Mahrez to .......................?

[Leeds Fox]

5 hours ago, Almo-Fox said:

I think the  reported informations by ssk ( Leicester rejected 20 m £ bid from Rona ) is a lure from monchi DS of AS Roma in order to get sufficint and quiet time  to do business ( negos on mahrez salary and the real and agreed bid for LCFC )

 

Surely the rejected bid is around 30 m £ (35m€)  also  reported by ssk 

So mahrez s seems a priority for AS Roma 

 

Offering £10-15m less than already has been offered doesn't seem like he's a priority.

[Redouane]

1 minute ago, Leeds Fox said:

 

Offering £10-15m less than already has been offered doesn't seem like he's a priority.

You gotta start low and build up the bid. You can't offer 50 mil straight up. They have room for negotiations since there are no other clubs actively trying to meet Leicester's demands

[Dan]

18 hours ago, Col city fan said:

The performance of one footballer is generally underpinned by the team they are playing in. This is why the best players sign for the best teams. Money being probably the biggest factor, of course, but this is followed by the prospect of playing with the best players. Messi, singularly, is an amazing footballer, but playing alongside Suarez, Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi will make him look even better.

For me, this is why Mahrez looked so brill in the title winning season. Himself, Mahrez was exceptional BUT he was playing in a really in form side. Vardy, for example, scored just about every assist that Mahrez made to him.

Mahrez suffered from playing in a poor side last season. Pre Shakey, we were terrible  (worse than anything we saw under Pearson) and Mahrez went off the boil. They all did.

It's my contention that if you went and put Riyad back into a great team, you'd once more see a great player. I don't think he's the type of character to pull an under performing side around, he needs to benefit I think from OTHERS doing the leadership stuff.

You chuck Mahrez into a Barcelona and I think he'd be fantastic again.

I agree fully and it gets well overlooked. We are significantly a poorer side without Kante. If Ndidi had come in during the summer I think Mahrez would've retained his form. I think he'd mentally given up a while ago - which is why I'd sell him. Although of course I'm open to him staying if Shakespeare & Appleton think they can get him hungry again.

 

I'm not defending him at all costs, I'm just trying to look for reasons as to why his form dipped and how we can prevent it happening with others in future. It doesn't just happen. I've never bought that. That's a cop-out.

 

I said it earlier in the thread but we're terrible for this in this country. We'd rather pull Mahrez down than try and get him to drag us up. Not doing his job in being our main creator? Simple, criticise his distance covered and his defensive work. Don't help him get back to being able to create and score, get him defending too.

 

He was bound to struggle. Kante's presence could open teams up and when you lose that, it changes Riyad's game significantly.

 

Ask yourselves this.... how would Eden Hazard have reacted? Similar kind of player. Probably a better one. Probably even less likely to defend. You don't try and stifle him do you? You build around him.

 

Our mentality as a team last season was appalling right from the word go. It was like we started believing what everyone said about us and that came from the manager above all.

[ealingfox]

5 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

IF and I mean if it's true,  the latest is that he's agreed terms with Roma on the condition that Arsenal,  who he'd prefer to sign for don't put in an equal bid.

Two things here.  One, I don't think Roma will ever offer enough money as I think it's just show for the fans after they've just sold most of their crown jewels. Secondly, as a very decent big club they should tell the pretentious little turd to piss off, how disrespectful IF true!

 

I doubt that is true given that it definitely constitutes tapping up.

[Demoox]

22 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I agree fully and it gets well overlooked. We are significantly a poorer side without Kante. If Ndidi had come in during the summer I think Mahrez would've retained his form. I think he'd mentally given up a while ago - which is why I'd sell him. Although of course I'm open to him staying if Shakespeare & Appleton think they can get him hungry again.

 

I'm not defending him at all costs, I'm just trying to look for reasons as to why his form dipped and how we can prevent it happening with others in future. It doesn't just happen. I've never bought that. That's a cop-out.

 

I said it earlier in the thread but we're terrible for this in this country. We'd rather pull Mahrez down than try and get him to drag us up. Not doing his job in being our main creator? Simple, criticise his distance covered and his defensive work. Don't help him get back to being able to create and score, get him defending too.

 

He was bound to struggle. Kante's presence could open teams up and when you lose that, it changes Riyad's game significantly.

 

Ask yourselves this.... how would Eden Hazard have reacted? Similar kind of player. Probably a better one. Probably even less likely to defend. You don't try and stifle him do you? You build around him.

 

Our mentality as a team last season was appalling right from the word go. It was like we started believing what everyone said about us and that came from the manager above all.

Can we just stop with this "Kante-dependence" legend ? Last year was just the failure of Ranieri's system, and it was super predictable. Even the year of the Title, the team was struggling, Riyad was touching the ball in the entire match as much as Ozil in 10 mins. The difference was just the team spirit and the common dream that gave wings to the players. Drinkwater, Vardy, Mahrez, Gray etc, skillfull players we reduced to playing hoofball. Get some creative players and turn into a possession style of play and you'll see, Ranieri just ruined his work by choosing the continuity.

[EnglishOxide]

If we can agree a deal of at least £35m with Roma then take it.

 

It might also encourage Arsenal to come back to the table and offer £45m ish.

[MPH]

21 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said:

If we can agree a deal of at least £35m with Roma then take it.

 

It might also encourage Arsenal to come back to the table and offer £45m ish.

 

 

Why  would they offer 45 if we would be willing to accept 35?

 

 

nice try, Rudkin!

[Dan]

6 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

IF and I mean if it's true,  the latest is that he's agreed terms with Roma on the condition that Arsenal,  who he'd prefer to sign for don't put in an equal bid.

Two things here.  One, I don't think Roma will ever offer enough money as I think it's just show for the fans after they've just sold most of their crown jewels. Secondly, as a very decent big club they should tell the pretentious little turd to piss off, how disrespectful IF true!

That's ironic. Given his "fierce ambition" that he's prioritising a Europa League side over a Champions League one.

[Dan]

1 hour ago, Demoox said:

Can we just stop with this "Kante-dependence" legend ? Last year was just the failure of Ranieri's system, and it was super predictable. Even the year of the Title, the team was struggling, Riyad was touching the ball in the entire match as much as Ozil in 10 mins. The difference was just the team spirit and the common dream that gave wings to the players. Drinkwater, Vardy, Mahrez, Gray etc, skillfull players we reduced to playing hoofball. Get some creative players and turn into a possession style of play and you'll see, Ranieri just ruined his work by choosing the continuity.

Why would I stop when it's largely true? It's a number of factors, both missing a player like Kante and Ranieri completely messing things up included.

 

Ranieri tried to continue what we were doing before without replacing it's most crucial player.

[gurru991]

All though i admire and appreciate his talent, the day he said he wanted gone I wanted him gone.... I would prefer that he leaves the premier league and doesn't come back to haunt us. He can go any time now, 'I only want players who want to be here

[Albert]

Kyle Walker has just been sold for £50m. A right back that struggles to defend and can't cross a ball.

Mahrez is a complete one off. Why would we sell a Premierleague winning PFA & African player of the year that's got 3yrs left on his contract for anything less than that?

 

[surrifox]

15 minutes ago, Albert said:

Kyle Walker has just been sold for £50m. A right back that struggles to defend and can't cross a ball.

Mahrez is a complete one off. Why would we sell a Premierleague winning PFA & African player of the year that's got 3yrs left on his contract for anything less than that?

 

Harsh . Walker is a decent player. 50 mill is ridiculous but I bet Levy could get 10 mill for Doris the Spurs tea lady .

i hate seeing us dicked about and really hope the owners are willing to dig in as RM is clearly wanted by some other clubs and selling for less than 40 mill shouldn't be entertained 

[Old Fox]

42 minutes ago, Albert said:

Kyle Walker has just been sold for £50m. A right back that struggles to defend and can't cross a ball.

Mahrez is a complete one off. Why would we sell a Premierleague winning PFA & African player of the year that's got 3yrs left on his contract for anything less than that?

 

Spot on Albert and I believe our owners were adamant that they would not give him away or be held to ransom .....£45m+ is their expectation to even consider him going.

 

All of this Roma bid is a smokescreen trying to flush Arsenal out by RM advisors imo but it could be a long August as I would be surprised if this is resolved quickly.

[AjcW]

3 hours ago, EnglishOxide said:

If we can agree a deal of at least £35m with Roma then take it.

 

It might also encourage Arsenal to come back to the table and offer £45m ish.

Remind me never to hire you... 

[mozartfox]

47 minutes ago, surrifox said:

Harsh . Walker is a decent player. 50 mill is ridiculous but I bet Levy could get 10 mill for Doris the Spurs tea lady .

i hate seeing us dicked about and really hope the owners are willing to dig in as RM is clearly wanted by some other clubs and selling for less than 40 mill shouldn't be entertained 

You make a good point about Levy.. He knows how to maximise fees.. We on the other hand appear to conduct fire sales.

[Chico1958]

I Walker is worth 50 mill and Swansea aren't budging on 50 mill

 

Why would we drop our asking price............. Let him play with the kids

 

He's our most talented player and like Swansea, we just need to make it clear what price you have to pay for such talent.

 

Like somebody mentioned before me he's after Arsenal over Roma..... Europa v Champions League

 

So is it really about ambition or greed ?

[NotTheMarketLeader]

1 hour ago, Albert said:

Kyle Walker has just been sold for £50m. A right back that struggles to defend and can't cross a ball.

Mahrez is a complete one off. Why would we sell a Premierleague winning PFA & African player of the year that's got 3yrs left on his contract for anything less than that?

 

We are never going to get £50m as it seems no one else wants him.

 

That said I concur with your sentiments.

 

Sky are reporting (which probs isn't true) that we've rejected Roma's £20m bid but would accept £30m.

 

I have slated Mahrez for last season with good reason, but we are now faced with this scenario.

 

Within a year selling 2 of our most crucial players that won the title who between them have won the last two player of the years awards for £60m!!!!

 

In this 'market' that is absolutely criminal.

[Albert]

51 minutes ago, surrifox said:

Harsh . Walker is a decent player. 50 mill is ridiculous but I bet Levy could get 10 mill for Doris the Spurs tea lady .

i hate seeing us dicked about and really hope the owners are willing to dig in as RM is clearly wanted by some other clubs and selling for less than 40 mill shouldn't be entertained 

Not doubting he's a decent player but that fee alone justifies the price we've put on Mahrez as he's such a unique player. There's plenty of players similar to Walker but only a handful of players that u can compare to Mahrez.

The owners won't be messed around and we hold all the cards as he's got 3yrs to run on his contract. If nobody bids the right amount he won't be going anywhere!

Offering 20m to the club & a multi billionaire owner for such a player is embarrassing and disrespectful to everyone. I've no doubt they were told to F off and told not to bother even getting in contact again unless the offers at least doubled.

[sdb]

1 hour ago, Albert said:

Kyle Walker has just been sold for £50m. A right back that struggles to defend and can't cross a ball.

Mahrez is a complete one off. Why would we sell a Premierleague winning PFA & African player of the year that's got 3yrs left on his contract for anything less than that?

 

 

Exactly. It's weird how people's valuations keep dropping. If Sterling is worth £50m, or Sissoko £35m, or Walker £50m, Carroll £35m etc. then Mahrez is comfortably a £50mill player in 2017. 

[katieakita]

Sometimes there are no stories for the media so they have to find stories and that can be a lot  re hashed old stories, speculation and untruths. As a club the owners give very little away about their plans with recruitments and players moving on and the media know this. However  because we are not fashionable not being In London, Liverpool or Manchester  we don't get the coverage others get. If and it is a big if Roma have bid £20 million for Mahrez that is about as credible as us bidding £30 million for Dele Ali and having it took seriously. He has a long term contract and we have a value on him think some of us need to show a bit more faith in the owners and the clubs management they have a pretty good record of delivering.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

5 minutes ago, sdb said:

 

Exactly. It's weird how people's valuations keep dropping. If Sterling is worth £50m, or Sissoko £35m, or Walker £50m, Carroll £35m etc. then Mahrez is comfortably a £50mill player in 2017. 

Of course taking in account his form of 24 to 13 months ago.

 

His problem, and ours is nobody trusts  him enough anymore after the last 12 months to  shell out what is required.

[Albert]

2 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

We are never going to get £50m as it seems no one else wants him.

 

That said I concur with your sentiments.

 

Sky are reporting (which probs isn't true) that we've rejected Roma's £20m bid but would accept £30.

 

Imagine selling 2 of our crucial players that won the title who between them have won the last two player of the years for £60m.

 

In this 'market' that is absolutely criminal.

It's still early days in the transfer window. Of course no one is going to offer £50m straight away as every club will be looking at lots of different players & options.

I can guarantee you now that once it gets to crunch time and clubs start to get desperate and have missed out on other targets they'll start throwing money around to try and get transfers completed 

 

[weller54]

WELEASE WIYAD MAHWEZ!... 

He wanks high in Woma! 

[ozleicester]

Who is better...

Mahrez?

Kyle Walker?

Gylfi?

[mozartfox]

6 minutes ago, katieakita said:

Sometimes there are no stories for the media so they have to find stories and that can be a lot  re hashed old stories, speculation and untruths. As a club the owners give very little away about their plans with recruitments and players moving on and the media know this. However  because we are not fashionable not being In London, Liverpool or Manchester  we don't get the coverage others get. If and it is a big if Roma have bid £20 million for Mahrez that is about as credible as us bidding £30 million for Dele Ali and having it took seriously. He has a long term contract and we have a value on him think some of us need to show a bit more faith in the owners and the clubs management they have a pretty good record of delivering.

This is an extremely good analogy of the situation, although reference to non-playing management delivering will split many  opinions when you focus on, dare I mention it again, last Summer's Transfer Window......... Although some on here blame Claudio and Walsh for this car-crash.