Footballwipe Posted 3 April 2018 Posted 3 April 2018 I'm really sorry, but I'm calling bs on this "Don't believe it's the best league in the world" nonsense people seem to spout. It's become one of those terms that gets touted around all the time and yet I genuinely see more people mocking it, or accusing the media of using it, than anyone in the media ACTUALLY using it. In fact it's usually the media/pundits/journalists mocking it! Such a lazy accusation to throw around tbh.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 April 2018 Posted 3 April 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Babylon said: They did it with us in League One, so it's not out of the realms of possibility! No, I was talking bollox. I meant to say they’d be as good as anyone to get them back up, but as you point out, probably not immediately. If I were running West Brom, with the wage bill they must have, I’d be looking for managers with three main attributes: 1. To be tough and take no shite 2. To be willing to clear the decks 3. To be willing and able to rebuild. Again, I can’t think of a better pair in this respect, but it would be tough. One of my mates, sadly a Rams fan, told me that player power did for Pearson at Derby and that the chairman backed the players? i think the PAIR (Nige and Shakey) is what would be needed. Edited 3 April 2018 by Col city fan
Babylon Posted 3 April 2018 Posted 3 April 2018 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: No, I was talking bollox. I meant to say they’d be as good as anyone to get them back up, but as you point out, probably not immediately. If I were running West Brom, with the wage bill they must have, I’d be looking for managers with three main attributes: 1. To be tough and take no shite 2. To be willing to clear the decks 3. To be willing and able to rebuild. Again, I can’t think of a better pair in this respect, but it would be tough. One of my mates, sadly a Rams fan, told me that player power did for Pearson at Derby and that the chairman backed the players? i think the PAIR (Nige and Shakey) is what would be needed. Listening to the rumblings, they could end up with Walsh as well if Everton sweep clean. I'd back them with him involved again, he was always at his best when the budget was smaller. 1
Stadt Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 10 hours ago, Footballwipe said: I'm really sorry, but I'm calling bs on this "Don't believe it's the best league in the world" nonsense people seem to spout. It's become one of those terms that gets touted around all the time and yet I genuinely see more people mocking it, or accusing the media of using it, than anyone in the media ACTUALLY using it. In fact it's usually the media/pundits/journalists mocking it! Such a lazy accusation to throw around tbh. It has reached a point where it's satirised more than said but it's mostly Sky Sports talking heads like Merson and Redknapp that say it, unsurprising really as they're selling the league as a product and they've both been punched in the elbow whilst picking their noses.
sylofox Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 16 hours ago, foxes21 said: Form table in 2018: 1. Spurs 2. Man City 3. Liverpool 4. Man Utd 5. Bournemouth 6. Leicester So spuds have won the league again. Best give them the trophy to keep. 1
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 15 hours ago, Matt said: Do people really need stats like that to realise?! Take Man City out of the equation and I thought it was plain to see the league is bang average not that the 'best league in the world' slogan that the media want you to believe. Agree entirely with this, bar the top 5 the league is mediocre compared to the past and has been for sometime, the top 5 or 6 get stronger stockpiling the best players whilst the rest get weaker.
jammie82uk Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 The fixtures selected for live TV broadcast in the United Kingdom during May 2018 have been announced. (All times BST) Friday 4 May 20:00 Brighton v Man Utd (Sky Sports) Saturday 5 May 12:30 Stoke City v Crystal Palace (Sky Sports) 17:30 Everton v Southampton (BT Sport) Sunday 6 May 13:30 Man City v Huddersfield Town (Sky Sports) 16:30 Chelsea v Liverpool (Sky Sports) Tuesday 8 May 19:45 Swansea City v Southampton (Sky Sports) Wednesday 9 May 19:45 Chelsea v Huddersfield Town 19:45 Leicester City v Arsenal 20:00 Man City v Brighton 20:00 Spurs v Newcastle United Thursday 10 May 19:45 West Ham v Man Utd (Sky Sports)
Md9 Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 liverpool have started well 3-0 already (I know it's not a prem game ?)
ARM1968 Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 Maybe not but it’s a jolly good start for Liverpool. Invincible Pep has been Kloppered again.
Corky Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 Hope they can do the same on Saturday and we can open a six point gap to Everton.
CosbehFox Posted 4 April 2018 Posted 4 April 2018 On 03/04/2018 at 16:30, Col city fan said: No, I was talking bollox. I meant to say they’d be as good as anyone to get them back up, but as you point out, probably not immediately. If I were running West Brom, with the wage bill they must have, I’d be looking for managers with three main attributes: 1. To be tough and take no shite 2. To be willing to clear the decks 3. To be willing and able to rebuild. Again, I can’t think of a better pair in this respect, but it would be tough. One of my mates, sadly a Rams fan, told me that player power did for Pearson at Derby and that the chairman backed the players? i think the PAIR (Nige and Shakey) is what would be needed. At Derby County you can see what Nige was getting at. Their continued insistence on playing that utter donkey Richard Keogh. Their best player this season of course a Nige signing, Vydra. Agreed he needs his assistants. But it reads to me he loves it in Belgium.
Aus Fox Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 Just out off interest, which league do people class as the best league in the world?
st albans fox Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 1 hour ago, Aus Fox said: Just out off interest, which league do people class as the best league in the world? Best league for what?
sylofox Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 1 hour ago, Aus Fox said: Just out off interest, which league do people class as the best league in the world? That's easy it has to be one where spuds finish bottom if we don't finish top.
Donut Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 On 4/3/2018 at 15:03, Matt said: Burnley didn't win for nearly 2 months and no-one challenged them. Very competitive. They started the season on top 4 form, thats why they could have a bad run. Theyre unexpectedly good form, and bad form, has levelled them out.
winteriscoming Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 13 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Just out off interest, which league do people class as the best league in the world? I think it's difficult because I don't watch the other leagues regualar enough. I don't listen to pundits/media saying the premiership is the best league in the world. I watch the odd la liga game but that's it. How people like merson can say the premiership is the best when he and others obviously don't watch other leagues is beyond me. It's the same argument when a foreign manager managers in the Prem and no ones heard of him, automatically pundits dismiss them as average when clearly imo they have more tactical awareness than British managers. I know this doesn't apply to every foreign coach but if they have a good record in Europe you know what your getting. Sorry for going off topic just my opinion. 1
Countryfox Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 13 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Just out off interest, which league do people class as the best league in the world? Hinckley and District !! ... by a mile ... fantastic league ... cus I played in it ...
gurru991 Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 14 hours ago, Aus Fox said: Just out off interest, which league do people class as the best league in the world? For me personally I still think its the EPL ... best league & most competitive ..
sylofox Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 On 03/04/2018 at 17:56, Babylon said: Listening to the rumblings, they could end up with Walsh as well if Everton sweep clean. I'd back them with him involved again, he was always at his best when the budget was smaller. Talking to a couple of baggies today the comments where. " If we don't clear the books we won't have a budget next season". Seems they have no relegation clause built in on anyone. They also don't see any prem side wanting anyone.
st albans fox Posted 5 April 2018 Posted 5 April 2018 1 hour ago, sylofox said: Talking to a couple of baggies today the comments where. " If we don't clear the books we won't have a budget next season". Seems they have no relegation clause built in on anyone. They also don't see any prem side wanting anyone. They have some decent players that will command good fees but lower half PL clubs will not want to take on some of the salaries so fees could be suppressed further than relegated clubs already suffer to cover wage differentials.
Dan Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 Strongest league for me is La Liga. Only have to look at the European record in the past ten years to see that it's absolutely miles in front at the top. Even beyond the big two you've got Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia and Bilbao who have all been good sides. I think there's been a lot of unfair criticism aimed at Spain in the past for the supposed dross at the bottom - not saying there isn't, but I think it's highlighted more by how good the top sides are rather than how strong England's bottom ones are compared to Spain. I can totally believe Barcelona would stick 8 past West Brom. But in fairness, I do think the Premier League has caught up at the top. Man City, Tottenham and Liverpool are all very good, entertaining teams and Man Utd, while not entertaining, are usually pretty effective. Chelsea usually bounce back, although Arsenal seem to get progressively worse under Wenger. Beyond that though it's rubbish. I don't feel like we should be pushing for 7th based on this season. We've been good at times, awful at times, generally very hit and miss. I'd expect us to be about 11th or 12th based on our level yet we're probably joint favourites for 7th. 2
trabuch Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: Strongest league for me is La Liga. Only have to look at the European record in the past ten years to see that it's absolutely miles in front at the top. Even beyond the big two you've got Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia and Bilbao who have all been good sides. I think there's been a lot of unfair criticism aimed at Spain in the past for the supposed dross at the bottom - not saying there isn't, but I think it's highlighted more by how good the top sides are rather than how strong England's bottom ones are compared to Spain. I can totally believe Barcelona would stick 8 past West Brom. But in fairness, I do think the Premier League has caught up at the top. Man City, Tottenham and Liverpool are all very good, entertaining teams and Man Utd, while not entertaining, are usually pretty effective. Chelsea usually bounce back, although Arsenal seem to get progressively worse under Wenger. Beyond that though it's rubbish. I don't feel like we should be pushing for 7th based on this season. We've been good at times, awful at times, generally very hit and miss. I'd expect us to be about 11th or 12th based on our level yet we're probably joint favourites for 7th. Don't get yout point - Bilbao = Everton or something? You would have a point if you were arguing that Spain's top two were better than the Prem's top two. But beyond that you are clutching at straws. Leicester beat Seville (when we were struggling with after effects). Come on Girona! Edited 6 April 2018 by trabuch
st albans fox Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 4 hours ago, trabuch said: Don't get yout point - Bilbao = Everton or something? You would have a point if you were arguing that Spain's top two were better than the Prem's top two. But beyond that you are clutching at straws. Leicester beat Seville (when we were struggling with after effects). Come on Girona! Are you going to make a reasoned argument that we were the better side over two legs? and as the Liverpool performance and a run of wins showed, we were still well capable of very good form at the time. fwiw, I doubt there is much to choose below the top half dozen in any of the leagues. I would expect the prem clubs to come out on top overall due to their better depth of squad.
Sunbury Fox Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Strongest league for me is La Liga. Only have to look at the European record in the past ten years to see that it's absolutely miles in front at the top. Even beyond the big two you've got Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia and Bilbao who have all been good sides. I think there's been a lot of unfair criticism aimed at Spain in the past for the supposed dross at the bottom - not saying there isn't, but I think it's highlighted more by how good the top sides are rather than how strong England's bottom ones are compared to Spain. I can totally believe Barcelona would stick 8 past West Brom. But in fairness, I do think the Premier League has caught up at the top. Man City, Tottenham and Liverpool are all very good, entertaining teams and Man Utd, while not entertaining, are usually pretty effective. Chelsea usually bounce back, although Arsenal seem to get progressively worse under Wenger. Beyond that though it's rubbish. I don't feel like we should be pushing for 7th based on this season. We've been good at times, awful at times, generally very hit and miss. I'd expect us to be about 11th or 12th based on our level yet we're probably joint favourites for 7th. Based on our current points per game, we'll get 53 points over the season. Looking back over the last 10 seasons, that would have seen us finish no lower than 10th in any of those seasons. Mostly, we'd have been 8th or 9th, with one season where we might have been 7th on goal difference. So, whilst like you I assumed that the points needed to finish in the top half would be much lower this season than normal, that's not borne out by the facts. We have been pretty inconsistent this season but I think that's just par for the course for teams finishing 8th to 10th in the Prem. They generally win no more games than they lose, and the top 6 are generally well clear of the rest. Edited 6 April 2018 by Sunbury Fox
ealingfox Posted 6 April 2018 Posted 6 April 2018 Strongest - La Liga Most Entertaining - Bundesliga Most competitive - Not this season but you'd have to say the PL
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