Bert Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 51 minutes ago, Fox92 said: He isn't better than Stones. I like Maguire but we've conceded goals that have been his fault. Morgan gets pulled up a lot on here yet everyone seems to gloss over Maguire. He's not good enough for a side pushing for titles and European trophies. Morgan has outperformed Maguire this season but it's cool to over rate young English centre halves who are decent on the ball. 2
narboroughblue Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 (edited) Pep made a bee line for him after the cup game a few weeks back and I wondered then if there would be interest. If we could get big money and sign someone like Gibson for less it might not be the worst bit of business. Saying that I’d like to keep him if silly money isn’t offered. Edited 7 January 2018 by narboroughblue
Guest Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 8 hours ago, Gerard said: I'd sell at that price. A bit flaky defensively and probably overrated because he's good on the ball. 8 hours ago, tsintskaro said: same 8 hours ago, Wookie said: Too immobile for a Pep and he's poor one on one, Martinez would be a better fit and significantly cheaper. Good news for us. 1 hour ago, Ricey said: He’s far from being good enough for that level yet. You guys clearly know nothing about football and defenders in particular. No player is perfect and a defender gets exposed with every small mistake unlike a midfielder or attacker. Maguire is sheer class and destined to be a top England defender for the next decade, yet you put him down all the time. It's more important we keep him than Mahrez.
Guest Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 12 minutes ago, Bert said: Morgan has outperformed Maguire this season but it's cool to over rate young English centre halves who are decent on the ball. No he hasn't.
Bert Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 Just now, FIF said: No he hasn't. Defensively, yes he has. 3
Guest Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 1 minute ago, Bert said: Defensively, yes he has. No he hasn't.
Popular Post Bert Posted 7 January 2018 Popular Post Posted 7 January 2018 Just now, FIF said: No he hasn't. Well that's your opinion so you're entitled to it. I don't agree. Maguire is massively over rated by a lot of our fans. I'm not saying he isn't good, and given a couple more years he certainly will be very good. But right now, he's not at the level at lot of our fans think he is. 7 1
Ricey Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FIF said: You guys clearly know nothing about football and defenders in particular. No player is perfect and a defender gets exposed with every small mistake unlike a midfielder or attacker. Maguire is sheer class and destined to be a top England defender for the next decade, yet you put him down all the time. It's more important we keep him than Mahrez. He may become sheer class, but he is not now. You can not be a "class" central defender if you make so many mistakes during a game that lead to goals. Morgan on the other hand is comfortably outperforming him this season. Edited 7 January 2018 by Ricey
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 1 minute ago, Bert said: Well that's your opinion so you're entitled to it. I don't agree. Maguire is massively over rated by a lot of our fans. I'm not saying he isn't good, and given a couple more years he certainly will be very good. But right now, he's not at the level at lot of our fans think he is. Agree with this, Morgan has been a better defender this year. Age plays a massive role in how players are judged, same with Ndidi. I think Maguire will be a serious defender but hes got loads to improve upon.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 1 minute ago, Ricey said: He may become sheer class, but he is not now. You can not be a "class" central defender if you make so many mistakes during a game that lead to goals. Morgan on the other hand is comfortably outperforming him this season. Goal against Liverpool where Salah rolls him is very basic defending in my opinion. Same with the second at Watford, and Huddersfield. Cost us plenty of goals this year.
pazzerfox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bert said: Well that's your opinion so you're entitled to it. I don't agree. Maguire is massively over rated by a lot of our fans. I'm not saying he isn't good, and given a couple more years he certainly will be very good. But right now, he's not at the level at lot of our fans think he is. I agree Bert. Definsively he can be very naive at times. Don't get me wrong, he is a real prospect and COULD be a very good player in the future. He is only recognised more thn Morgan at the momet because of his forays into midfiled and occasional crossfield pass. Edited 7 January 2018 by pazzerfox
lee7 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 9 hours ago, HankMarvin said: GIFT OF MAG Manchester City want Harry Maguire from Leicester and are ready to make incredible £50m bid English centre-back has been extremely impressive for Foxes following summer move from Hull EXCLUSIVE By Alan Nixon HARRY MAGUIRE has played his way on to Pep Guardiola’s wanted list at Manchester City. Leicester’s classy centre-half could be on his way to the Etihad in this month’s window after emerging as a new option in City’s chase for another defender. Guardiola has been impressed by Maguire’s displays since joining from Hull for £17million in the summer and could offer around £50m for him. City’s chief even gave the England defender, 24, a hug in admiration after the Carabao Cup quarter-final last month, which Manchester City won 4-3 on penalties. Guardiola has been linked with West Brom skipper Jonny Evans, Real Sociedad’s Inigo Martinez and Lyon star Mouctar Diakhaby. He ideally wants a centre-half who is eligible to play in the Champions League, with City facing Basel in the last 16 next month. The Foxes will fight to keep him, but Maguire would jump at the chance of a move to the big time after his remarkable rise for club and country. City are currently pricing up their targets. They bid £24m for Evans, 30, in the summer but will have to go higher. Martinez, 26, is a fixed fee at £29m and Lyon would want £40m for Diakhaby, 21. Maguire would be the most expensive option, but City were happy to splash out £47.5m for John Stones in August 2016 . https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5284364/harry-maguire-manchester-city-leicester-50m-bid/ Not a chance in January! I think whatever happens Maguire will be here next season unless we receive a silly offer for him. 50 million is too cheap aswell he's at the very least on a par with Van Dijk.
Old Fox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 10 minutes ago, FIF said: You guys clearly know nothing about football and defenders in particular. No player is perfect and a defender gets exposed with every small mistake unlike a midfielder or attacker. Maguire is sheer class and destined to be a top England defender for the next decade, yet you put him down all the time. It's more important we keep him than Mahrez. All about opinions but Imo there is no comparison - creativity and goal scoring is harder to find (look how poor Musa, Siimani and Ian are for in excess of £70m). We are 7th to 9th best in the division because we have a Mahrez - he is a game changer like no other we have ever had - if we can keep him we should at all cost. Harry is a talent and to show ambition we should keep both BUT he is much much easier to replace and anyone who believes differently knows nothing about football - fact.
ARM1968 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 If he goes to Man City this window i’ll Eat dog food until my birthday in June. Not a fuching chance. Fake news. Made up bollox.
Guest Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 14 minutes ago, Bert said: Well that's your opinion so you're entitled to it. I don't agree. Maguire is massively over rated by a lot of our fans. I'm not saying he isn't good, and given a couple more years he certainly will be very good. But right now, he's not at the level at lot of our fans think he is. 12 minutes ago, Ricey said: He may become sheer class, but he is not now. You can not be a "class" central defender if you make so many mistakes during a game that lead to goals. Morgan on the other hand is comfortably outperforming him this season. 10 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Agree with this, Morgan has been a better defender this year. Age plays a massive role in how players are judged, same with Ndidi. I think Maguire will be a serious defender but hes got loads to improve upon. 9 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Goal against Liverpool where Salah rolls him is very basic defending in my opinion. Same with the second at Watford, and Huddersfield. Cost us plenty of goals this year. 8 minutes ago, pazzerfox said: I agree Bert. Definsively he can be very naive at times. Don't get me wrong, he is a real prospect and COULD be a very good player in the future. He is only recognised more thn Morgan at the momet because of his forays into midfiled and occasional crossfield pass. Clearly my opinion is in the minority. If people can't point to how many times Morgan has been beaten (and he has been very good this year) too then they have defender blindness. Of course when he is beaten there is always Maguire to help him out and prevent the goal. when Maguire is beaten, there is Morgan to help him out - so it looks worse. Maguire, in my opinion, is a keeper for life. He's in the Cross/Walsh/Elliot grouping. Morgan could be in that grouping too but that's not a negative for Maguire.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 3 minutes ago, FIF said: Clearly my opinion is in the minority. If people can't point to how many times Morgan has been beaten (and he has been very good this year) too then they have defender blindness. Of course when he is beaten there is always Maguire to help him out and prevent the goal. when Maguire is beaten, there is Morgan to help him out - so it looks worse. Maguire, in my opinion, is a keeper for life. He's in the Cross/Walsh/Elliot grouping. Morgan could be in that grouping too but that's not a negative for Maguire. Not saying hes not a good player, merely pointing out theres clearly areas for improvement to be a top player.
foxfanazer Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 Some of our fans don’t deserve to have good players. Moan about players like Musa and Amartey and then we get someone with the ability of Maguire and he’s overrated. That’s fine, sell him and see who we get as his replacement
Claridge Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 50 million for someone who coughs a goal up every other match. Runs forward with it and has no idea or final product. A good threat at attacking corners but piss poor at opposition ones. Snap their hands off 1
Happy Fox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 £50m would be hard to turn down, I would back us to bring in a decent replacement, I like Maguire he has great potential, but with that money we could reinvest it wisely
fuchsntf Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 43 minutes ago, Bert said: Well that's your opinion so you're entitled to it. I don't agree. Maguire is massively over rated by a lot of our fans. I'm not saying he isn't good, and given a couple more years he certainly will be very good. But right now, he's not at the level at lot of our fans think he is. Hes at the level, I expected, I dont overrate him...But I want to keep him. Like @fif mentions, hes going to make Mistakes, like ANY other defender. Though Morgan is having a top season, Maguire is a better CB. Our defensive woes come or stemm from our inconsequent midfield, The back four, are too often too long under pressure, when the front 5 are not pressing or holding the ball. Its a point imo, that proves how good they the defence with front 5 Poor lay-offs, their own slip ups have been.Simpson has cleared up many a CB, poor postitioning, But those holes created, by loose midfield defending....Ndidi even in his good games, is to often behind his forward moving opponent......I dont expect immediate improvement, but if Puel plays and 3 from four midfielders of James/Ndidi/Silva/Iborra, with Ndidi bring the mainstay, we can Still push and compete for top 6-7. And secure 8th. Harry ..and A.N.Others performances are key to realise the above, We over Analyse our own players mistakes, while forgetting its worthwile noticing how many Mistakes /blunders top defenders through Europe actually are commiting, then being told they are having good games....If Vardy scores ! But misses 3, has a good game, nobody says anything... But woe if a defender makes 2 slip ups, under more pressure. I dont always agree with @fif , d oesnt mean I am always right, but on this..OTT analyse on Individual defensive Hiccups compared to their alround good defending.....@fif Imo, is spot on... 2
MPH Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Wookie said: Too immobile for a Pep and he's poor one on one, Martinez would be a better fit and significantly cheaper. Good news for us. Too immobile? did you not see him galloping up the wing couple games back!?! Ormandroyd would of been proud. Edited 7 January 2018 by MPH 1
sheffield_fox Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 We've only had him 4 months. What's the point?
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 7 January 2018 Posted 7 January 2018 Doubt very highly there’s any truth in this. Man City will go for either Laporte or that Martinez. 1
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