Corky Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 2 hours ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Proves to me Ranieri wasn’t the problem He was a problem but, as was said around the time of his sacking, it is only realistic to sack one man instead of 15/16 players. The issues run deeper than the manager but unfortunately we'll probably need to find another one to see if things improve. A clear-out or change of playing style is desperately needed.
vanity Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 3 hours ago, shade said: What happened to the team that played those first few games under shakespeare? High intensity, pressing from the front, chasing, quick passing football; how did we regress to a side that can’t pass or create a chance? First, we had Drinkwater. Now we have King, who seems a good squad player, but he lacks Drinkwater's engine and defensive ability, as his game is more AM than DM in a 2. Second, we have had a significant formation shift sweep the league. We are seeing 3 in the back quite a bit, with formations like Chelsea's 3-4-3 very much in vogue, to the extent even Wenger has had a go at 3 in the back. Our midfield is outnumbered most every game, and even when it isn't, Ndidi is doing so much he is exhausted by halftime, as King bless him cannot work a similar defensive shift. Just isn't his game. So in the end, we are playing a 2-man midfield (including a player we would not play as a DM barring injury) against at least 3 MF most games. Even if we had Drinkwater still, even if we had both him AND Silva, AND if James were healthy, we would probably need to start looking to move to a formation where we are not numerically overwhelmed in the middle. At this point, we have to get Iborra into the game alongside Ndidi and King. There is just no other option. We need more players in the middle to not just defend, but to link our play. It is no bloody use having this attacking talent up top if they never see the ball. If we had Matty James healthy, I would take a long look at a 4-3-3, with Chilwell and Albrighton bombing up the wings, and Iborra as a deep-lying 6 who initiates the attack form the back. We could play Gray or Mahrezbehind Iheanacho and Vardy/Slim, or even go all-pace with Vardy, Nacho, and Musa up top. FFS, if we even still had Mendy, we might be able to do a credible job of that. We have pieces on the roster to play a lot of different formations, and to do so well, it is just we are crippled in the MF at the moment. So we probably need to look at a 3-5-2, though with our problems in the MF, I hate having 2 at the top, we need another MF in the back much more than another fwd who never sees the ball.
BenTheFox Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 2 hours ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Proves to me Ranieri wasn’t the problem He was definitely part of the problem. At least the players don't look as confused and disorganised as they did in the last few months under Ranieri.
Master Fox Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 We haven't signed a single decent player since winning the league. That's the problem.
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 3 hours ago, Shanghai said: You don’t play your own Messi you criticized him and you thought gray is better ! He needs love and more balls I mean 80%of the balls then you are at the top now you look desgresful and so so bad ! Leicester doesn’t deserve the premier league right now have you see mahrez in the past few matches if you did you would never call him messi
Bazly Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 That era has run its course. A new start needed with a new formation and then see which players have the skill, desire and ability to adapt or leave.
Guest ttfn Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 We were very fortunate in at least 2 of the 5 games in the 5 game winning run (also worth noting that 4 of them were at home). West Ham battered us in the second half and it was only an astonishing display of goalkeeping from Schmeichel that got us over the line. Likewise the Sunderland game we were really lucky to win, dreadful and second best against comfortably the worst side in the league until Albrighton came on.
Koke Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 2 hours ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Proves to me Ranieri wasn’t the problem He definitely was A problem. Let me refresh your memory of some of utter debacles under him last season. Southampton away (0-3) played a diamond and admitted afterwards he basically didn't know what he was doing. Boro away (0-0) parked the bus against fvcking Boro. Millwall away (say no more). Swansew away, United at home. Endless list. As bad as we are now under Shakespeare at least we look organised and the players are putting a shift in.
Guest TaggertvsWise Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 2 hours ago, David Hankey said: Slimani can be key, I don't think so. You could give him a key to a door and 10 hours later he'd still be trying to get in!! Feed feels like you are scrabbling around trying to find the right time to unleash an hilarious analogy that has floored us all with its calculated wit but ultimately has hit wide of the mark as it is plain wrong. Slimani has has the ability to lead our line instead of Vardy. He certainly should not be written off if we continue to draw blanks like today.
ZeGuy Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 39 minutes ago, Koke said: He definitely was A problem. Let me refresh your memory of some of utter debacles under him last season. Southampton away (0-3) played a diamond and admitted afterwards he basically didn't know what he was doing. Boro away (0-0) parked the bus against fvcking Boro. Millwall away (say no more). Swansew away, United at home. Endless list. As bad as we are now under Shakespeare at least we look organised and the players are putting a shift in. Good god. Worst game I've seen in his era. Swansea and then Millwall sealed his fate. Shakey's first warning was today. I call it, two games more like today and he's out.
Bryn Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 Schmeichel - off form, he's always had brief dips like this. Simpson - Is what he is. Morgan - Getting on Fuchs - Getting on Mahrez - Lost his desire and doesn't really anyone to take the creative responsibility away from him Drinkwater - ****ed off Ndidi - Looks jaded to me ALbrighton - Probably just a bit shit Okazaki - Probably the only one in reasonable form Vardy - No supply Manager - Kwiksave In a nutshell.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 1 hour ago, Wymeswold fox said: Glad he's doing well at Nantes. Proving he is a good manager because let’s be frank the Nantes players are no better than mid table at very very best
Captain... Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 3 hours ago, The Doctor said: Bollocks - 9 of 11 today were in the title winning season, 8 of them were signed by Nigel or Sven (I.e. before ranieri). The problem is we've got a manager with no tactical intelligence or motivational ability. That is exactly the problem we have signed how many players since we won the league? How many have made a positive impact? Ndidi was ok last season but has been gash this season, James has been our best midfielder this season. Maguire has been a decent addition but the rest of our recruitment has so far been ineffective.
Monsell1976 Posted 30 September 2017 Posted 30 September 2017 Lack of ambition and game plan from the current management is a big part. They had a dire to prove to the press and those calling them snakes, that it was Claudio fault they played poor, and with a coach who isn't dropping them, and their places are nailed on, no matter what, they are complacent in there performances. All the above put together, for me suggests unless drastic changes happen, they will keep hiding, and going to the press with the same feeble excuses, and promises, and then still fail to deliver.
Parafox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 8 hours ago, Captain... said: We have no midfield. Lost Kante (before Shakespeare took over) lost Danny Benchwarmer who was a midfield marshall. Now we have no one with any command in midfield. We're a ship without a rudder and sadly Wes isn't all that great a presence on the field.
ozleicester Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 I will say it again.. it may have been a marketing tool, but the reason* we won the league was.... we were #fearless under Ranieri, now we stumble around, panic, hoof and generally sh1t ourselves. *obviously it also required the players, club, owners etc etc.
Parafox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 3 minutes ago, ozleicester said: I will say it again.. it may have been a marketing tool, but the reason* we won the league was.... we were #fearless under Ranieri, now we stumble around, panic, hoof and generally sh1t ourselves. *obviously it also required the players, club, owners etc etc. So do you think, as I do, that now they have got what they wanted, a Premier League English team in Asia, (winning the title as well), that now they aren't really bothered any more? The Thai's achieved their ambition and they will market their product on that success for as long as it takes to find another goldmine to exploit and then move on. Anyone who thinks the Thai's are in this for the sake of LCFC are deluded. Let's take it while we can, the glory and history of winning the PL. For the fans it's been everything we could have ever wished for and more. For the Thai's it's all about making money and when that dries up, and it will, with our poor record since the PL title, they'll move on and LCFC will be cut adrift.
ozleicester Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 1 minute ago, Parafox said: So do you think, as I do, that now they have got what they wanted, a Premier League English team in Asia, (winning the title as well), that now they aren't really bothered any more? The Thai's achieved their ambition and they will market their product on that success for as long as it takes to find another goldmine to exploit and then move on. Anyone who thinks the Thai's are in this for the sake of LCFC are deluded. Let's take it while we can, the glory and history of winning the PL. For the fans it's been everything we could have ever wished for and more. For the Thai's it's all about making money and when that dries up, and it will, with our poor record since the PL title, they'll move on and LCFC will be cut adrift. No i dont agree with that. Of course the owners are looking to profit, thats the way all of them are now, but i dont believe they have finished. For me out problem is fear and players and managers who cannot manage it, tactics and ideas need to progress and we have done neither.
Shanghai Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 7 hours ago, DatfoxesKid23 said: have you see mahrez in the past few matches if you did you would never call him messi I am saying 70 mn and no a single chance has been created ( it’s a shame ) he is in , the game changed become a game between two teams ! Give him the ball don’t ask him to defend let gray defend he is fresh ! A team who couldn’t pick the ball pass and keep it for over a minute ? That’s what we call football
Koke Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 We must be the worst footballing side in the Premier League.
Guest Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 4 hours ago, Parafox said: So do you think, as I do, that now they have got what they wanted, a Premier League English team in Asia, (winning the title as well), that now they aren't really bothered any more? The Thai's achieved their ambition and they will market their product on that success for as long as it takes to find another goldmine to exploit and then move on. Anyone who thinks the Thai's are in this for the sake of LCFC are deluded. Let's take it while we can, the glory and history of winning the PL. For the fans it's been everything we could have ever wished for and more. For the Thai's it's all about making money and when that dries up, and it will, with our poor record since the PL title, they'll move on and LCFC will be cut adrift. Even if they were happy with just having premier league club for the sake of marketing benefits, it would almost certainly have to be a solid mid-table team. There's little use in having a Premier league side that is relegation fodder. They may have little desire to risk the massive investment necessary to make us challenge for a top 6 spot, but I don't see them being either bored or disinterested to the point of letting us drift off into obscurity. Either as a hobby or a business venture, it makes sense to do whatever it takes to solidly stake our claim higher up the table (7-12th).
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 10 hours ago, Koke said: He definitely was A problem. Let me refresh your memory of some of utter debacles under him last season. Southampton away (0-3) played a diamond and admitted afterwards he basically didn't know what he was doing. Boro away (0-0) parked the bus against fvcking Boro. Millwall away (say no more). Swansew away, United at home. Endless list. As bad as we are now under Shakespeare at least we look organised and the players are putting a shift in. Were you at the game yesterday?? Players definitely weren't that organised and first half in particular not many were putting a shift in
foxinsox Posted 1 October 2017 Posted 1 October 2017 12 minutes ago, Koke said: We must be the worst footballing side in the Premier League. Crap as we are, we are not Palace! Second worst side in the PL possibly...
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