARTY_FOX Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 The best in the world tag isn't because of the quality though. I'm lucky to have travelled well and anywhere you go they ask what team you support straight away. Its the competitive nature of anyone can beat anyone and we have (this season aside...) generally 4 teams that can realistically win the league. Where as Germany have 1, France have 1 you would expect (shout out to Monaco though) Spain has 2, Juve are dominant in Italy. Before a season starts people are looking at Man Utd, Man city, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool and arsenal at the minute. I get the last 3 will be scoffed at but the wider world sees it that way. It's the most unpredictable and that's why it's the most popular. Everyone knows Madrid and Barca have the best teams though. 1
ARTY_FOX Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 3 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Strongest - La Liga Most Entertaining - Bundesliga Most competitive - Not this season but you'd have to say the PL This post brings a point up. When I lived in Germany most I spoke to were shouting about the same stuff people are on here. Almost all watch the premier league, thought it was the most entertaining we have so many great teams ect. When I would say about bundesliga teams you get met with the same reaction they would if they mentioned stoke or West Brom. I think most natives moan about their own and want what others have. We just seem to be the most popular one viewer wise.
CosbehFox Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 37 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Most Entertaining - Bundesliga I'd say this isn't true in the past couple of years and Serie A takes this mantle. 1
Guest Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 15 hours ago, Countryfox said: Hinckley and District !! ... by a mile ... fantastic league ... cus I played in it ... Being an unused substitute on the day that the flu epidemic hit your team is not the same as playing in a league.
Dan Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 8 hours ago, trabuch said: Don't get yout point - Bilbao = Everton or something? You would have a point if you were arguing that Spain's top two were better than the Prem's top two. But beyond that you are clutching at straws. Leicester beat Seville (when we were struggling with after effects). Come on Girona! How am I clutching at straws? Barcelona and Real Madrid blow anyone English out of the water in the last ten years, Atletico Madrid have been as strong as anyone in Europe bar Chelsea, Sevilla have won three Europa Leagues. Leicester beating Sevilla was an amazing result all considered. Look at English v Spanish head to head in Europe and there are very few instances of the English side coming out on top in recent years (granted, it's improved, as I said).
Dan Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 I don't think the Bundesliga's that good in all honesty. Bayern are obviously fantastic but it's going through a rough patch as a whole.
Countryfox Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 1 hour ago, FIF said: Being an unused substitute on the day that the flu epidemic hit your team is not the same as playing in a league. Stalwart of the team I'll have you know prof ! .. and funnily enough, I packed up the same day my knees packed up ... got a crate full of trophies in the roof ... thank you very much ! ...
Guest Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 1 minute ago, Countryfox said: Stalwart of the team I'll have you know prof ! .. and funnily enough, I packed up the same day my knees packed up ... got a crate full of trophies in the roof ... thank you very much ! ... Knees are replaceable, get them done and become a vet stalwart. Talking about boxes of trophies in the loft I've just got to mine (i'm moving again) time to bin them I think, worth absolutely nothing - mostly Chess and basketball with an odd baseball and others thrown in. getting old is shitty from that point of view.
fuchsntf Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 On 3.4.2018 at 14:20, Donut said: Typical little team whiny rhetoric. Embrace that youve had an overachieving season, and ready yourself for a relegation battle next and fans questioning Dyche I disagree,I reckon Burnley will have,a few more good seasons. They are not overachieving.Dyche whether you like him/Burnley or not,deserves more respect from within this forum. Like you and many others have pointed out, on thousands of occasions, and at every opportunity, there is no luck or overachievement after 38 games..!!! They are having a top season,and Dyche has proved after a few seasons, of up and downs,he unlike many others has found a Method and sytem,thats working,and IMO play decent football,and to Boot,consistently better on the eye,even when losing. Often showing more commitment than our Lads at Leicester. I reckon alot of managers,have their whining ways( Wenger,Conte..etc),but that does not always reflect on their own teams,or there own achievements. This forum is full of would be, wanna be whining/grumpy merchants, but some still manage to throw in good interesting topics and posts. Just like your @donut a solid,and interesting base and coverings,even occasionally topped off with the cream of thoughts,then again having to accept that space and nothingness,in the middle. A blackhole of only disdain towards our competitors,so full of sourcream you cant see that its not the Interviews or words,its the translation and action on the pitch that counts...
Donut Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 14 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: I disagree,I reckon Burnley will have,a few more good seasons. They are not overachieving.Dyche whether you like him/Burnley or not,deserves more respect from within this forum. Like you and many others have pointed out, on thousands of occasions, and at every opportunity, there is no luck or overachievement after 38 games..!!! They are having a top season,and Dyche has proved after a few seasons, of up and downs,he unlike many others has found a Method and sytem,thats working,and IMO play decent football,and to Boot,consistently better on the eye,even when losing. Often showing more commitment than our Lads at Leicester. I reckon alot of managers,have their whining ways( Wenger,Conte..etc),but that does not always reflect on their own teams,or there own achievements. This forum is full of would be, wanna be whining/grumpy merchants, but some still manage to throw in good interesting topics and posts. Just like your @donut a solid,and interesting base and coverings,even occasionally topped off with the cream of thoughts,then again having to accept that space and nothingness,in the middle. A blackhole of only disdain towards our competitors,so full of sourcream you cant see that its not the Interviews or words,its the translation and action on the pitch that counts... i do like the donut analogy
KingsX Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 5 minutes ago, Donut said: i do like the donut analogy He lost me at topping off with your cream.
Stadt Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 For the money spent West Brom should be able to destroy say Malaga but they wouldn't.
sylofox Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 6 hours ago, Countryfox said: got a crate full of trophies in the roof ... thank you very much ! ... Ridiculous what you can get from car boot sales now 1
lancyclaret Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 (edited) Considering Burnley's wage bill is half that of Leicester's, it would defy logic if the Foxes finished below the Clarets this season. Last August, no neutral would have predicted Burnley would be above Leicester and, especially Everton, going into April with only 7 games left. Edited 6 April 2018 by lancyclaret
Nigel Graham Pearson Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 Just now, lancyclaret said: Considering Burnley's wage bill is half that of Leicester's, it would defy logic if the Foxes finished below the Clarets this season. No neutral would have predicted Burnley would be above Leicester going into April with only 7 games left. ‘Defy logic’ is something of an overstatement. We know very well now that money doesn’t guarantee success, and that the league doesn’t line up in order of who spaffed the most. This is best evidenced by the title winners of 15/16. 2
Md9 Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 Burnley are only in the position they are in because of how poor everyone else below has been this season. Arsenal are also the same. If us or Everton could have put 3 wins together a couple of weeks ago they would be in 6th place. They seem to be doing ok again at the min so we need to keep our momentum going and keep the pressure on so next time they do slip up we will we will be closer to nicking 7th place.
fuchsntf Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 7 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: I don't think the Bundesliga's that good in all honesty. Bayern are obviously fantastic but it's going through a rough patch as a whole. 2nd to PL,because of location,I see alot of Bundesliga. # Forgetting Bayern, all teams Charing that 2nd spot or top 5,including my beloved BVB, are too inconsistent over any 3 year period. The football technic on show is better,and even through they have Boring patches, The last 10-12yrs, I believe top to mid-table games have improved and are consistently more entertaining, though not always,than Alot of the PL equivilant,there seems to be more purpose in their play. IMO,I see more dire moments over a season in the EPL/French/Italien.Leagues Barcelona /RMadrid games can also be boring. Bottom-mid-table teams,plus suprise teams,I see in the Bundesliga often very mundane games, through Individual ball controlling and discipline is better. Over several seasons,I believe the PL brings out the more unexpected game results ,and good runs Form the 'also rans' EG: C.Palace vs L'pool the gerrard slip. Twice Chelsea have been champions, then slipped away,into only top 5 contenders. "Pleasing on the eye" can get boring,disinteresting and lose that adrenilin surge. Football Entertainment or lack of, has many mixed, curious, desperate,inspiring variables. Spain to me has the best league,..More Spanish-teams involvement,in the 2 european competitions, who consistently get to the semis.Their top games are usually (not always) cracking games even without Barcelona.They Seem like the Italians,to be able to up their anti,when in Europe. The English Clubs,also play some great games,but more often,only to the quarters. That said I Prefer the PL,because more bottom-top games are unpredictable,and the Situation can lean to more exciting periods in the middle and Backend of the seasons More teams involved in something or other..Its not technically the best to watch,sometimes not always the hardest in commitment or spirit,but over more mixed season Periods, its those definite unknowns that makes it entertaining,and for home grown and foreign talent,Hard to make ,then keep that intensity and top/high/moderate form ticking. After all that,and no matter how many leagues,I have watched in my travels, its not trying to show or Prove what is the best,but enjoy the moments in any given game,no matter where you are,and what on the day is infront of you. The best goal as a neutral,I ever saw was in the Azteca Stadium.(100,000) Club America against Guadalara,their arch rivals.. Their striker hit the 2 posts very Hard ,the ball came out to the edge of the penalty area, still in the air a midfielder who had fell over,in the same move was getting up,does a diving header which really Hammers onto the bar,in one move still on the edge of the penalty Area corner, after rolling over,with a spring the guy just off his haunches,does a sideward cycle kick, thunders it towards goal ,The gkeeper does a great diving leap,actually gets his hands to it,but the pace of it beat him. My wife and I with another 58,000 just went silent for a few seconds,then exploded. It was truelly a wow moment,even the ref and Opposition Players,applauded him.I believe it was Mexicos goal of the decade.. 58000 Fans seemed lost in the Stadium,and sometimes During the early play,it was surreal, you could hear the silence...but when that goal went in the roar, the sheer accustics seemed to echo around the City,and the crowd from then on more than loud and animated. Singles,Pairs,even Families with small kids actually picnicking on the terraces and vendors also lapping up the atmosphere. Amazing.. I believe they had to rebuild the stadium after the devastating earthquake..of 85/86 Sorry for going off topic.. 1
ARM1968 Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 I had loads made up when I had kids so they could grow up thinking I’m a sporting god. Might have over done it with the European Ice Dance champion 1997 though.
Fox92 Posted 7 April 2018 Posted 7 April 2018 11 hours ago, Md9 said: Burnley are only in the position they are in because of how poor everyone else below has been this season. Arsenal are also the same. If us or Everton could have put 3 wins together a couple of weeks ago they would be in 6th place. They seem to be doing ok again at the min so we need to keep our momentum going and keep the pressure on so next time they do slip up we will we will be closer to nicking 7th place. That is very disrespectful. Even though the quality outside the top 6 is very poor, there's no way Burnley should be in 7th position (or even top 10 for that matter). Dyche has done superb there and it's nice to see an English manager that high up. 4
RumbleFox Posted 7 April 2018 Posted 7 April 2018 5 minutes ago, Fox92 said: That is very disrespectful. Even though the quality outside the top 6 is very poor, there's no way Burnley should be in 7th position (or even top 10 for that matter). Dyche has done superb there and it's nice to see an English manager that high up. Agree. Didn't hear many of our fans saying we only won the league because everyone else was sh1t. We lack class sometimes. X 4
Md9 Posted 7 April 2018 Posted 7 April 2018 3 minutes ago, Fox92 said: That is very disrespectful. Even though the quality outside the top 6 is very poor, there's no way Burnley should be in 7th position (or even top 10 for that matter). Dyche has done superb there and it's nice to see an English manager that high up. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. We are in the same position that if anyone below us put a decent un of wins together we would have dropped s place or 2 anyone outside the top 5 have been very inconsistent to the point you don't win for a month or so and you don't move position because everyone is below is doing just as bad. Burnley are doing well but if we had turned a few of the home draws into wins we would have over taken them. Now we need to take advantage of any one else above us that drops points so we can get ourselves into 7th and hopefully Europe next season
Md9 Posted 7 April 2018 Posted 7 April 2018 12 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Agree. Didn't hear many of our fans saying we only won the league because everyone else was sh1t. We lack class sometimes. X We only lost 3 games all season so we wouldn't have said that. Lack class a little harsh, we are only 3 points behind them and Everton 3 behind us so if one of us would have put a few decent results tothether when Burnley didn't win in 12 games or what ever it was we would both be above them that's all I am saying
EastAnglianFox Posted 7 April 2018 Posted 7 April 2018 Have a bad feeling that Everton will beat Liverpool today
Happy Fox Posted 7 April 2018 Posted 7 April 2018 3 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said: Have a bad feeling that Everton will beat Liverpool today Draw at best imo.
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