nnfox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 17 minutes ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said: I agree with those who suggest he gets his head down, tare the Premiership up early season and he can have his pick in Jan. He sadly damaged his stock last season and needs to rebrand himself. The club are in a bit of a weird inbetween position with him too. If Roma offer £30m, do we take it in the knowledge that we could have had more last summer and could get more in January/next summer if he performs well. But on the other hand, if he has another season like the last one, we'd struggle to get him out on loan to West Ham. A real stick or twist dilemma!
Sir Shep Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 £30M will buy Mahrez for a year on loan, a cheeky little small print we should insert on his transfer!
Maggie's town fox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 9 minutes ago, nnfox said: The club are in a bit of a weird inbetween position with him too. If Roma offer £30m, do we take it in the knowledge that we could have had more last summer and could get more in January/next summer if he performs well. But on the other hand, if he has another season like the last one, we'd struggle to get him out on loan to West Ham. A real stick or twist dilemma! Spot on, totally agree. We know that the transfer market is now totally crazy and spiralling out of control. If we had originally signed Mahrez for say 15m then yes 30m seems a steal, however I also look at it from the other view that we only spent £400k for him so a 29.5k profit is good business. So the stick or twist is certainly a dilemma and if he does have another average first half of season then he may well be back down to a 15-20m player.
boweigo Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 15 minutes ago, nnfox said: The club are in a bit of a weird inbetween position with him too. If Roma offer £30m, do we take it in the knowledge that we could have had more last summer and could get more in January/next summer if he performs well. But on the other hand, if he has another season like the last one, we'd struggle to get him out on loan to West Ham. A real stick or twist dilemma! That is the million dollar question. Timing is everything.
Gerard Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 On 13/07/2017 at 06:55, st albans fox said: I wonder if the club is so bothered about the fee if he were leave the premier league? I assume they know the fan base would be livid if he was sold to Arsenal for 35mill but to Italy? perhaps it could be smoothed out with Roma by including someone coming the other way. Anyone knocking around on their bench that could do a job for us? I would be livid if they sold Mahrez to Roma for £35m and refused to sell to Arsenal for £40m. Arsenal are not our rivals. This isn't Barcelona refusing to sell to Real Madrid or even us refusing to sell Ulloa to Sunderland last January. We sell to the highest bidder regardless of who that is.
Beechey Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 minute ago, Gerard said: I would be livid if they sold Mahrez to Roma for £35m and refused to sell to Arsenal for £40m. Arsenal are not our rivals. This isn't Barcelona refusing to sell to Real Madrid or even us refusing to sell Ulloa to Sunderland last January. We sell to the highest bidder regardless of who that is. I disagree, I really don't want to see Mahrez playing against us, and to be honest, £5m is peanuts.
Suzie the Fox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 minute ago, Gerard said: I would be livid if they sold Mahrez to Roma for £35m and refused to sell to Arsenal for £40m. Arsenal are not our rivals. This isn't Barcelona refusing to sell to Real Madrid or even us refusing to sell Ulloa to Sunderland last January. We sell to the highest bidder regardless of who that is. I'm actually the total opposite. I don't want to see Mahrez in the premier league at any club. Especially Arsenal
Gerard Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 6 minutes ago, Beechey said: I disagree, I really don't want to see Mahrez playing against us, and to be honest, £5m is peanuts. £5m really isn't "peanuts" and especially by refusing it it gets us nothing tangible. Would you sell your house for £25,000 cheaper to another person just because you didn't particularly like the highest bidder? There has to be a very good reason that you can justify when you decide to throw £5m down the toilet just out of spite or personal preference. Why should we make our club weaker and let our competitors get an advantage over us because that is what we're doing if we decide to take a lower bid out of spite.
hejammy Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 minute ago, Gerard said: £5m really isn't "peanuts" and especially by refusing it it gets us nothing tangible. Would you sell your house for £25,000 cheaper to another person just because you didn't particularly like the highest bidder? There has to be a very good reason that you can justify when you decide to throw £5m down the toilet just out of spite or personal preference. Why should we make our club weaker and let our competitors get an advantage over us because that is what we're doing if we decide to take a lower bid out of spite. It's not out of spite and potentially it could be the difference of us finishing one place higher or not which would justify the £5m, there are so many other reasons, out of sight out of mind I think has a price and £5m is a good price to pay for it. It's not like selling your house but if we were to compare, if it was the house where you grew up or where your kids grew up and then you had to drive past it everyday to just see it being ruined or made into a house of your dreams but you cannot have it back. That's the right analogy so yes much rather sell him to Roma for £5m less
waylander Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 21 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: I'm actually the total opposite. I don't want to see Mahrez in the premier league at any club. Especially Arsenal I agree we would be giving a rival competitor for the league a potential player of the season again. Sell abroad .
Ted Maul Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 If he does go, then I'd definitely want him to go abroad- that way I can want him to succeed rather than fall flat on his backside like I would if he went to Arsenal.
Gerard Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Just now, hejammy said: It's not out of spite and potentially it could be the difference of us finishing one place higher or not which would justify the £5m, there are so many other reasons, out of sight out of mind I think has a price and £5m is a good price to pay for it. It's not like selling your house but if we were to compare, if it was the house where you grew up or where your kids grew up and then you had to drive past it everyday to just see it being ruined or made into a house of your dreams but you cannot have it back. That's the right analogy so yes much rather sell him to Roma for £5m less Forget Arsenal, they're not our direct competitors. We should be aspiring to compete with Southampton, West Ham and Everton. Also Mahrez isn't the only player Arsenal can buy, they could end up buying a better player or a 2016/17 Mahrez. It makes terrible business sense for us to throw £5m away just because Arsenal may do a bit better. There's about a 95% chance they'll finish higher than us with or without Mahrez.
Matt Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 hour ago, nnfox said: The club are in a bit of a weird inbetween position with him too. If Roma offer £30m, do we take it in the knowledge that we could have had more last summer and could get more in January/next summer if he performs well. But on the other hand, if he has another season like the last one, we'd struggle to get him out on loan to West Ham. A real stick or twist dilemma! Are you really asking that? It's a no brainer. Stick. "If Roma offer £30m, do we take it in the knowledge that we could have had more last summer" -Erm no, it's his own fault people are only interested for £30m, we all know he's worth more than that in this market why should we accept less because he had a poor season, something out of our control, only he could have done something about that/can do something about that next season, he wants to thank himself lucky he started games last season. "But on the other hand, if he has another season like the last one, we'd struggle to get him out on loan to West Ham." -Oh well, his career is arguably down the shitter if we have the scenario, yes it's costing us alot of money in wages and a case of look at the money we could have got but it's a gamble I and I dare say the club are will to take. If we don't get a decent offer and he does end up staying and playing for us he needs to perform, simple as that, for himself, for any potential moves, and for his career.
RoyFox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 I like watching Roma, much prefer to cheer on Mahrez in Serie A (as long as the price is upwards of £37m) than squirm when he turns Fuchs in an Arsenal shirt. I'd rather he stayed tbf, hopefully Appleton and Shakey can work their magic on his frame of mind.
nnfox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 hour ago, Matt said: Are you really asking that? It's a no brainer. Stick. "If Roma offer £30m, do we take it in the knowledge that we could have had more last summer" -Erm no, it's his own fault people are only interested for £30m, we all know he's worth more than that in this market why should we accept less because he had a poor season, something out of our control, only he could have done something about that/can do something about that next season, he wants to thank himself lucky he started games last season. "But on the other hand, if he has another season like the last one, we'd struggle to get him out on loan to West Ham." -Oh well, his career is arguably down the shitter if we have the scenario, yes it's costing us alot of money in wages and a case of look at the money we could have got but it's a gamble I and I dare say the club are will to take. If we don't get a decent offer and he does end up staying and playing for us he needs to perform, simple as that, for himself, for any potential moves, and for his career. Of course it's a dilemma. Mahrez is an asset to the club, the value of which has risen massively to a peak last summer and has now fallen. From here it could go up or down. Fact is, I would rather take 30m now than 15m next year, or nothing. I am aware that our financial situation is secure, but 30m is still an amount of money not to ve dismissed out of hand. The problem is that the club's asset's future value will largely be set by the performance of someone who doesn't want to be here.
Steve Earle Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 Not. A. Penny. Less. Than. £50M. Where? Doesn't matter.
Matt Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 12 minutes ago, nnfox said: Of course it's a dilemma. Mahrez is an asset to the club, the value of which has risen massively to a peak last summer and has now fallen. From here it could go up or down. Fact is, I would rather take 30m now than 15m next year, or nothing. I am aware that our financial situation is secure, but 30m is still an amount of money not to ve dismissed out of hand. The problem is that the club's asset's future value will largely be set by the performance of someone who doesn't want to be here. That sum of money already has been dismissed out of hand when we spunked the same amount (give or take) on Slimani as far i'm concerned on that comparison Mahrez is worth alot more than £30m, no deal. He might not want to be here but if he is still here come the start of the season he needs to perform to get a move, if he doesn't, no-one will be interested and he stays here for the rest of his contract - He certainly doesn't get a move to a big club or play in the CL, that is for sure. His choice.
Richmondfox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 If 5m is peanuts then Roma can pay it. They can agree personal terms with Mahrez but that means Fuch all as it's the club who decide when and how much he's sold for. Clubs know the price, Mahrez knows the price so no point him and his agent dealing around that. For every stupid low low bid from Wenger the price goes up. We need to sell him for big money otherwise the club looks like idiots.
Edingleyfox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 At the moment not sure there is even 30 million euros on the table!
esoog Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 No desperate need to sell. Under Long term contract £50mil
car1os Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 If we're not selling for 35 million pounds, we definitely won't sell for 23 million Euros! http://www.caughtoffside.com/2017/07/15/roma-make-e23m-bid-for-mahrez/
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 On 08/07/2017 at 19:44, Col city fan said:I don't get why so many people would be happy to have a player back in the first team next season, when he has made it clear he does not want to be here and there seems to be no indication that he's changed his mind, regrets what he's said etc. Indeed, all the reports are that he's getting peed off the longer he's staying here. Is it more important to people to have players at the club who really want to play for us, or very good players, when they don't? I'm with you on this, and add to it that if Mahrez stays it may lead to the departure of who wants more opportunity.
HighPeakFox Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 If he must be sold, I'd rather it now than January.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 There's a few people talking about Mahrez and wanting him to go abroad because they don't wanna see him play for an English side, and would prefer to cheer him on with Roma (or whatever). Personally I wouldn't cheer him on regardless of who he turns out for, he's a work shy luxury player who doesn't wanna play for us anymore so he can do one! At least with Kante he had the courage to do what he wanted to do, leave for a bigger team regardless of them having no champions league, taking a one year hit to probably have that for the rest of his career. Mahrez sulked, and underperformed and is now struggling to get his dream move, tough shit!
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