splinterdream Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 I think we have worried about upsetting the harmony of the dressing room far too much, at the end of last season someone should have sat Wes down and told him we'd be bringing someone in and he won't get as much game time. I know we're on the outside but there never seems a plan
Filberts Treat Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 Just as long as the owners supply the odd free beer/scarf/hat/doughnut/flag the supporters won't criticise. I feel they aren't doing enough. We need the expansion of the ground massively. I'm afraid we have to capitalise on day trippers now more then ever having recently won the league. The club should be generating thousands towards the City's tourism trade. And the council should be helping to push any plans through.
Stadt Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 We've spent the 4th or 5th highest net amount on transfers, I think. The reality is Arsenal and Barcelona have found it difficult to get their targets in so it's even more difficult for us which isn't even the owners' fault.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 1 hour ago, DatfoxesKid23 said: they are ambitious Shakespeare said we are after a defender. chill. Our main midfielder was injured and your questioning the owners ambition they took us to the prem when 8 years ago we'd be with the likes of cardiff and don't ask about we were before our owners http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/7923219.stm Cardiff City will go up this season. Looking very potent all over the pitch and Colin is an experienced manager. Tan, the owner, is a tw@t but he is ambitious. Has quietened down since he got burned in the PL but learned his lesson.
sylofox Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 I love this shite moan moan moan. We had a named manager who spent shite loads before. We nearly lost our team. Did we not prove two years ago its not all about money.
foxinsocks Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 1 hour ago, davieG said: Everton with Sigurdsson, Rooney and Keene losing 2-0 to Chelsea. Sigurdsson preferred Everton over us because they have a much stronger PL pedigree nothing to do with money. hope we finish above them
Monsell1976 Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 43 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: The trouble with the window after winning the league was,, we won the league. We were the best team in the country and to get better players in we would have had to offer them first team football which meant we would have had to get rid of players. I think we still have that same problem as most of these players are fans favourites and heroes to many. "Wes, you've just won the league, now eff off back to Nottingham" never going to happen. Who would you have got rid of? Quite a few commentators touched on the idea that after a title win, a few players should have gone, to freshen up, etc, to prevent a hangover, tend to agree, these players were mediocre before the title win, and in hindsight, we should have cashed in. Lets be honest, Morgan, drinkwater, and other were slated on here in the great escape season, as not being good enough, and after a fluke season, people say their performance's have dropped off, I think they have just returned to what they are, the title season the stars aligned, they all peak at the same time, fate was in our side, whatever it was, most will not find them levels again. The likes of Morgan, should have been moved to the bench last season, he is coming to the end of his career, and a replacement should be in place, to take over, maguire is in now, but then you have huth, same senario. No matter who has stayed or came in, the amount the club have spent, we should have a team who can play a bit, and be able to retain a ball, and not just hoof it, can't hide from it, some need moving on, including those who were around the tittle year, and better footballers bringing in.
Sir Shep Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 The brutal truth is that we are not at the top of the football food chain, on Maguires recent performances it's pretty fair to say that there'll be a bigger club in for him and if it offers more than we can, like European football, then he's going to want to go. This isnt down to lack of ambition on the owners behalf, its football all over the world. We are playing football in the best league in the world, the owners worked tirelessly getting us here and we are more than holding our own. It's a great time to be a Leicester fan
Stadt Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 49 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Cardiff City will go up this season. Looking very potent all over the pitch and Colin is an experienced manager. Tan, the owner, is a tw@t but he is ambitious. Has quietened down since he got burned in the PL but learned his lesson. What are you Welsh or something, Cadno'r Cymoedd?
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 1 minute ago, Wookie said: What are you Welsh or something, Cadno'r Cymoedd? Yep.
Stadt Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 2 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Yep. I was joking Your username is the most Welsh thing I've ever seen
Monsell1976 Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 32 minutes ago, sylofox said: I love this shite moan moan moan. We had a named manager who spent shite loads before. We nearly lost our team. Did we not prove two years ago its not all about money. It's not about money, it's about we are spending the money, but the quality of recruitment has been poor, and some of those from the title winning season are in decline, we need to improve the quality of the squad, and not spend a fortune on fee's and contracts to players who don't improve us. The recruitment since the title win has been woeful, but when we get the 3 new signings on the field together, it might improve.
Tuna Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/9309740/sky-bet-championship-leicester-citys-owner-targets-top-five-finish-in-premier-league https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/02/leicester-city-win-the-premier-league-title-after-fairytale-season Close thread.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 4 minutes ago, Wookie said: I was joking Your username is the most Welsh thing I've ever seen Valleys Fox.
Livid Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 I have no doubt they are ambitious but I think some mistakes have been/continue to be made. Our transfer activity has been generally poor since winning the league. We've bought in player's with a lot of potential who just don't seem to be up to the PL. I like Slim, but my God we had our pants pulled down to be paying £30 million for a striker who needs that extra touch if he gets a chance with his feet. We bid £40 million for Siggurdson, yes I know he was never coming, but we don't seem to have any other options. Was that it then? Have we thrown in the towel? Due to the lack of a bonus structure in the PL winning season we seemed to reward everyone with brand new contracts. I get why but in hindsight I'm not sure it was the best idea. We've shown a bit too much loyalty to what in the cold light of day are a group of individuals who will want away should an offer of something bigger and better paid come along. We seem to buy players who at best are riding the bench. I've no idea why we bought Hull's No.1 for Hamer to take his spot. Iborra I don't know, but I have a niggling feeling he will turn out to be Inler Mk2. Iheanacho has the talent but unless we get someone creative in Midfield he will be wasted here, the thought of him having to drop deep and defend like Shinji does at times just saddens me. Everyone goes on about a RB or a CB but we have competent players in those positions, we don't have a ball retaining creative midfielder. To me Drinkwater has only shone when alongside Cambiasso and Kante. Our owners have undoubted ambition but I'm beginning to doubt those advising them or trying to put the plan into action are up to the job.
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 1 hour ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Cardiff City will go up this season. Looking very potent all over the pitch and Colin is an experienced manager. Tan, the owner, is a tw@t but he is ambitious. Has quietened down since he got burned in the PL but learned his lesson. bit too early to say but I like the look of them
davieG Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 If the question 're ambitions is because of our transfers then the answer is we don't know so much of the speculation is unfounded and plenty of it never sees the light of day. As for the PL winning transfer window those purchases or none purchases would have all been over seen by Walsh he who can do no wrong but is obviously not as perfect as many think. In reality despite our PL win we are not an attractive club for the level of player we need to attain and maintain a top 6 position. You can't turn Poundland into Harrods by stocking a few quality products and more important quality product companies wouldn't want their goods to be seen in Poundland.
Babylon Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 41 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: It's not about money, it's about we are spending the money, but the quality of recruitment has been poor, and some of those from the title winning season are in decline, we need to improve the quality of the squad, and not spend a fortune on fee's and contracts to players who don't improve us. The recruitment since the title win has been woeful, but when we get the 3 new signings on the field together, it might improve. The recruitment isn't down to the owners, they just set the budgets. The fact is we've spent decent money, not too 6 money, but top 8 sort of cash.
filthyfox Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 3 hours ago, weller54 said: If Vardy, DD and Mahrez go... We'll be relegated! Absolutely 100 percent agree.... or we will be next season when Kasper goes and our defence all need zimmer frames.
Babylon Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 1 hour ago, Filberts Treat said: Just as long as the owners supply the odd free beer/scarf/hat/doughnut/flag the supporters won't criticise. I feel they aren't doing enough. We need the expansion of the ground massively. I'm afraid we have to capitalise on day trippers now more then ever having recently won the league. The club should be generating thousands towards the City's tourism trade. And the council should be helping to push any plans through. We're going to expand, it doesn't happen over night.
Monsell1976 Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 9 minutes ago, Babylon said: The recruitment isn't down to the owners, they just set the budgets. The fact is we've spent decent money, not too 6 money, but top 8 sort of cash. I'm not having a go at the owners, im defending them, they employ football people to do that, I'm having a go at the people who are agreeing the deals. Some of the wages we are paying, we could have better, not on about mahrez or kasper, but I should imagine ullua is on a fair amount, and players like him taking up a wage bill, that could be used elsewhere. I personally think a change in our recruitment departments is needed, as the owners, club, and supporters, are not getting value for money. Just don't get the millions of pounds spent in wages, and fees, and then play the side that won the league, if they aren't good enough why sign them on £££££ a week.
Koke Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 The recruitment has been shoddy. 2016 signings Mendy Musa Slimani Hernandez Amartey (January) Gray (January) Kapustka Zieler Thats £78m right there. None of them are starters. Some are already gone, some are rumoured to go, and some can't get into the starting eleven. £78m right down the drain. Really hope we do the right things this week but the fans and the recruitment team are seemingly not on the same wavelength.
Mr Weller Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 We are only where we are because of the owners. We can survive losing any player but not the owners. We have witnessed by far the best team in our history and spent more than all but a handful of clubs. It is silly to complain about their lack of ambition
ramadaone Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 4 hours ago, the messenger said: Rumoured all summer Vardy to Everton. DD to Chelsea. Mahrez to ? I would not be surprised to see all 3 go and who could blame them because our owners lack real ambition to match the spending power of the likes of Everton and others. Failure to land Gibson/Evans because we miles apart on the fee. Giving Ulloa a contract extension and letting go of Slimani WTF? Failure to look for a right back. Failure to land Sigurdsson and I suspect this is lack of a "named manager" and ambition. Midfield needs seriously strengthening not one of our midfielders can control a game for sustained periods especially against top 7 sides. Are problems are our unwillingness to pay the market price for players I can only see us ever being mid-table, but if Vardy DD and Mahrez go I think we will struggle bottom half. There is some utter tripe on FT and that post is right up there so well done
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