katieakita Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Ask yourselves this would Chelsea have sold Eden Hazard at the start of last season for £20 million. Previously to Mahrez he had been the PFA winner. In our title winning season apart from a very special goal for us that he scored he had an awful season worse than Mahrez last season, you can argue that he helped get JM the sack by refusing to play at the KP. He was sulking from the start in the game against us and injured himself diving, Mourinho wanted to get back on the pitch and he refused saying he was injured. No surprise though he had a good season last season as he is a class act same as Mahrez. we have an asset that is proven and do not need to sell and certainly not at some of the claimed figures
foxfanazer Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 6 minutes ago, katieakita said: Ask yourselves this would Chelsea have sold Eden Hazard at the start of last season for £20 million. Previously to Mahrez he had been the PFA winner. In our title winning season apart from a very special goal for us that he scored he had an awful season worse than Mahrez last season, you can argue that he helped get JM the sack by refusing to play at the KP. He was sulking from the start in the game against us and injured himself diving, Mourinho wanted to get back on the pitch and he refused saying he was injured. No surprise though he had a good season last season as he is a class act same as Mahrez. we have an asset that is proven and do not need to sell and certainly not at some of the claimed figures Agree to some extent but Hazard has done it over multiple seasons. Riyad just has the one
willie-bell-in-rothley Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Come on owners make a stand, if Swansea can do it so can you, stick to your guns Everton now offering £45m for a £30m player , Mahrez £45m or he stays here
gerryn Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 What about Jack Wiltshire and £20m would you take that? Still don't get why we let Will Hughes Go to Watford for £4m and as far as I know didn't bid. appreciate both have injury history but so did Huth and he's done ok with our medic team
fleckneymike Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 If we sell Mahrez we have to replace Mahrez. Who is out there for £30m who could reasonably be expected to do what Mahrez has done? Roma can go **** themselves.
katieakita Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 2 minutes ago, gerryn said: What about Jack Wiltshire and £20m would you take that? Still don't get why we let Will Hughes Go to Watford for £4m and as far as I know didn't bid. appreciate both have injury history but so did Huth and he's done ok with our medic team We had seen him play, thing is thought there was an agent link with Watford for him and could we promise him game time, where would he play who would he replace
weller54 Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 2 minutes ago, gerryn said: What about Jack Wiltshire and £20m would you take that? Still don't get why we let Will Hughes Go to Watford for £4m and as far as I know didn't bid. appreciate both have injury history but so did Huth and he's done ok with our medic team Jack Wheelchair makes Mendy look robust!... Will Hughes would only get in our development side!.... Or further down the scale.. Watford's first team.
mozartfox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Great to read in the Sun that he has agreed terms with Roma. Just the fee to go.
surrifox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 RM and his advisers haven't helped the club get value by hawking him around the leagues like a cheap hooker and him looking like a smacked arse when wearing city's kit . You hardly heard a thing from walker demanding a move ( or most other players TBH)
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Sanchez ... I want to play in the champions league but the decision is with Arsenal . Not sure what the hell that means but if he is off might force Wenger to make a decent bid for Mahrez.
nnfox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 13 minutes ago, surrifox said: RM and his advisers haven't helped the club get value by hawking him around the leagues like a cheap hooker and him looking like a smacked arse when wearing city's kit . You hardly heard a thing from walker demanding a move ( or most other players TBH) This exactly. Everyone knows he wants to leave. We have tried to take a strong stance with the 50m price tag. By putting a price tag on him, we have put him up for sale, I honestly think there is no appetite to keep him (but who knows what goes on behind the scenes). He will go for 35m if there is no bidding war.
foxes21 Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Roma have just signed a RW, Cengiz Under. Should stop their interest in Mahrez.
Ric Flair Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 2 hours ago, mozartfox said: You make a good point about Levy.. He knows how to maximise fees.. We on the other hand appear to conduct fire sales. No we don't though. Give me some examples of this? People think because Kante had a release clause and we had to sell him for way less than he's worth and nearly did the same with Vardy that we're weak negotiators. How about the obscene fee we obtained for Schlupp? Our refusal to let Ulloa go to a rival even for a decent fee. We've made money on Hernandez and Zieler who were both muck. Weve said we want £50 million, how is that conducting a fire sale?
Matt Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: No we don't though. Give me some examples of this? People think because Kante had a release clause and we had to sell him for way less than he's worth and nearly did the same with Vardy that we're weak negotiators. How about the obscene fee we obtained for Schlupp? Our refusal to let Ulloa go to a rival even for a decent fee. We've made money on Hernandez and Zieler who were both muck. Weve said we want £50 million, how is that conducting a fire sale? My problem isn't necesserilly our outgoings, barr Kante but we draw a line under that. My problem is how we have our pants down and held to ransom with incomings, usually record signings, they're awful - but likewise with us regards Mahrez they're just trying to get the best deal, the fact our recent record signings are never in a million years near the region we've paid for them however is what i'm getting at. That said i'd pay over the odds for Sigurdsson.
Ric Flair Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Just now, Matt said: My problem isn't necesserilly our outgoings, barr Kante but we draw a line under that. My problem is how we have our pants down and held to ransom with incomings, usually record signings, they're awful - but likewise with us regards Mahrez they're just trying to get the best deal, the fact our recent record signings are never in a million years near the region we've paid for them however is what i'm getting at. That said i'd pay over the odds for Sigurdsson. Sadly that's the way it is now, it's a sellers market to English teams.
Richmondfox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 1 hour ago, nnfox said: This exactly. Everyone knows he wants to leave. We have tried to take a strong stance with the 50m price tag. By putting a price tag on him, we have put him up for sale, I honestly think there is no appetite to keep him (but who knows what goes on behind the scenes). He will go for 35m if there is no bidding war. He just won't be sold. He has a price given by the club, the club aren't desperate for the money and he has a long contract. If a club wants him they can buy now for the correct fee, if not he stays and works hard and gets sold for silly money in Jan. The comments about terms being agreed is a power move by his agents to make the club look like bad guys not letting him go.
surrifox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 27 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: No we don't though. Give me some examples of this? People think because Kante had a release clause and we had to sell him for way less than he's worth and nearly did the same with Vardy that we're weak negotiators. How about the obscene fee we obtained for Schlupp? Our refusal to let Ulloa go to a rival even for a decent fee. We've made money on Hernandez and Zieler who were both muck. Weve said we want £50 million, how is that conducting a fire sale? That's true and it's important to remember there's a way to go in this Window before business is finished and that a lot of what is being touted is paper talk but the fact remains that if (and this requires suspension of disbelief) Spurs had won the title with Mahrez they would be looking for something north of £60 mill and would not be talked down to something like half of that and everyone would know they were serious
katieakita Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 Mediaset whoever they are, according to Sky claim that a £40 million deal has been agreed which is more believable not that I think Roma are likely to pay that sort of figure for him but we will see. When are we off to HK?
foxes21 Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 If he does stay we should sign a couple promising wingers maybe from Ligue 1 or Belgium & chuck them in the u23s for a year. If they perform to a high level, then we'll already have our Mahrez replacement ready for next summer. I don't think you can replace a star player like Mahrez, but we can build a talent up to be as good as him imo.
mozartfox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 27 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: No we don't though. Give me some examples of this? People think because Kante had a release clause and we had to sell him for way less than he's worth and nearly did the same with Vardy that we're weak negotiators. How about the obscene fee we obtained for Schlupp? Our refusal to let Ulloa go to a rival even for a decent fee. We've made money on Hernandez and Zieler who were both muck. Weve said we want £50 million, how is that conducting a fire sale? A response to your question is best left until the window closes. May be you turn out to be correct and recoup Millions upon Millions. BTW in my opinion Liam Moore for 1m was not good business.
Gerard Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 2 hours ago, mozartfox said: Great to read in the Sun that he has agreed terms with Roma. Just the fee to go. It's a bit like me deciding what colour I'm going to paint your living room when I move into your house after I've offered you 40% of the asking price.
Gerard Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 29 minutes ago, Richmondfox said: He just won't be sold. He has a price given by the club, the club aren't desperate for the money and he has a long contract. If a club wants him they can buy now for the correct fee, if not he stays and works hard and gets sold for silly money in Jan. The comments about terms being agreed is a power move by his agents to make the club look like bad guys not letting him go. Exactly, great post. The power is all with the club. We don't need the money and Mahrez has three years left on his contract. We're perfectly within our rights to not do a deal that isn't favourable to us. If Mahrez gets a mardy on because he wasn't sold at some point he'll realise that he has to start playing at top level again to get his move or rot away here for the next three years. We can afford to play hardball but Mahrez can't.
surrifox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 8 minutes ago, Gerard said: It's a bit like me deciding what colour I'm going to paint your living room when I move into your house after I've offered you 40% of the asking price. Elegant analogy
1972 Fox Posted 16 July 2017 Posted 16 July 2017 It's neck and neck at 161 RM to 161 KI and we're nowhere near the final furlong yet! At least the RM thread has some decent debate on it which is the opposite to the KI thread.
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